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  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-19 12:02 -0500
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-19 13:51 -0500
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 10:22 -0500
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 13:16 -0500
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 13:52 -0500
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-20 19:11 -0500
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-21 15:19 -0500
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-22 09:53 -0500
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-24 11:13 -0500
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-15 12:24 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-16 14:53 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 14:35 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-17 21:54 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-18 11:15 -0600
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-18 11:40 -0600
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2021-10-22 12:19 -0400
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutter Freak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-24 07:27 -0700
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-25 11:30 -0500
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-10-27 10:35 -0500
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-03 22:35 -0500
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 12:52 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 14:57 -0800
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-08 17:25 -0600
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 16:52 -0800
                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-08 19:40 -0600
                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 20:58 -0800
                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 00:05 -0600
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-08 23:10 -0500
                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-08 20:59 -0800
                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-08 23:44 -0600
                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 00:08 -0600
                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 03:42 -0800
                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 08:59 -0600
                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 13:25 -0800
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 22:15 -0800
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-10 10:32 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 09:32 -0600
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 10:08 -0600
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 12:23 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-05 13:17 -0500
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 12:05 -0600
            Everybody who could do something quit in disgust. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 15:14 -0800
            Your Analytics Compartments :-) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 15:45 -0800
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 12:27 -0600
            Get "woke", go broke. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-09 15:14 -0800
              Re: Get "woke", go broke. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-09 20:05 -0500
                Re: Get "woke", go broke. chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-11-10 07:46 -0600

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#835233

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-07 12:05 -0600
Message-ID<sm981a$4q9$1@solani.org>
In reply to#835096
On 11/5/2021 1:17 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 



One more example for function of Substitution. The adoption of Islam.

Example 14: Adoption of Islam

When it makes sense and offers better options and solutions, you even 
change your religion :) If you're MH, that is. Not CH. This is what Iran 
did some 1400 years back.

By then, 1400 years ago, the wonderful observation-based religion of 
wisdom, kindness, individualism, and long-term scopes that Mithraism 
was, had been gradually misused and combined and corrupted into a form 
of Zoroastrianism which people found quite cumbersome, silly, and devoid 
of real virtues. For instance, the very process of turning on a sacred 
fire took one hour of nonsense procedures! The act of wearing a robe 
took half an hour of endless nonsense words and pretends. It was still 
far better than nothing of course. Especially it was superior to what 
European pagans and old Romans believed in. But for the MH it had 
started to fall short of what the demand was.

Part of Iran had become Christian and part Jewish of course, yet 
majority were Zoroastrians. These older Judaism and Christianity also 
had developed their own problems. Jewish practice was too old and 
limited to begin with, and remainder of Christianity after suffering CH 
modifications had changed much of the original Mithraic nature in it and 
had indeed become as limited as Judaism. Iranians felt these facts 
dearly and tolerated it for quite some time (attribute of Patience in 
MH). But not for ever of course! This is why Islam was created and how 
Islam began.

In the southernmost expanses of Iran, far enough from the immediate 
powerful Zoroastrian influence and control in central Iran, this 
seedling gradually grew among a few MH in there :-)

One may observe and conclude that Islam was so lucky to have occurred 
among that part of Iran because Iranians of that region (present "Arabs" 
in Arabian Peninsula) have always been known throughout Iran as having 
the highest degree of _loyalty_ in their culture. To this day you can 
never find a better friend than an Arab friend from those regions. No 
matter what hardship you go through, no matter what ups and downs of 
life befalls you, if your friend is one of those Arabs, you have a 
reliable, selfless help within a hand's reach. Therefore many would say 
Islam was lucky for its survival to have started in that region. But I 
think the reality is different from it.

I think in reality many many such seedlings began to grow throughout 
Iran all over, and for a long period of time also, but all succumbed to 
hardship people around exerted on them. Iranians of other areas were no 
Arabs of southern Arabian Peninsula :) So when one of these seedlings 
began to grow there, right among those Arabs, potential AT LAST found 
its way to materialize for a change!

And this potential _materialized_ sweetie, like no other phenomena 
you've ever seen in history.

