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  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-19 12:27 -0600
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-19 21:03 -0600
      Brains ReWire, to adapt to whatever it is we're doing. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-20 03:49 -0800
        Re: Brains ReWire, to adapt to whatever it is we're doing. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-20 08:13 -0600
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-20 02:52 -0800
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-20 09:58 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-20 12:59 -0800
    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-21 12:43 -0600
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-21 13:47 -0600
        "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-21 18:42 -0800
          Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 00:02 -0800
            Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 09:11 -0600
              Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 09:23 -0600
                Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 10:13 -0600
                  Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 14:20 -0600
              Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-22 13:33 -0500
                My nose is too flat ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-22 12:14 -0800
                  Re: My nose is too flat ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 14:34 -0600
                    Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-22 14:50 -0800
                      Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-22 16:56 -0600
                        Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. RabidHussar <rabid@huss.ar> - 2021-11-22 21:28 -0500
                      Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 22:29 -0600
                        Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 22:56 -0600
                          Expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-23 01:43 -0800
                            Re: Expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly. Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2021-11-23 03:14 -0800
              Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics. Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 15:15 -0800
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 09:53 -0600
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-21 15:09 -0600
        The value of an airplane is not measured in pounds. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-21 19:04 -0800
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 11:44 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-23 12:41 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Michael Moroney <moroney@world.std.spaamtrap.com> - 2021-11-23 14:59 -0500
            Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-24 02:49 -0800
              Re: Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-24 04:51 -0600
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 12:11 -0600
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 13:24 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-22 13:51 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-24 10:25 -0600
      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-24 12:44 -0600
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-25 09:31 -0600
          Yet another FlyByNight Apocalypse cult has enveloped Earth. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-11-25 09:15 -0800
            Re: Yet another FlyByNight Apocalypse cult has enveloped Earth. whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-11-25 11:35 -0600
              Re: Yet another FlyByNight Apocalypse cult has enveloped Earth. SilverSlimer <silver@slim.er> - 2021-11-25 12:42 -0500
        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-26 21:48 -0600
          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-27 19:23 -0600
            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-28 14:03 -0600
              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-29 13:17 -0600
                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-11-30 11:31 -0600
                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-01 14:32 -0600
                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 14:52 -0600
                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-12-03 17:12 -0800
                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 00:05 -0600
                        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 09:25 -0600
                          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 12:07 -0800
                            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 20:05 -0800
                        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-04 10:50 -0600
                          Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 14:00 -0600
                            How are you Iranians better off than me, here in Seattle ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-05 13:13 -0800
                              Re: How are you Iranians better off than me, here in Seattle ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-12-05 16:35 -0600
                              Re: How are you Iranians better off than me, here in Seattle ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 19:50 -0600
                                Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-05 21:21 -0800
                                  Re: Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 08:39 -0600
                                    Re: Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-12-13 17:58 -0600
                                      Tehran consums 4 metric tons of opium per _Day_. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-13 18:06 -0800
                                        Re: Tehran consums 4 metric tons of opium per _Day_. Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 21:09 -0500
                                          Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-13 18:57 -0800
                                            Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! silverslimer <silver@slim.er> - 2021-12-14 07:42 -0500
                                            Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-14 10:05 -0600
                                              Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Serg io <invalid@invalid.com> - 2021-12-14 10:17 -0600
                                              Re: Why does a 12-year-old Iranian girl need opium ?! Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-15 09:16 -0600
                                                What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-15 07:23 -0800
                                                  Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-15 09:58 -0600
                                                    Some (Shia) Iranians won't speak of Israel. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-15 08:21 -0800
                                                  Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? chrisv <chrisv@nospam.invalid> - 2021-12-15 10:23 -0600
                                                  Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? rbowman <bowman@montana.com> - 2021-12-15 19:44 -0700
                                                    Re: What you think of Israel & (Sunni) Saudi Arabia ? Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-16 10:35 -0600
                                      Re: Would you be better off in Iran, with your family ? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2021-12-13 22:22 -0600
                            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-05 20:29 -0600
                              24/7 draft beer, drink it on the street. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-05 21:41 -0800
                                Sharia Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-07 16:29 -0800
                                  Re: Sharia vallor <vallor@cultnix.org> - 2021-12-08 10:03 +0000
                                    24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer. Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-08 02:51 -0800
                                      Re: 24/7 beer, on the street, no attendant, no door locks, no bouncer. Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 08:22 -0600
                              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 13:06 -0600
                                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 13:35 -0600
                            Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 21:45 -0600
                              Your Analytics Compartments :-) Jeff-Relf.Me  @. - 2021-12-06 20:05 -0800
                              Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 22:35 -0600
                                Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-06 23:39 -0600
                                  Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-07 12:29 -0600
                                    Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-08 10:24 -0600
                                      Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-11 19:36 -0600
                                        Re: Your Analytics Compartments :-) Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2021-12-13 12:46 -0600

