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Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-19 12:02 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-19 13:51 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 10:22 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 13:16 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 13:52 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 19:11 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 15:19 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-22 09:53 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-24 11:13 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-15 12:24 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-16 14:53 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 14:35 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 21:54 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-18 11:15 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-18 11:40 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-22 12:19 -0400
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutter Freak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-24 07:27 -0700
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-25 11:30 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-27 10:35 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-03 22:35 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 12:52 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 14:57 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-08 17:25 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 16:52 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-08 19:40 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 20:58 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 00:05 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-08 23:10 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 20:59 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-08 23:44 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 00:08 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 03:42 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 08:59 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 13:25 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 22:15 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-10 10:32 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 09:32 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 10:08 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 12:23 -0600
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:17 -0500
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 12:05 -0600
Everybody who could do something quit in disgust. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-11-07 15:14 -0800
Your Analytics Compartments :-) Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-11-07 15:45 -0800
Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 12:27 -0600
Get "woke", go broke. Jeff-Relf.Me @. - 2021-11-09 15:14 -0800
Re: Get "woke", go broke. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-09 20:05 -0500
Re: Get "woke", go broke. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-11-10 07:46 -0600
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-07 12:05 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <sm981a$4q9$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #835096 |
On 11/5/2021 1:17 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
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One more example for function of Substitution. The adoption of Islam.
Example 14: Adoption of Islam
When it makes sense and offers better options and solutions, you even
change your religion :) If you're MH, that is. Not CH. This is what Iran
did some 1400 years back.
By then, 1400 years ago, the wonderful observation-based religion of
wisdom, kindness, individualism, and long-term scopes that Mithraism
was, had been gradually misused and combined and corrupted into a form
of Zoroastrianism which people found quite cumbersome, silly, and devoid
of real virtues. For instance, the very process of turning on a sacred
fire took one hour of nonsense procedures! The act of wearing a robe
took half an hour of endless nonsense words and pretends. It was still
far better than nothing of course. Especially it was superior to what
European pagans and old Romans believed in. But for the MH it had
started to fall short of what the demand was.
Part of Iran had become Christian and part Jewish of course, yet
majority were Zoroastrians. These older Judaism and Christianity also
had developed their own problems. Jewish practice was too old and
limited to begin with, and remainder of Christianity after suffering CH
modifications had changed much of the original Mithraic nature in it and
had indeed become as limited as Judaism. Iranians felt these facts
dearly and tolerated it for quite some time (attribute of Patience in
MH). But not for ever of course! This is why Islam was created and how
Islam began.
In the southernmost expanses of Iran, far enough from the immediate
powerful Zoroastrian influence and control in central Iran, this
seedling gradually grew among a few MH in there :-)
One may observe and conclude that Islam was so lucky to have occurred
among that part of Iran because Iranians of that region (present "Arabs"
in Arabian Peninsula) have always been known throughout Iran as having
the highest degree of _loyalty_ in their culture. To this day you can
never find a better friend than an Arab friend from those regions. No
matter what hardship you go through, no matter what ups and downs of
life befalls you, if your friend is one of those Arabs, you have a
reliable, selfless help within a hand's reach. Therefore many would say
Islam was lucky for its survival to have started in that region. But I
think the reality is different from it.
I think in reality many many such seedlings began to grow throughout
Iran all over, and for a long period of time also, but all succumbed to
hardship people around exerted on them. Iranians of other areas were no
Arabs of southern Arabian Peninsula :) So when one of these seedlings
began to grow there, right among those Arabs, potential AT LAST found
its way to materialize for a change!
And this potential _materialized_ sweetie, like no other phenomena
you've ever seen in history.
