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  For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-06 15:33 -0700
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-06 21:19 -0700
      Starmaker, How is Windows 95 working out for you ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 02:32 -0800
        Re: Starmaker, How is Windows 95 working out for you ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 10:32 -0800
          Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 14:22 -0800
            Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-07 17:00 -0600
              Why ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-07 15:19 -0800
                Re: Why ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-07 19:20 -0600
            Re: Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 15:57 -0800
              Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-11-07 18:47 -0700
                Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 20:34 -0800
      Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-07 08:15 -0500
        Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 10:39 -0800
          Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-07 14:50 -0500
            Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-07 13:54 -0600
      Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 10:42 -0800
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 14:11 -0800
      Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-07 19:49 -0500
        Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2021-11-07 16:57 -0800
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2021-11-07 21:32 -0800
    Re: For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-09 10:40 -0800
      Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-09 14:45 -0800
        Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-09 16:59 -0600
          Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dick_Holder <dick_holder@man.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:09 +0000
            Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dick_Holder <dick_holder@man.invalid> - 2021-11-09 23:12 +0000
            Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 08:14 -0800
          Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-09 15:14 -0800
          Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 08:12 -0800
        Re: Hitler wanted to kill Einstein & vice versa. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 08:04 -0800
          Christianity refined prior religions. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 17:59 -0800
            Re: Christianity refined prior religions. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 20:26 -0600
              ClutterFreak worships a narcissistic deadbeat ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 18:47 -0800
                Re: ClutterFreak worships a narcissistic deadbeat ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 21:22 -0600
                  English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 19:36 -0800
                    Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Ayaz Siddiqi <ayaz.s.siddiqi@gmail.com> - 2021-11-10 22:50 -0800
                      Asians are (literally) hit the hardest. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-10 23:19 -0800
                        Re: Asians are (literally) hit the hardest. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-12 10:52 -0600
                      Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Dhruv <tsp2opt@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 08:52 -0800
                        Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 11:13 -0800
                          Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 11:19 -0800
                            Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 11:50 -0800
                              Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 12:04 -0800
                                Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2021-11-11 15:42 -0800
                                  Re: English please, ClutterFreak, we don't speak random. Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2021-11-11 16:55 -0800

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#835195 — For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature.

You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ):
> > [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ]
> 
> [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ]

Few agree on who/what "God" might be.

For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
others would (violently) disagree, of course.

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#835199

Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ):
> > > [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ]
> >
> > [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ]
> 
> Few agree on who/what "God" might be.
> 
> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
> others would (violently) disagree, of course.

God is a short word for Good, and you cannot have the good without the
bad.

you cannot have a positive without a negative

or a right without a left

right or wrong

light or dark

etc, etc, ect.

 


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#835217 — Starmaker, How is Windows 95 working out for you ?

How is Windows 95 working out for you, Starmaker,
have you got the hang of it yet ?

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#835229 — Re: Starmaker, How is Windows 95 working out for you ?

Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> How is Windows 95 working out for you, Starmaker,
> have you got the hang of it yet ?



I found some free win95

https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-95/osr-2


but, but...

I decided instead to just convert the source code to python...

 function nnrp_post_finish( $nhd ) {
	fwrite( $nhd, ".\r\n");
	list( $code, $msg ) = get_status( $nhd );
}

function nnrp_cancel( $nhd, $name, $email, $msgid, $newsgroup, $subject = null ) {
	send_command( $nhd, "POST" );
	list( $code, $msg ) = get_status( $nhd );
	fwrite( $nhd, "From: $name <$email>\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "Newsgroups: $newsgroup\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "Subject: cmsg cancel $msgid\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "Control: cancel $msgid\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "\r\n" );
	if( $subject )
		fwrite( $nhd, "$subject deleted from $newsgroups\r\n");
	fwrite( $nhd, ".\r\n");
	list( $code, $msg ) = get_status( $nhd );
}
}
    } else {
	open(FH, '|rnews') && select FH
	    if $production;
	$myid = $msgid;
	$myid =~ s/</<cancel./;
	print 'Newsgroups: news.admin
Path: ', $canceller, '
Subject: cmsg cancel ', $msgid, '
Control: cancel ', $msgid, '
From: ', $from, '
Date: ', $date, '
Message-ID: ', $myid, '