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#836553 — Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow.

On 2021-11-22 5:56 p.m., whodat wrote:
> On 11/22/2021 4:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> You (ClutterFreak) replied ( to me ):
>>>> ClutterFreak says I'm only qualified to sell lollipops to kids
>>>> because my nose is too flat:
>>>>
>>>>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Jeff.Relf.Seattle.2020.JPG
>>>
>>> Send us one taken sideways and I'll diagnose you right away :)
>>
>> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Jeff.Relf.Seattle.2013.JPG
>>
>> Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow.
>>
>> No 2021 photo because a tweaker stole my camera, tablet & SmartPhone;
>> I won't replace them because I prefer ( ATA & Win10 ) VoIP phones.
> 
> What, if anything, does this have to do with physics?

Snot falls out, proving gravity and such.

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#836560 — Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow.

On 11/22/2021 4:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> You (ClutterFreak) replied ( to me ):
>>> ClutterFreak says I'm only qualified to sell lollipops to kids
>>> because my nose is too flat:
>>>
>>>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Jeff.Relf.Seattle.2020.JPG
>>
>> Send us one taken sideways and I'll diagnose you right away :)
> 
> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Jeff.Relf.Seattle.2013.JPG
> 
> Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow.



Damn. That's an Iranian nose!.. Perhaps like 3 or 4% CH, nothing more. I 
have to say I didn't expect that. Some transparent skinned Europeans 
have such noses, say Rontgen:

https://cdn.britannica.com/20/130320-050-57EDD079/Wilhelm-Conrad-Rontgen.jpg

They are _not_ half MH half Neanderthal. They're not CH. The percentage 
of MH in them completely overshadows the tiny Neanderthal component, and 
yet this same tiny contribution happens to include in itself the genes 
responsible for transparent skin. That is not a case of CH I have been 
talking about.

You are an exception to the rule among north Europeans. By "CH" I do not 
mean someone like you.



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#836562 — Re: Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow.

On 11/22/2021 10:29 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 11/22/2021 4:50 PM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
>> You (ClutterFreak) replied ( to me ):
>>>> ClutterFreak says I'm only qualified to sell lollipops to kids
>>>> because my nose is too flat:
>>>>
>>>>     http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Jeff.Relf.Seattle.2020.JPG
>>>
>>> Send us one taken sideways and I'll diagnose you right away :)
>>
>> http://Jeff-Relf.Me/Jeff.Relf.Seattle.2013.JPG
>>
>> Both photos show my nose is tall & narrow.
> 
> 
> 
> Damn. That's an Iranian nose!.. Perhaps like 3 or 4% CH, nothing more. I 
> have to say I didn't expect that. Some transparent skinned Europeans 
> have such noses, say Rontgen:
> 
> https://cdn.britannica.com/20/130320-050-57EDD079/Wilhelm-Conrad-Rontgen.jpg 
> 
> 
> They are _not_ half MH half Neanderthal. They're not CH. The percentage 
> of MH in them completely overshadows the tiny Neanderthal component, and 
> yet this same tiny contribution happens to include in itself the genes 
> responsible for transparent skin. That is not a case of CH I have been 
> talking about.
> 
> You are an exception to the rule among north Europeans. By "CH" I do not 
> mean someone like you.
> 
> 
> 


As a matter of fact I just checked again in the mirror to be sure: My 
own nose is exactly like that! ... Hahahha :-)) What do you know..

