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  For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-06 15:33 -0700
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-06 21:19 -0700
      Starmaker, How is Windows 95 working out for you ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 02:32 -0800
        Re: Starmaker, How is Windows 95 working out for you ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 10:32 -0800
          Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 14:22 -0800
            Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-07 17:00 -0600
              Why ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 15:19 -0800
                Re: Why ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-07 19:20 -0600
            Re: Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 15:57 -0800
              Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-11-07 18:47 -0700
                Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 20:34 -0800
      Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-07 08:15 -0500
        Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 10:39 -0800
          Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-07 14:50 -0500
            Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-07 13:54 -0600
      Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 10:42 -0800
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 14:11 -0800
      Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-07 19:49 -0500
        Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 16:57 -0800
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 21:32 -0800
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 10:40 -0800
      Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-09 14:45 -0800
        Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 16:59 -0600
          Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dick_Holder <dick_holder@man.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:09 +0000
            Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dick_Holder <dick_holder@man.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:12 +0000
            Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 08:14 -0800
          Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-09 15:14 -0800
          Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 08:12 -0800
        Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 08:04 -0800
          Christianity refined prior religions. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 17:59 -0800
            Re: Christianity refined prior religions. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 20:26 -0600
              ClutterFreak worships a narcissistic deadbeat ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 18:47 -0800
                Re: ClutterFreak worships a narcissistic deadbeat ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 21:22 -0600
                  English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 19:36 -0800
                    Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 22:50 -0800
                      Asians are (literally) hit the hardest. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 23:19 -0800
                        Re: Asians are (literally) hit the hardest. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-12 10:52 -0600
                      Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 08:52 -0800
                        Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 11:13 -0800
                          Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 11:19 -0800
                            Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 11:50 -0800
                              Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 12:04 -0800
                                Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:42 -0800
                                  Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 16:55 -0800

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On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 3:33:55 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ): 
> > > [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ] 
> > 
> > [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ] 
> 
> Few agree on who/what "God" might be. 
> 
> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> others would (violently) disagree, of course.

I don't mean to annoy you, but isn't that what Hitler thought too?

https://www.historyonthenet.com/20-hitler-christian-atheist-something-else-richard-weikart

'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed nature was the only true “God.”'

I am not sure what to believe.  

Some people think forests are sentient.

https://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/the-whispering-trees-180968084/

When I was a kid I grew up living next door to a forest so I'd like to think that was true.

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#835388 — Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ): 
> > For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> > others would (violently) disagree, of course.
> 
> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed
>  nature was the only true “God.”'

For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying;
Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

> I am not sure what to believe.  
> Some people think forests are sentient.

Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.

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#835393 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

On 11/9/2021 4:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ):
>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
>>
>> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed
>>   nature was the only true “God.”'
> 
> For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying;
> Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.
> 
>> I am not sure what to believe.
>> Some people think forests are sentient.
> 
> Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.

Does that make an individual tree semi-sentient, or what?

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#835394 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 16:59:07 -0600, whodat, typed
> On 11/9/2021 4:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ):
>>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
>>>
>>> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed
>>>   nature was the only true “God.”'
>> 
>> For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying;
>> Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.
>> 
>>> I am not sure what to believe.
>>> Some people think forests are sentient.
>> 
>> Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.
>
> Does that make an individual tree semi-sentient, or what?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)

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#835395 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 23:09:22 -0000 (UTC), Dick_Holder, typed
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 16:59:07 -0600, whodat, typed
>> On 11/9/2021 4:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>>> You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ):
>>>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>>>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
>>>>
>>>> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed
>>>>   nature was the only true “God.”'
>>> 
>>> For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying;
>>> Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.
>>> 
>>>> I am not sure what to believe.
>>>> Some people think forests are sentient.
>>> 
>>> Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.
>>
>> Does that make an individual tree semi-sentient, or what?
>
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree)
>

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_ (tree)

_( fuck up that link

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#835432 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 3:09:26 PM UTC-8, Dick_Holder wrote:
> On Tue, 9 Nov 2021 16:59:07 -0600, whodat, typed
> > On 11/9/2021 4:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: 
> >> You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ): 
> >>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> >>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course. 
> >>> 
> >>> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed 
> >>> nature was the only true “God.”' 
> >> 
> >> For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying; 
> >> Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. 
> >> 
> >>> I am not sure what to believe. 
> >>> Some people think forests are sentient. 
> >> 
> >> Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion. 
> > 
> > Does that make an individual tree semi-sentient, or what?
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pando_(tree) 

Road trip!
 
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#835397 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

In sci.physics whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> wrote:
> On 11/9/2021 4:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ):
>>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
>>>
>>> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed
>>>   nature was the only true “God.”'
>> 
>> For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying;
>> Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.
>> 
>>> I am not sure what to believe.
>>> Some people think forests are sentient.
>> 
>> Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.
> 
> Does that make an individual tree semi-sentient, or what?

I am Groot.

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#835431 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 2:59:13 PM UTC-8, whodat wrote:
> On 11/9/2021 4:45 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: 
> > You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ): 
> >>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> >>> others would (violently) disagree, of course. 
> >> 
> >> 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed 
> >> nature was the only true “God.”' 
> > 
> > For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying; 
> > Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. 
> > 
> >> I am not sure what to believe. 
> >> Some people think forests are sentient. 
> > 
> > Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.
> Does that make an individual tree semi-sentient, or what?

Hi whodat! 

As I understand it the individual trees communicate via 
networks of symbiotic fungi.

https://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2019/exploring-the-underground-network-of-trees-the-nervous-system-of-the-forest/

Apparently, different species of tree communicate about infections, predators, etc.