Simply put, as MH noticed its features and potentials, more and more MH
joined in. It was so much the answer to people's need that it almost
exploded in all directions. South and east and west were blocked by
water, so it rapidly found its way north, northeast, and northwest. When
it reached the strongholds and centers of Iranian Zoroastrian government
(only 10 short years after its inception) people were found to be on the
side of the new movement!... It spread throughout with very little wars
or atrocities. The worst wars MH had to wage were all inside those
southernmost areas in the Arabian Peninsula when Islam was still not
fully known and understood by others. The very "loyal" nature of Arabs
worked for the opposition to Islam as well. But where and when it was
understood, MH didn't hesitate to change to Islam on their own and there
were no need for any "war."
Mohammad, confronted with deeply rooted Arab sense of loyalty, had to
even name the god in Islam as "Allah"!... Allah previously was the most
important idol worshiped in mecca, the one with the most adherents among
Arabs, the one Mohammad's own father worshiped! (Abdollah means
worshiper of Allah) So Mohammad correctly destroyed all those idols
together with the Allah, but named the one entity beyond them all, after
that particular idol. When asked "What is the difference between the
idol Allah and your god Allah?" he responded, "The two are one and the
same. All gods are one and the same."
Omar, the caliph in charge when Islam reached sensitive areas of Iran,
was indeed welcomed in. Iranians' dislike of Omar is real and famous not
because he "occupied" Iran, but because this otherwise extremely
intelligent and careful man, did not see to it enough to save the
largest library of science and tech in the world of those times, the
Gondishapur compound. Some section of his armies had burnt it before
Omar arrived and grasped the significance of the loss. In desperation,
when he was asked what to do about it now that it's burnt and gone, his
answer was, "Well.., at least we have Quran left :-("
There were two other similar centers of knowledge in Iran that survived
intact after this disastrous experience at Gondishapur, so it was not a
totally irreversible loss. That's how Indian, Persian, Greek, and
Egyptian MH work survived (but in Arabic language) for centuries later
when Europeans (read "the jews in Europe", the MH, not the CH) began
understanding and using them again.
Omar, one of the brightest example of MH one could think of, literally
the "left hand of Mohammad" ("right hand" being Ali) is hated in Iran
since those times for only this Gondishapur reason!..
Almost the entire population of Iran gladly changed their religions to
Islam, including of course a large number of Christians and Jews. What
remained of these people of other religions were the hardcore factions
among them, those who stuck to theirs no matter what and saw to it that
they were better off staying with what they had. The present jewish and
Christian Iranians are the descendants of those who didn't change
religion 1400 years back.
Both Christianity and Judaism found it easy to coexist with Islam. Islam
in its core had nothing against those practices and in a way has
incorporated them both. But there was a problem with Zoroastrianism.
They could not coexist well with Islam because Islam had equality of
rights as one of its pillars while Zoroastrians condoned classes and
castes. This was a big issue for Zoroastrians who were now surrounded by
Moslems.
After a few short years of tolerating Islamic equal status practices,
many of these Zoroastrians decided to emigrate from Iran. North still
had nothing but basically CH savagery to offer and West were filled with
more Moslems, so they took their journeys east. To India. Their
descendants are today called "Parsi"s of India, and sure enough they're
still Caste practitioners as Hell itself. They took their Caste formulas
with them from Iran and spread it inside India. Something Indians still
suffer from.
Islam was amazing compared to anything that ever was in the form of a
religion. It was advanced, comprehensive, effective, and soothing. The
cure for their many hardships and shortcomings of practices around them.
It lifted the entire region up in spirit and everybody who could do
something well joined in :-) It really "exploded" in every direction
geographically and mentally.
Nothing even remotely comes close to this gigantic change MH took in
their lives, when you study what CH ever did among themselves. The
change to Islam, and the speed with which it took place could only be
managed by MH. And it is a perfect example of the ability to change, a
form of "Substitution", that MH enjoys and CH lacks in comparison.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-11-07 15:14 -0800 |
| Subject | Everybody who could do something quit in disgust. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--3.14pm.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #835233 |
ClutterFreak: > [ Early Islam ] lifted the entire region up in spirit > and everybody who could do something well joined in :-) > > It really "exploded" in every direction > geographically and mentally. Compare that with Joe Biden's (FlyByNight) Apocalypse cult. Global warming ! How dare you ! Covid is killing us all ! Warm, greenhouse gases are only good for plants, not humans ! Everybody who could do something quit in disgust. It really "exploded" in our faces.