But I'm not as "White" as you are. My skin gets white (not pink) only in 
Winter times when it doesn't see sunlight. Other times, especially when 
I had to start walking every day, it is never white except in 
permanently covered areas. My eyes are light brown. Father's eyes were 
green, my grandma's (on father's side) eyes were blue. She was fully 
transparent skinned and of the stocks that were remnants of white 
Iranians from ancient times. On my mother's side and up her tree of 
ancestors all hairs were either totally black or red, skin was either 
very white but not transparent (i.e. not pink but very white) or 
transparent when hair was on same person red, and I have a suspicion 
they were all Jewish Iranians who hid their true religion. But nobody 
ever confirmed this to me. My mother is still alive but when I ask her 
about this she just chuckles.





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#836567 — Expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly.

No mountains == No humans.
Persian mountains divide East & West, North & South.
           ...
Grazing on pistachios, kept _fresh_ in 1.5oz packets.
Such packaging typifies "Western" culture.
           ...
In this animated weather map ( of Seattle & Vancouver ), 
the moving arrows indicate where rain is springing from
( like a fountain ) and dropping into ( like a drain ):
https://www.ventusky.com/?p=47.39;-126.57;7&l=rain-ac&w=0tsdFPK3B
           ...
Carbon Dioxide is necessary to maintain your blood pressure;
expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly.

So, counterintuitively, breathing through your nose
( and/or hyperventilating into a bag ) gets you 
_more_ oxygen than you get'd hyperventilating freely.

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#836570 — Re: Expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly.

In article <Jeff-Relf.Me@Nov.23--1.43am.Seattle.2021>,
 Jeff-Relf.Me  @. wrote:

> Carbon Dioxide is necessary to maintain your blood pressure;
> expell too much co2, & you drop like a fly.

Then carbon dioxide builds up, and that triggers inhalation.

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#836550 — Re: "MH" is about culture, not genetics.

On Tuesday, 23 November 2021 at 02:11:54 UTC+11, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 11/22/2021 2:02 AM, Arindam Banerjee wrote: 
> > On Monday, 22 November 2021 at 13:42:32 UTC+11, Jeff-Relf.Me wrote: 
> >> "MH" is about culture, not genetics. 
> > 
> > Arya is about both in the original autochthonous Indian context. 
> > Culture first - a nonArya can become Arya with effort and subsequent acceptance. 
> >
> Yes in a way. Requires Iranian dicks fucking their daughters day in day 
> out for like at least 10 generations. Then the CH _begins_ to get close 
> in modernity as far as human is concerned. Look at extreme south Europe. 
> They went through all that and are much closer to MH than literally 
> anywhere else north of them. 

Persia stopped being a superpower after getting invaded by Alexander.
They did recover well enough, as Parthians, to fight off the Romans. 
Then they got conquered by the lowly Arabs. They were forced to convert to Islam, but chose to be Shia in order to differentiate between themselves and the Sunni Arabs.
Again they made a recovery as Muslims but were annihilated by the pagan Mongols.
Some recovery was made since, and they had a Shah who had delusions of grandeur pre Alexander. But the masses wanted Islam and not ancient history so now Iran is a staunch Islamic nation. 
How well off they are, who knows. Are their ruling mullahs wonderful? They know how to hang on to power, certainly. Can they project that power to the West for genetic purposes? I doubt. Southern Europe has African influences, not Iranian.

> 
> Wiring of brain is a fundamental feature of human. It determines if you 
> are male or female. It determines if your ACOB is up to date or not. It 
> _defines_ you as CH, MH, Asperger, or a chimpanzee. 

Brains are different across species. Within a species, no. 
> 
> The illiterate Jeff keeps talking about affecting the brain wiring by 
> training and effort, mistaking the design itself with the "options" that 
> can be added later. 

He is correct.
> 
> "Let's add the "options" available to convert a motorcycle to a Corvette!" 

Different species of transport, here.
> 
> Some people don't know that they needed to sell lollipops and nothing 
> beyond! I've said this once, he didn't catch it.
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#836508

On 11/21/2021 1:47 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> So Germans didn't indeed get the deserved favor towards them from Iran, 
> or did they? :)


The external evidences for that are very few. One is the fact that in 
1968 the moment Krupp encountered financial difficulties Shah 
immediately bought virtually all their stocks at a high price. When U.S. 
embassy (headed by CIA director Helms!) complained Shah gave Helms the 
middle finger so to speak. He slammed the phone down on him after 
telling him it was not his business.