Simply put, as MH noticed its features and potentials, more and more MH 
joined in. It was so much the answer to people's need that it almost 
exploded in all directions. South and east and west were blocked by 
water, so it rapidly found its way north, northeast, and northwest. When 
it reached the strongholds and centers of Iranian Zoroastrian government 
(only 10 short years after its inception) people were found to be on the 
side of the new movement!... It spread throughout with very little wars 
or atrocities. The worst wars MH had to wage were all inside those 
southernmost areas in the Arabian Peninsula when Islam was still not 
fully known and understood by others. The very "loyal" nature of Arabs 
worked for the opposition to Islam as well. But where and when it was 
understood, MH didn't hesitate to change to Islam on their own and there 
were no need for any "war."

Mohammad, confronted with deeply rooted Arab sense of loyalty, had to 
even name the god in Islam as "Allah"!... Allah previously was the most 
important idol worshiped in mecca, the one with the most adherents among 
Arabs, the one Mohammad's own father worshiped! (Abdollah means 
worshiper of Allah) So Mohammad correctly destroyed all those idols 
together with the Allah, but named the one entity beyond them all, after 
that particular idol. When asked "What is the difference between the 
idol Allah and your god Allah?" he responded, "The two are one and the 
same. All gods are one and the same."

Omar, the caliph in charge when Islam reached sensitive areas of Iran, 
was indeed welcomed in. Iranians' dislike of Omar is real and famous not 
because he "occupied" Iran, but because this otherwise extremely 
intelligent and careful man, did not see to it enough to save the 
largest library of science and tech in the world of those times, the 
Gondishapur compound. Some section of his armies had burnt it before 
Omar arrived and grasped the significance of the loss. In desperation, 
when he was asked what to do about it now that it's burnt and gone, his 
answer was, "Well.., at least we have Quran left :-("

There were two other similar centers of knowledge in Iran that survived 
intact after this disastrous experience at Gondishapur, so it was not a 
totally irreversible loss. That's how Indian, Persian, Greek, and 
Egyptian MH work survived (but in Arabic language) for centuries later 
when Europeans (read "the jews in Europe", the MH, not the CH) began 
understanding and using them again.

Omar, one of the brightest example of MH one could think of, literally 
the "left hand of Mohammad" ("right hand" being Ali) is hated in Iran 
since those times for only this Gondishapur reason!..

Almost the entire population of Iran gladly changed their religions to 
Islam, including of course a large number of Christians and Jews. What 
remained of these people of other religions were the hardcore factions 
among them, those who stuck to theirs no matter what and saw to it that 
they were better off staying with what they had. The present jewish and 
Christian Iranians are the descendants of those who didn't change 
religion 1400 years back.

Both Christianity and Judaism found it easy to coexist with Islam. Islam 
in its core had nothing against those practices and in a way has 
incorporated them both. But there was a problem with Zoroastrianism. 
They could not coexist well with Islam because Islam had equality of 
rights as one of its pillars while Zoroastrians condoned classes and 
castes. This was a big issue for Zoroastrians who were now surrounded by 
Moslems.

After a few short years of tolerating Islamic equal status practices, 
many of these Zoroastrians decided to emigrate from Iran. North still 
had nothing but basically CH savagery to offer and West were filled with 
more Moslems, so they took their journeys east. To India. Their 
descendants are today called "Parsi"s of India, and sure enough they're 
still Caste practitioners as Hell itself. They took their Caste formulas 
with them from Iran and spread it inside India. Something Indians still 
suffer from.

Islam was amazing compared to anything that ever was in the form of a 
religion. It was advanced, comprehensive, effective, and soothing. The 
cure for their many hardships and shortcomings of practices around them. 
It lifted the entire region up in spirit and everybody who could do 
something well joined in :-) It really "exploded" in every direction 
geographically and mentally.

Nothing even remotely comes close to this gigantic change MH took in 
their lives, when you study what CH ever did among themselves. The 
change to Islam, and the speed with which it took place could only be 
managed by MH. And it is a perfect example of the ability to change, a 
form of "Substitution", that MH enjoys and CH lacks in comparison.