';
	close(FH)
	    if $production;
    }

 function nnrp_post_finish( $nhd ) {
	fwrite( $nhd, ".\r\n");
	list( $code, $msg ) = get_status( $nhd );
}

function nnrp_cancel( $nhd, $name, $email, $msgid, $newsgroup, $subject = null ) {
	send_command( $nhd, "POST" );
	list( $code, $msg ) = get_status( $nhd );
	fwrite( $nhd, "From: $name <$email>\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "Newsgroups: $newsgroup\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "Subject: cmsg cancel $msgid\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "Control: cancel $msgid\r\n" );
	fwrite( $nhd, "\r\n" );
	if( $subject )
		fwrite( $nhd, "$subject deleted from $newsgroups\r\n");
	fwrite( $nhd, ".\r\n");
	list( $code, $msg ) = get_status( $nhd );
}
}
    } else {
	open(FH, '|rnews') && select FH
	    if $production;
	$myid = $msgid;
	$myid =~ s/</<cancel./;
	print 'Newsgroups: news.admin
Path: ', $canceller, '
Subject: cmsg cancel ', $msgid, '
Control: cancel ', $msgid, '
From: ', $from, '
Date: ', $date, '
Message-ID: ', $myid, '

';
	close(FH)
	    if $production;
    }

/* if there's articles in this group, */
				/* obtain the necessary headers; then */
				/* issue the cancels; otherwise, just */
				/* continue on around the loop.       */

				if (theGroup.getCount().equals("0"))
					theGroup.setLow(theGroup.getHigh());
				else
					{
					/* nothing to do, if not cancelling */

					if (noScanner) continue;

					/* get the message IDs */

					if (!doXhdrMessageID(theGroup))
						{
						if (timeToSlide)
							{
							doSlide(i--, true);
							continue;
							}
						else
							fatal(cantFetch + messHDR + "s.");
						}

					if (msgidList.countItems() == 0) continue;
					
					/* get the author addresses */

					if (!doXhdrFrom(theGroup))
						{
						if (timeToSlide)
							{
							doSlide(i--, true);
							continue;
							}
						else
							fatal(cantFetch + fromHDR + "s.");
						}

					/* get the cross-posting list, if needed */

					if (!cancelling)
						if (!doXhdr(theGroup, ngroupStr))
							{
							if (timeToSlide)
								{
								doSlide(i--, true);
								continue;
								}
							else
								fatal(cantFetch + ngroupStr + " headers.");
							}

					/* get the Subjects, if we need 'em */

					String cc = getCancelChoice;

					if (cc.equals(subjHDR) || !cancelling)
						if (!doXhdr(theGroup, subjectStr))
							{
							if (timeToSlide)
								{
								doSlide(i--, true);
								continue;
								}
							else
								fatal(cantFetch + subjHDR + "s.");
							}

					/* get the Organizations, if we need 'em */

					if (cc.equals(orgaHDR) || scrambling)
							if (!doXhdr(theGroup, organStr))
								{
								if (timeToSlide)
									{
									doSlide(i--, true);
									continue;
									}
								else
									fatal(cantFetch + orgaHDR + "s.");
								}

					/* get the Paths, if we need 'em */

					if (cc.equals(pathHDR) || scrambling)
							if (!doXhdr(theGroup, pathStr))
								{
								if (timeToSlide)
									{
									doSlide(i--, true);
									continue;
									}
								else
									fatal(cantFetch + pathHDR + "s.");
								}

					/* get the Approveds, if we need 'em */

					boolean modFlag = false;
					boolean noappFlag = false;
					boolean ruleFlag = false;

					if (theGroup.getName().indexOf("moderated") != -1)
						modFlag = true;

					if (getCanAppr == null)
						noappFlag = true;
					else if (getCanAppr.countItems() == 0)
						noappFlag = true;



He who controls the data controls the world.