So Krupp survived.

This is one evidence among a few others that are too good for you to know.

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#836445

On 11/21/2021 12:43 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> This extremely secret information reached Iran not from Iranian embassy 
> in Moscow, but from the embassy in Berlin! Their spies in Germany had 
> collected this information from remnants of communists inside Germany; 
> i.e. Jewish people still residing in Berlin. There were still many Jews 
> quite high up in Soviet power structure.


I can't say everything that's required to say in 10 minutes of lightning 
fast typing. So here I add that Stalin got the wind of his plans leak 
when his spies in Iran manage to collect it, of all the people, from 
German spies inside Iran! One of these spies was actually a communist 
planted in German's rings in Tehran. Via these Germans he found out Iran 
knows of Stalin's plans and reported it to Moscow. From the moment 
Stalin accessed this information none of the Jewish leaders in communist 
parties were safe. He painstakingly began eliminating them one after the 
other, often in grossly obvious ways via bullshit excuses in courts of 
law, followed by their executions.





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#836477 — The value of an airplane is not measured in pounds.

ClutterFreak:
> I can't say everything that's required to say in
> 10 minutes of lightning fast typing.

The value of an airplane is not measured in pounds;
likewise, fewer lines are preferred, when possible.

Programmers spend hours/days/weeks working on a few lines of code.

> Stalin [...] German spies inside Iran !

Nazi Germany lost the day they decided to steal Azerbaijani oil.

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#836514

On 11/21/2021 3:09 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 11/21/2021 12:43 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> This extremely secret information reached Iran not from Iranian 
>> embassy in Moscow, but from the embassy in Berlin! Their spies in 
>> Germany had collected this information from remnants of communists 
>> inside Germany; i.e. Jewish people still residing in Berlin. There 
>> were still many Jews quite high up in Soviet power structure.
> 
> 
> I can't say everything that's required to say in 10 minutes of lightning 
> fast typing. So here I add that Stalin got the wind of his plans leak 
> when his spies in Iran manage to collect it, of all the people, from 
> German spies inside Iran! One of these spies was actually a communist 
> planted in German's rings in Tehran. Via these Germans he found out Iran 
> knows of Stalin's plans and reported it to Moscow. From the moment 
> Stalin accessed this information none of the Jewish leaders in communist 
> parties were safe. He painstakingly began eliminating them one after the 
> other, often in grossly obvious ways via bullshit excuses in courts of 
> law, followed by their executions.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


He did that because Stalin had started to become too much of a communist 
himself for his own sake. He never really was a true communist most of 
his life. But when he ceased to tolerate factions and/or organizations 
among his country that pre-existed communism, he'd become communist 
enough to cause damage to himself and others. That's why he got rid of 
Jewish leaders. The last of them being Trotsky who managed to escape his 
wrath for a few years, but not more than those few years.

Stalin's designs to reach Persian Gulf was not something new. Tzars 
throughout Russian Empire had done more than dreaming about that. They'd 
managed to conduct war with Iran and occupy northwestern Iran (The 
Caucasus) but when they got geographically closer to centers of power in 
Iran they'd found it impossible to come farther south. Their best 
efforts to add a 5th column to make the plan possible had faced utter 
defeat in the liberation of Tehran around 1908. There and then they knew 
they had no choice but kiss their plan goodbye.

Stalin, on the other hand, by 1935, not only had become a menace as 
troubling as Russian Empire to Iran, he even spent a gazillion rubles 
and man-hours to soften the path south by creating vast powerful 
communist footsteps inside Iran itself! He'd become rude. Hence Iran's 
backing of Hitler in the most effective and yet subversive to Allies 
wishes as far as it could ever be managed without involving direct 
confrontation with USA (and what little remained of British Empire).

Iran's indirect efforts cost Stalin (and Russians) millions of men. Most 
of the waves of Red Army Stalin had been forced to send to German fronts 
one after the other only to get slaughtered by Germans (thus reducing 
their ammunition) would've been avoided if Iran had actively been on 
Allies side in the war rather than passively backing Hitler. The help 
Allied delivered to Stalin via Persian Gulf and Iran would've begun in 
June of 1941, not August! Can you imagine the implications? Do you know 
what happened to Soviet Union between June and August of 1941?..