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#835430 — Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

On Tuesday, November 9, 2021 at 2:45:53 PM UTC-8, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ):
> > > For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> > > others would (violently) disagree, of course. 
> >
> > 'Adolf Hitler was a pantheist who believed 
> > nature was the only true “God.”'

Hi Jeff,

I hope you are in good health and spirits.

Sorry for bringing up Hitler; it's just that as you may know, one

point of the debate between atheists and Christians is if H was 

a Christian or an atheist, but some people say he was neither.

I am an atheist but wish there were Gods in existence.

> For some, pantheism is empowering, not unifying; 

After reading Greg Bear's THE VISITATION yesterday I was 
wondering if the Trinity is a partial return to pantheism?

> Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa.

You bet

> > I am not sure what to believe. 
> > Some people think forests are sentient.
> Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.

I don't agree your opinion is worthless.  Admittedly, this 
may be confirmation bias because we agree about the
sentience of forests :-))))))))))))))))) 

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#835468 — Christianity refined prior religions.

You (Dhruv) replied ( to me ):
> > > > For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> 
> I am an atheist but wish there were Gods in existence.

Nature is Thee God, not a God.

Nature, the cosmos; nothing more, nothing less.

> After reading Greg Bear's THE VISITATION yesterday I was 
> wondering if the Trinity is a partial return to pantheism?

Christianity refined prior religions.

The best art merely refines prior art.

Joe Biden thinks he's Thee God & we're his subjects;
he preaches _fear_ with great abandon (!)
because every FlyByNight cult needs its Apocalypse.

FlyByNight, fear mongering cult !

Again: The best art refines prior art.
Yet "trust fund babies" ( euphemistically called "communists" )
try their damnedest to _destroy_ prior art.

> > Forests are sentient, in my (worthless) opinion.
> 
> I don't agree your opinion is worthless.

The value of my opinions depends on who you are, obviously.

My opinions are _everything_ ( to me ); 
yet, at the same time, they're _nothing_ ( to others ).

Life everything, yet nothing.

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#835469 — Re: Christianity refined prior religions.

On 11/10/2021 7:59 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
> Thee Trump is Thee God, Thee _everything_ ( to me ); not God.
> 

Good for a Jack Mormon for sure :)





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#835470 — ClutterFreak worships a narcissistic deadbeat ?!

ClutterFreak wrote:
> Thee Trump is Thee God, Thee _everything_ ( to me ); not God.

You worship a narcissistic deadbeat ?!

again:

    Joe Biden thinks he's Thee God & we're his subjects;
    he preaches _fear_ with great abandon (!)
    because every FlyByNight cult needs its Apocalypse.

    FlyByNight, fear mongering cult !

    The best art refines prior art.
    Yet "trust fund babies" ( euphemistically called "communists" )
    try their damnedest to _destroy_ prior art.

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#835471 — Re: ClutterFreak worships a narcissistic deadbeat ?!

On 11/10/2021 8:47 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
> 
> again: Thee Trump is Thee best art refined and I thee "trust fund baby" worship Thee narcissistic 
> Trump like no prior art preaches euphemistically.
> 


Yep. Jack Mormons!

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#835472 — English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.

ClutterFreak wrote:
> again: Thee Trump is Thee best art refined and
> I thee "trust fund baby" worship Thee narcissistic 
> Trump like no prior art preaches euphemistically.  Jack Mormons !

English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.

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#835476 — Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.

On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 3:36:59 AM UTC, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> ClutterFreak wrote: 
> > again: Thee Trump is Thee best art refined and 
> > I thee "trust fund baby" worship Thee narcissistic
> > Trump like no prior art preaches euphemistically. Jack Mormons ! 
> 
> English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.
You don't speak random because your satellites mind control army finds it difficult to suppress and control you. You are an enemy combatant who wants to spread disinformation in order to enslave and destroy non white races. 

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#835477 — Asians are (literally) hit the hardest.

You (Ayaz_Siddiqi) replied ( to me ):
> You are an enemy combatant who wants to spread 
> disinformation in order to enslave and destroy non white races. 

"My" Seattle actively discriminates against Asians & whites;
Asians are (literally) hit the hardest.

This murder victim is from Ecuador but, 
because he's a (small) landlord, he's an honorary Asian:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8aBlMCWcZYI

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#835552 — Re: Asians are (literally) hit the hardest.

On 11/11/2021 1:19 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> 
> 
> I  Jeff  Relf  am  schizophrenic  Seattle actively discriminates against Asians & whites;
> I  am  murder   victim  from  Ecuador  but...  euphemistically honorary  Asian
> 
> 


Either that or your codes've got mixed with your brain language sites. 
At last! :)


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#835489 — Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.

On Wednesday, November 10, 2021 at 10:50:11 PM UTC-8, ayaz.s....@gmail.com wrote:
> On Thursday, November 11, 2021 at 3:36:59 AM UTC, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: 
> > ClutterFreak wrote: 
> > > again: Thee Trump is Thee best art refined and 
> > > I thee "trust fund baby" worship Thee narcissistic 
> > > Trump like no prior art preaches euphemistically. Jack Mormons ! 
> > 
> > English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.
> You don't speak random because your satellites mind control army 
> finds it difficult to suppress and control you. You are an enemy 
> combatant who wants to spread disinformation in order to enslave 
> and destroy non white races.

https://www.deseret.com/1990/8/12/18875927/is-mind-controlled-by-cia-or-schizophrenia

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#835503 — Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.

God is His creation...
He creates and sustains His gravity.

Mitchell Raemsch

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#835506 — Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random.

mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
> God is His creation...

How did God create himself before He existed?

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