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#835252 — Everybody who could do something quit in disgust.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-11-07 15:14 -0800
SubjectEverybody who could do something quit in disgust.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--3.14pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#835233
ClutterFreak:
> [ Early Islam ] lifted the entire region up in spirit 
> and everybody who could do something well joined in :-)
> 
> It really "exploded" in every direction 
> geographically and mentally.

Compare that with Joe Biden's (FlyByNight) Apocalypse cult.

Global warming !  How dare you !  Covid is killing us all !

Warm, greenhouse gases are only good for plants, not humans !


Everybody who could do something quit in disgust.

It really "exploded" in our faces.

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#835259

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-11-07 15:45 -0800
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.7--3.45pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#835233
Speaking of Islam, You (ClutterFreak) wrote:
> [starting] a fire took an hour of nonsense !
> 
> The act of wearing a robe took a half hour.

Shia (MH) or Sunni (CH) ?

You're Shia (MH), I presume.

> Zoroastrians condoned classes and castes.

Genetically, were they MH (good) or CH (evil) ?

Indonesia is CH (evil) ?

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#835370

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2021-11-09 12:27 -0600
Message-ID<smeej8$l9h$1@solani.org>
In reply to#835096
On 11/5/2021 1:17 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> My next example for function STRP will be how Iran solved the menace of 
> Russian Empire :-)


Example 3: Problem of Russian Empire.

I've discussed this earlier in some other blog or perhaps in this same 
blog; don't have time to go check. I'll go over it briefly one more time.

Romans where a CH superpower when Iran itself was an MH superpower, so 
no sweats there, we got them and we got those CH maggot brains good. But 
by the time Russian Empire formed and expanded and became a superpower, 
a lot had happened to Iran including the Mongol Onslaught which had set 
the time back for these Iranians; Iran was not a superpower anymore. It 
severely lacked most of what they had before plus had tried conventional 
war with Russian Empire and had lost the Caucasus part of Iran to them 
recently. So this was a new situation that only occurred about 200 years 
back for Iran. Never before.

How do you deal with a superpower? If superpower is an MH entity you 
really don't have to do anything or worry that much. You understand them 
and they understand you and both sides will do the best for themselves 
and each other. But what do you do when you are an MH entity and the 
superpower you have the longest borders with is a CH one?

That's when things get interesting :-)

Cause THAT's where you can see how MH is different from CH, sweetie.

And we Iranians were different from Russians. Not much meaningful trade 
could be conducted with them, because they had more power and this fact 
warped their judgement and made them at times rude. Just like present 
USA and Iran. Or British Empire of 1919 and Iran. Same situation. No 
matter what was done, how many different tries were made, how many 
various venues of approaches were taken, relationship of USA or the 
British Empire with Iran steadily went southward. MH cannot meaningfully 
trade with CH when the latter is a superpower and that MH is not.

So one way or another, you end up with a huge problem on your hands. CH 
being carefree and careless and abusive, and you being an MH deciding to 
fully _solve_ that problem :) To fully _subdue_ that CH entity.

Imagine a large number of tigers roaming around you making life the 
simple stupid way they want, not the way you want. Hurting you without 
much repercussions, and getting rude! This was the situation. Who wins 
here? The MH wins.

What Iran did was of course to begin with what it had in common with 
Russians, the overlap, the Caucasus area people. The seeds of the 
downfall of Russian Empire could not grow anywhere else. The European 
overlap areas were themselves stupid as sin like CH is and could not 
deal with Russians well. But farther east, when you entered Iranian 
areas where MH had lived for eons and at the time overlapped that 
empire, such seeds would grow fast and healthy indeed.

Looking back, you can see anything in any form that eventually brought 
down the Russian Empire began from that Caucasus area. Nowhere else. 
Armenians and Georgians were Iranians for the past thousands of years, 
but at the time were newly being ruled by this CH empire.

So Iranians in Iran proper got busy getting quite creative. Iran began 
nurturing, helping, designing, training, channeling money, buying them 
arms, and getting involved in every aspect of logistical needs of those 
people to deliver a blow to that empire.