We gave it to him. Iran gave it to Stalin _good_ for his getting rude.







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#836598

On 11/22/2021 11:44 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> Stalin's designs to reach Persian Gulf was not something new. Tzars 
> throughout Russian Empire had done more than dreaming about that.


This fact was behind Reza Shah's decision (read it: "Ace's decision") to 
adopt a different size rail system for that vital north-south stretch 
from Persian Gulf to Soviet Union borders north of Iran. A train 
carrying supplies either way had to come to a stop there at the border 
and wait a long time for everything to be unloaded and reloaded on 
trains on the other side of the border to fit the width and features of 
the rail belonging to that side. This had been done before Stalin had 
become a problem for Iran. It was great thinking indeed, providing every 
opportunity to neutralize those supplies sitting like a duck right there 
at the border if needed.

With Tzars themselves gone and lost in the winds of history, their 
wishes were nevertheless quite fresh in Iranians' memories and mind. 
That railway system which was built after downfall of Russian Empire 
shows it all.

When the rails were given to Allies in August of 1941, this same defense 
mechanism became the biggest thorn in the eyes of Allies, creating much 
delays and difficulties right at those borders, effectively making the 
overall effort trippled in magnitude. It was a super important card Ace 
had in dealing with Allies on the third day of the "war" with them. 
Allies knew if they even totally decimated Iran, Iranians were still 
able to sabotage everything they tried to cross at those borders into 
Soviet Union. They knew it was a near impossible task indeed. Ace _knew_ 
how to bargain in these matters.

Imagine Americans forces in Afghanestan having to move their supplies, 
all nicely packed and together in one stretch of train wagons, all 
exactly on predictable routes, right through mountainous areas where the 
Taleban lived like flies all over! Could you really do that? Heheh :-))

There were many similar situations in Vietnam war also that had 
miserably failed. It cannot be done without great loss of supplies, 
time, effort, lives, personnel, blood, and money. Simple as that. Ace 
knew all that and Allies knew all that in that historical talk between 
them on the third day of that "war."

Just a tiny little about this "Ace" here :) He would see nobody 
directly. There are only two pictures of him in the entire world, both 
belonging to his inner family, released for posterity years after his 
death. One is him, very young, right after liberation of Tehran around 
1908 in which he and his brothers had major roles, the other is him at 
his prime right after he created the Pahlavi Dynasty. He himself was 
always in the shadows.

He never assumed any office. He could be king, he could be the richest 
man in the world, but he was not interested. Cause he had to stay in the 
shadow to get his wishes done. You'd only see his men, mainly chosen 
from his extended family which were all important land owners and had 
helped or resisted various governments of Iran throughout ages. These 
"men", all of them, even older ones and richer ones and more "prominent" 
ones, all, conferred with Ace and took directives from him and him 
alone. He was truly an ace. Anything in the world that he wanted, he 
achieved it.

He died about 6 months after Tehran Conference of December 1943. Old 
age. But he was alive and kicking when that conference was held. In the 
shadows, that is :)

It was either him, or the young Shah, who decided Stalin should live. 
Conversely, it was either him, or the young Shah, who had decided Stalin 
should die. I don't know it was whose advice to whom. Because a very 
effective plot had been made to kill Stalin in Tehran in that 
conference, one which Stalin's spies had no clue about. Stalin's spies 
had only penetrated into Germans and Reza Shah's rings, not into the new 
Shah's ring :) They hadn't had time. Soviets had indeed neutralized 
Germany's own plot to kill Stalin in Tehran. Their master spy, some 
Armenian guy, had newly penetrated inside those of Germany's again. But 
Soviets didn't know about the new Iranians' plot.

Stalin was trolling alone a mile or two away from Soviet embassy to take 
a look at Tehran - he had a borsalino hat on to disguise himself and mix 
in with the crowd. His guards were some 50 yards behind following him 
and told to stay away to prevent suspicion for onlookers.

"Tehran is now a Russian city." wrote a Yugoslav dissident in his book 
that came out later. Stalin felt on top. Safe.