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-11-07 15:45 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--3.45pm.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #835233 |
Speaking of Islam, You (ClutterFreak) wrote: > [starting] a fire took an hour of nonsense ! > > The act of wearing a robe took a half hour. Shia (MH) or Sunni (CH) ? You're Shia (MH), I presume. > Zoroastrians condoned classes and castes. Genetically, were they MH (good) or CH (evil) ? Indonesia is CH (evil) ?
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| From | Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2021-11-09 12:27 -0600 |
| Message-ID | <smeej8$l9h$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #835096 |
On 11/5/2021 1:17 PM, Clutterfreak wrote: > My next example for function STRP will be how Iran solved the menace of > Russian Empire :-) Example 3: Problem of Russian Empire. I've discussed this earlier in some other blog or perhaps in this same blog; don't have time to go check. I'll go over it briefly one more time. Romans where a CH superpower when Iran itself was an MH superpower, so no sweats there, we got them and we got those CH maggot brains good. But by the time Russian Empire formed and expanded and became a superpower, a lot had happened to Iran including the Mongol Onslaught which had set the time back for these Iranians; Iran was not a superpower anymore. It severely lacked most of what they had before plus had tried conventional war with Russian Empire and had lost the Caucasus part of Iran to them recently. So this was a new situation that only occurred about 200 years back for Iran. Never before. How do you deal with a superpower? If superpower is an MH entity you really don't have to do anything or worry that much. You understand them and they understand you and both sides will do the best for themselves and each other. But what do you do when you are an MH entity and the superpower you have the longest borders with is a CH one? That's when things get interesting :-) Cause THAT's where you can see how MH is different from CH, sweetie. And we Iranians were different from Russians. Not much meaningful trade could be conducted with them, because they had more power and this fact warped their judgement and made them at times rude. Just like present USA and Iran. Or British Empire of 1919 and Iran. Same situation. No matter what was done, how many different tries were made, how many various venues of approaches were taken, relationship of USA or the British Empire with Iran steadily went southward. MH cannot meaningfully trade with CH when the latter is a superpower and that MH is not. So one way or another, you end up with a huge problem on your hands. CH being carefree and careless and abusive, and you being an MH deciding to fully _solve_ that problem :) To fully _subdue_ that CH entity. Imagine a large number of tigers roaming around you making life the simple stupid way they want, not the way you want. Hurting you without much repercussions, and getting rude! This was the situation. Who wins here? The MH wins. What Iran did was of course to begin with what it had in common with Russians, the overlap, the Caucasus area people. The seeds of the downfall of Russian Empire could not grow anywhere else. The European overlap areas were themselves stupid as sin like CH is and could not deal with Russians well. But farther east, when you entered Iranian areas where MH had lived for eons and at the time overlapped that empire, such seeds would grow fast and healthy indeed. Looking back, you can see anything in any form that eventually brought down the Russian Empire began from that Caucasus area. Nowhere else. Armenians and Georgians were Iranians for the past thousands of years, but at the time were newly being ruled by this CH empire. So Iranians in Iran proper got busy getting quite creative. Iran began nurturing, helping, designing, training, channeling money, buying them arms, and getting involved in every aspect of logistical needs of those people to deliver a blow to that empire. First success was the so-called revolution of 1905. It was not aimed to bring down Russian Empire, but to attain first real exposure to that unusual "war." On the surface of it all such formations in reality and in minds (various social theories aimed at killing the empire) were totally crushed by the empire and everybody responsible were arrested, executed, or sent to Siberia to die. But the probe had been carried out! Lot's of vital information to be used the next time around. As we know it now, this second opportunity came at the end of WWI and only because British Empire was too weak to help Russians. Even Turkey had defeated them together