First success was the so-called revolution of 1905. It was not aimed to 
bring down Russian Empire, but to attain first real exposure to that 
unusual "war." On the surface of it all such formations in reality and 
in minds (various social theories aimed at killing the empire) were 
totally crushed by the empire and everybody responsible were arrested, 
executed, or sent to Siberia to die. But the probe had been carried out! 
Lot's of vital information to be used the next time around. As we know 
it now, this second opportunity came at the end of WWI and only because 
British Empire was too weak to help Russians. Even Turkey had defeated 
them together with all the help they could get from Australians.

Stalin himself was a first generation Georgian. His parents were 
Christian Iranians originally living in a Persian speaking city inside 
the Iran proper then moving to Georgia, and spoke Persian indeed. 
Stalin's original real name was Yousef Yousefzadeh. He could understand 
spoken Persian but could not himself speak it. In 1943 Tehran Conference 
when he met the new young Shah and his family in Saadabad Palace his 
translator would only translate his Russian questions and responses to 
Persian for the family to understand. Nobody translated the Persian that 
the family was speaking to Russian for Stalin. He could clearly 
understand it himself.

Stalin in that meeting managed to piss the Shah off to the point that 
his family had to intervene and ask Shah to stay polite. He (Stalin) 
kept giving "people" this and "people" that to him from the large bag of 
communist tricks and jargon and Shah answered "We created such crap just 
to bring the Empire down, not to rule over Russia with it!". And he was 
right. And Stalin indeed knew he was right. So no hard feelings 
remained. It was a scene to see though, clearly described in Shah's 
mother's autobiography. Shah's mother was herself from Caucasus area.

Stalin dealing for decades with CH all around him had forgotten it. 1905 
years were too far in the past. He'd forgotten that it was a different 
matter when it came to exchange words with the MH. But he caught up 
fast, and when Shah asked him to prevent the Red Army inside northern 
Iran from harming people and touching properties and possessions, Stalin 
gave his promise and very diligently committed to it.

The tales of it still are around, how Iranians would see the Red Army 
eating watermelon skins from their garbage but would not touch women or 
properties and kept their distances. This was the same CH Red Army that 
had ravaged looted and raped every single village and town from 
Stalingrad to Berlin!.. Stalin would not allow such behavior from CH in 
the MH areas. Not a single instance of such behavior were seen inside Iran.

Let me make it short, it doesn't matter who originally created communism 
(some Jewish MH trying to get even with CH atrocities against them the 
Jews), what mattered was Russian Empire was built upon a feudal system. 
Iranians quickly found communism to be the answer to their problem cause 
communism had in itself, first, destruction of that feudal system :) 
You'd kill feudalism, the Empire would collapse on its own.

Exactly what happened! Hehe :)

The actual problem was solved in this way and not by the way of further 
wars. ACOB rules and MH has much better grasp of STRP than CH ever has.










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#835396 — Get "woke", go broke.

FromJeff-Relf.Me @.
Date2021-11-09 15:14 -0800
SubjectGet "woke", go broke.
Message-ID<Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.9--3.14pm.Seattle.2021>
In reply to#835370
ClutterFreak:
> [ Who created communism ? ]  
> [ Eastern Jews seeking revenge for Western atrocities ? ]

Communism is the excuse trust fund babies 
use against her capitalist fathers.

Get "woke", go broke.

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#835402 — Re: Get "woke", go broke.

FromRabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar>
Date2021-11-09 20:05 -0500
SubjectRe: Get "woke", go broke.
Message-ID<FVEiJ.17274$SW5.562@fx45.iad>
In reply to#835396
On 2021-11-09 6:14 p.m., Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> ClutterFreak:
>> [ Who created communism ? ]
>> [ Eastern Jews seeking revenge for Western atrocities ? ]
> 
> Communism is the excuse trust fund babies
> use against her capitalist fathers.
> 
> Get "woke", go broke.

Anyone who makes a statement either sympathizing with Communists or in 
support of the ideology should be sterilized.


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#835426 — Re: Get "woke", go broke.

Fromchrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid>
Date2021-11-10 07:46 -0600
SubjectRe: Get "woke", go broke.
Message-ID<n7jnog5ahqmnnv3erdlqlb8ueec8ih4kmj@4ax.com>
In reply to#835402
RabidHussar wrote:

>Anyone who makes a statement either sympathizing with Communists or in 
>support of the ideology should be sterilized.

...said the self-proclaimed "Christian".  What a turd!

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