At the very last moment before Stalin would get machine gunned in 
Ferdowsi Square, the old woman beggar ("old woman beggar" someone's 
ass!) who followed Stalin on the other side of the street was reached 
and told to hold off. One of the two, either the young Shah or the Ace, 
had convinced the other to let go of the plan at the _last_ moment.

Nobody knows who wanted what done to this day, this mystery stayed known 
to themselves only, and was taken with them to their graves. But the 
plot itself was known to a few best agents Iran had had at the time. Its 
existence reached me third hand in 1970s via my own extended family, 
only whispered, never printed (as far as I know - by now it might even 
be in print).

By 1949 information on that plot had reached Stalin. Ace had passed away 
by then. Even if he was alive Stalin knew better than choosing to go 
that way. So he retaliated in an assassination on Shah's life conducted 
by his communists' hands in Tehran. But guess what!

Stalin, being a super smart fat-assed bureaucrat and nothing more all 
his life, was under the impression that killing a target, any target, 
would be as easy as killing all those other fat-assed bureaucrats he had 
killed earlier before WWII. Hehe :) Himself had never been a military 
man. He really underestimated what a military man was. Shah was from 
head to toe an absolutely perfect example of a fit military officer, 
trained all his life to be so, and capable of lightning fast reaction to 
any situations of danger. Killing a military man is not killing a 
fucking bureaucrat. And bureaucrat as Stalin and his men were, they all 
underestimated their target. From a distance of a TWO FUCKING FEET Shah 
managed to escape death under a rain of bullets shot at him. One of the 
bullets ripped a corner of his upper lip, that was all.

This is him in hospital after that assassination attempt (declaring the 
abolition of the communist party in Iran):

https://i.pinimg.com/564x/4a/a8/7c/4aa87c3b1dab55df593d3316420cd4bb.jpg

Stalin had even prepared for the country wide "celebration" of triumph 
of communists in Iran right after killing the Shah and taking over the 
controls in Iran. They were so certain they had arranged every step of 
the way in advance. By 1949 they didn't know any better! Just what 
"country" in the world they had mistaken Iran for? What country had they 
compared Iran to? It was ridiculous from begin to end. It was as if 
you'd give the fucking TRUMP the go ahead to write a book about Iran! 
Something which that inane Daddy's boy imbecile didn't know _crap_ 
about. They thought Iran was something hanging from a thread and all you 
do is to cut that thread. Well obviously GONE were indeed those who knew 
better among Russians. Stalin must've killed them all by 1949.


Besides, forget about Iran herself for a moment, you think you can do 
that to Shah of Iran and escape trouble? Ha? Wrong. Even if you were 
Stalin at the height of your power and popularity, with nukes and all. 
"Wrong", cause you yourself or your best men at the least will end up 
paying for that.

Look at USA today :-( A second world country. When Carter got rude with 
Shah (and Israel) USA was at the top of the world, first rate and full 
of options to decide the next course of humanity's path, or so it looked 
like. Look what USA is now. People _defecate_ in its grocery stores to 
deliver a message to you that your "press" doesn't dare.

Somebody must've given it to "Carter" when he got too rude with Iran and 
Israel.

Iran has not had just one "Ace" and then after he died, nobody else. 
Aces are constantly nurtured in Iran. We have them under your stupid 
noses, and everywhere else, studying you, gauging you, knowing you 
better than your stupid mothers. You _cannot_ escape their wrath if you 
piss Iranians off. Cause "things" will happen to you, things that you 
won't understand until long after, in retrospect. And even then, you 
still won't be sure what exactly happened to you. This is the MH you're 
dealing with, not CH. How can you escape consequences when you're 
dealing with the best that humanity has offered??

Shah, day after assassination attempt, declared Iran's communist party 
"abolished" and parliament passed it right away. Hell began for Stalin's 
men. This Hell was still going strong and alive years after Stalin 
himself was injected into a vegetable by you know who! Iran's ambassador 
to Moscow had gone to see him out of Iranian protocols of respect, he 
described the situation: "Stalin was there in bed unable to talk, 
pointing to a picture on the wall. I turned to the wall in front of him; 
it was a picture of a baby goat being spoon fed by a three year old. He 
was telling me, 'Look at the irony!'..  He'd been reduced to that baby 
goat."