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#835245 — Why Windows 95 ? Why python ?

Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ?

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#835251 — Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ?

On 11/7/2021 4:22 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ?

"Why" is not a question answered in physics. This is a physics 
newsgroup. Even when off topic, "why" is not answerable here.

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#835255 — Why ?

"whodat" wrote:
> "Why" is not a question answered in physics. 
> This is a physics [ hang out ].
> Even when off topic, "why" is not answerable here.

Why ?

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#835267 — Re: Why ?

On 11/7/2021 5:19 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> "whodat" wrote:
>> "Why" is not a question answered in physics.
>> This is a physics [ hang out ].
>> Even when off topic, "why" is not answerable here.
> 
> Why ?

"What is the difference between physics and metaphysics?

"Physics is all about nature, natural phenomenon, and our understanding
of all relationships while metaphysics also tries to answer why part of
all things. Why do we or universe exists or where have we come from and
what is the cause of our existence are some of the questions that are
tackled by metaphysics."

<https://www.mvorganizing.org/what-is-a-metaphysical-question/#What_is_the_difference_between_physics_and_metaphysics>

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#835261 — Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ?

Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> 
> Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ?

The program worked before in win95..and stopped working.

So it needs to be rewritten to work again.

Fastforward, using python may work around what stopped it from working
in win95.

Using python,
a GUI application in tkinter. nntplib...


I'm breaking new ground. 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#835269 — Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ?

On 11/07/2021 04:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ?
>
> The program worked before in win95..and stopped working.
>
> So it needs to be rewritten to work again.
>
> Fastforward, using python may work around what stopped it from working
> in win95.
>
> Using python,
> a GUI application in tkinter. nntplib...
>
>
> I'm breaking new ground.
>
>
>

Python 2.7 or Python 3.x?

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#835279 — Re: Why Windows 95 ? Why python ?

rbowman wrote:
> 
> On 11/07/2021 04:57 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> >>
> >> Why Windows 95 ?  Why python ?
> >
> > The program worked before in win95..and stopped working.
> >
> > So it needs to be rewritten to work again.
> >
> > Fastforward, using python may work around what stopped it from working
> > in win95.
> >
> > Using python,
> > a GUI application in tkinter. nntplib...
> >
> >
> > I'm breaking new ground.
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Python 2.7 or Python 3.x?

3.8
-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#835219

On 2021-11-07 12:19 a.m., The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>
>> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ):
>>>> [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ]
>>>
>>> [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ]
>>
>> Few agree on who/what "God" might be.
>>
>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
> 
> God is a short word for Good, and you cannot have the good without the
> bad.
> 
> you cannot have a positive without a negative
> 
> or a right without a left
> 
> right or wrong
> 
> light or dark
> 
> etc, etc, ect.

Neo without Agent Smith.


-- 
@RabidHussar
Proudly cable-free

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#835230

RabidHussar wrote:
> 
> On 2021-11-07 12:19 a.m., The Starmaker wrote:
> > Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
> >>
> >> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ):
> >>>> [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ]
> >>>
> >>> [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ]
> >>
> >> Few agree on who/what "God" might be.
> >>
> >> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
> >> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
> >
> > God is a short word for Good, and you cannot have the good without the
> > bad.
> >
> > you cannot have a positive without a negative
> >
> > or a right without a left
> >
> > right or wrong
> >
> > light or dark
> >
> > etc, etc, ect.
> 
> Neo without Agent Smith.
> 
> --
> @RabidHussar
> Proudly cable-free

wat does the ar in huss.ar stand for? Arkansas??   