with all the help they could get from Australians. Stalin himself was a first generation Georgian. His parents were Christian Iranians originally living in a Persian speaking city inside the Iran proper then moving to Georgia, and spoke Persian indeed. Stalin's original real name was Yousef Yousefzadeh. He could understand spoken Persian but could not himself speak it. In 1943 Tehran Conference when he met the new young Shah and his family in Saadabad Palace his translator would only translate his Russian questions and responses to Persian for the family to understand. Nobody translated the Persian that the family was speaking to Russian for Stalin. He could clearly understand it himself. Stalin in that meeting managed to piss the Shah off to the point that his family had to intervene and ask Shah to stay polite. He (Stalin) kept giving "people" this and "people" that to him from the large bag of communist tricks and jargon and Shah answered "We created such crap just to bring the Empire down, not to rule over Russia with it!". And he was right. And Stalin indeed knew he was right. So no hard feelings remained. It was a scene to see though, clearly described in Shah's mother's autobiography. Shah's mother was herself from Caucasus area. Stalin dealing for decades with CH all around him had forgotten it. 1905 years were too far in the past. He'd forgotten that it was a different matter when it came to exchange words with the MH. But he caught up fast, and when Shah asked him to prevent the Red Army inside northern Iran from harming people and touching properties and possessions, Stalin gave his promise and very diligently committed to it. The tales of it still are around, how Iranians would see the Red Army eating watermelon skins from their garbage but would not touch women or properties and kept their distances. This was the same CH Red Army that had ravaged looted and raped every single village and town from Stalingrad to Berlin!.. Stalin would not allow such behavior from CH in the MH areas. Not a single instance of such behavior were seen inside Iran. Let me make it short, it doesn't matter who originally created communism (some Jewish MH trying to get even with CH atrocities against them the Jews), what mattered was Russian Empire was built upon a feudal system. Iranians quickly found communism to be the answer to their problem cause communism had in itself, first, destruction of that feudal system :) You'd kill feudalism, the Empire would collapse on its own. Exactly what happened! Hehe :) The actual problem was solved in this way and not by the way of further wars. ACOB rules and MH has much better grasp of STRP than CH ever has. -- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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| From | Jeff-Relf.Me @. |
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| Date | 2021-11-09 15:14 -0800 |
| Subject | Get "woke", go broke. |
| Message-ID | <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.14pm.Seattle.2021> |
| In reply to | #835370 |
ClutterFreak: > [ Who created communism ? ] > [ Eastern Jews seeking revenge for Western atrocities ? ] Communism is the excuse trust fund babies use against her capitalist fathers. Get "woke", go broke.
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| From | RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> |
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| Date | 2021-11-09 20:05 -0500 |
| Subject | Re: Get "woke", go broke. |
| Message-ID | <FVEiJ.17274$SW5.562@fx45.iad> |
| In reply to | #835396 |
On 2021-11-09 6:14 p.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote: > ClutterFreak: >> [ Who created communism ? ] >> [ Eastern Jews seeking revenge for Western atrocities ? ] > > Communism is the excuse trust fund babies > use against her capitalist fathers. > > Get "woke", go broke. Anyone who makes a statement either sympathizing with Communists or in support of the ideology should be sterilized. -- @RabidHussar Proudly cable-free
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| From | chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> |
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| Date | 2021-11-10 07:46 -0600 |
| Subject | Re: Get "woke", go broke. |
| Message-ID | <n7jnog5ahqmnnv3erdlqlb8ueec8ih4kmj@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #835402 |
RabidHussar wrote: >Anyone who makes a statement either sympathizing with Communists or in >support of the ideology should be sterilized. ...said the self-proclaimed "Christian". What a turd! -- "getting COVID-19 is only dangerous if you're incredibly unhealthy." - "Slimer", lying shamelessly
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