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#835234

On 2021-11-07 1:39 p.m., The Starmaker wrote:
> RabidHussar wrote:
>>
>> On 2021-11-07 12:19 a.m., The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>>
>>>> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ):
>>>>>> [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ]
>>>>>
>>>>> [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ]
>>>>
>>>> Few agree on who/what "God" might be.
>>>>
>>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
>>>
>>> God is a short word for Good, and you cannot have the good without the
>>> bad.
>>>
>>> you cannot have a positive without a negative
>>>
>>> or a right without a left
>>>
>>> right or wrong
>>>
>>> light or dark
>>>
>>> etc, etc, ect.
>>
>> Neo without Agent Smith.
>>
>> --
>> @RabidHussar
>> Proudly cable-free
> 
> wat does the ar in huss.ar stand for? Arkansas??

Arsehole.


-- 
@RabidHussar
Proudly cable-free

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#835235

On 11/7/2021 1:50 PM, RabidHussar wrote:
> On 2021-11-07 1:39 p.m., The Starmaker wrote:
>> RabidHussar wrote:
>>>
>>> On 2021-11-07 12:19 a.m., The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ):
>>>>>>> [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ]
>>>>>
>>>>> Few agree on who/what "God" might be.
>>>>>
>>>>> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature;
>>>>> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
>>>>
>>>> God is a short word for Good, and you cannot have the good without the
>>>> bad.
>>>>
>>>> you cannot have a positive without a negative
>>>>
>>>> or a right without a left
>>>>
>>>> right or wrong
>>>>
>>>> light or dark
>>>>
>>>> etc, etc, ect.
>>>
>>> Neo without Agent Smith.
>>>
>>> -- 
>>> @RabidHussar
>>> Proudly cable-free
>>
>> wat does the ar in huss.ar stand for? Arkansas??
> 
> Arsehole.

Or is it arswhole?

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#835373

On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 9:19:36 PM UTC-7, The Starmaker wrote:
> Jeff-Relf.Me, @. wrote: 
> > 
> > You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ): 
> > > > [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ] 
> > > 
> > > [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ] 
> > 
> > Few agree on who/what "God" might be. 
> > 
> > For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> > others would (violently) disagree, of course.
> God is a short word for Good, and you cannot have the good without the 
> bad. 
> 
> you cannot have a positive without a negative 
> 
> or a right without a left 
> 
> right or wrong 
> 
> light or dark 
> 
> etc, etc, ect. 

Interesting.  I was just reading Greg Bear's THE VISITATION a few minutes ago!

> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

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#835243

On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 3:33:55 PM UTC-7, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ): 
> > > [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ] 
> > 
> > [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ] 
> 
> Few agree on who/what "God" might be. 

The super being...

> 
> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> others would (violently) disagree, of course.

On Einstein's last day he said the atheists
were his problem all along and they would
not let him see it. He didn't want to be used
for the atheist world.

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#835263

On 11/7/2021 5:11 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

> On Einstein's last day he said the atheists
> were his problem all along and they would
> not let him see it. He didn't want to be used
> for the atheist world.
> 

You lie, Roy Masters Mitch. Why do you lie?
Nobody knows what Einstein said on his last day. The only one with him 
was his nurse, who didn't know the German Einstein was using.

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#835264

Michael Moroney wrote:
> 
> On 11/7/2021 5:11 PM, mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > On Einstein's last day he said the atheists
> > were his problem all along and they would
> > not let him see it. He didn't want to be used
> > for the atheist world.
> >
> 
> You lie, Roy Masters Mitch. Why do you lie?
> Nobody knows what Einstein said on his last day. The only one with him
> was his nurse, who didn't know the German Einstein was using.


Rosenknospe.

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The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#835285

On Saturday, November 6, 2021 at 10:33:55 PM UTC, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote:
> You (Rabid) replied ( to RonB ): 
> > > [ Prove God doesn't exist, MrRussian ] 
> > 
> > [ He'll argue that a true God wouldn't allow evil ] 
> 
> Few agree on who/what "God" might be. 
> 
> For me, Einstein & Spinoza, "God" is nature; 
> others would (violently) disagree, of course.
G is a unit in the army. there isnt just one power centre, there are many. barak obama made sure the eye stays in multiple hands. theodolight anyone?

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