This was just four months before Zahedi kicked Mosaddegh's government to 
oblivion and Shah embarked on slaughtering every communist element in 
Iran! The slaughter was so thorough and cruel because Stalin's men had 
penetrated into Iran's military itself. Shah would not have that for the 
life of his.
















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#836607

On 11/23/2021 1:41 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 11/22/2021 11:44 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> Stalin's designs to reach Persian Gulf was not something new. Tzars 
>> throughout Russian Empire had done more than dreaming about that.
> 
> 
> This fact was behind Reza Shah's decision (read it: "Ace's decision") to 
> adopt a different size rail system for that vital north-south stretch 
> from Persian Gulf to Soviet Union borders north of Iran. A train 
> carrying supplies either way had to come to a stop there at the border 
> and wait a long time for everything to be unloaded and reloaded on 
> trains on the other side of the border to fit the width and features of 
> the rail belonging to that side. This had been done before Stalin had 
> become a problem for Iran. It was great thinking indeed, providing every 
> opportunity to neutralize those supplies sitting like a duck right there 
> at the border if needed.

That may be true but not for the reason you state. Iran uses standard 
gauge railroads (1435mm) while the Soviet Union used their own standard 
1520mm gauge. It was a problem for all cross border rail traffic to/from 
the USSR (and still is).

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#836635 — Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran.

Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran,
lit up 731 banks & 140 government sites.

People won't tolerate it, not even in America.

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#836636 — Re: Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran.

On 11/24/2021 4:49 AM, Jeff-Relf.Me@. wrote:
> Stagflation at the end of 2019, in Iran,
> lit up 731 banks & 140 government sites.
> 
> People won't tolerate it, not even in America.
> 
What, if anything, does this have to do with physics?

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#836516

On 11/21/2021 12:43 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> This is what happened: When matters of that particular war got critical 
> around 1942


I meant 1941, not 1942. 1942 saw defeat of Germans in Stalingrad.

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#836522

On 11/21/2021 12:43 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> So Americans and British governments began asking Iran to let the 
> north-south railway system from Persian Gulf to Caucasus be used by 
> Allies to help shift the war in favor of Stalin. Here, at this most 
> complicated stage, Ace played his hands again and began another plan, a 
> plan of his own (Reza Shah was left outside of it)


The reason Ace could not involve Reza Shah had to do with the latter's 
exceptional military character (Reza Shah had been the best military 
commander of Ahmad Shah). Previously, in early 1920s Ace and Reza Shah 
had played a similar role over Ahmad Shah's abdication, but that one 
involved Ahmad Shah's own knowledge and approval and participation into 
the plan. He, Ahmad Shah, had seen it necessary for existence of Iran 
(under Curzon's pressure) to carry out this well-designed plan. It 
essentially fooled Curzon into thinking resistance against him will get 
_diminished_ by that cause Ahmad Shah, his number one enemy, would get 
out of the way,  while in fact Curson lost any influence he could exert 
in Iran (via south, using certain armed tribes that still practiced 100% 
dependence on livestock).

But doing a similar trick with Reza Shah's own involvement and knowledge 
was absolutely impossible because it involved deliberately disabling 
Iran's own military in time of war! Something that you could not make 
Reza Shah do even if you literally held a shotgun to his head. Simply 
impossible. The man loved Iran from head to toe and had seen his entire 
life how military is the only force Iran possessed to defend herself 
with. He was the one who modernized Iran's military based on his own 
experiences and wisdom, not what Europeans had done to theirs. His 
experiences panned the years 1908 (defeat of Russians in Tehran) all the 
way to that moment and one thing he had made sure to do for posterity 
was to instill all such knowledge and important facts in his son, the 
later Shah.

In short, Reza Shah would have The Ace shot immediately after disclosing 
the plan to him. No question there whatsoever. Indeed in August of 1941 
when he was told about what had been done after the fact, moments before 
his arrest, he had pulled his pistol out to kill the messenger (one of 
Ace's men) but Ace had of course foreseen it. Without actually doing it, 
he'd told the messenger to tell Reza Shah that his son and other family 
members will lose their lives if Reza Shah shot him. Reza Shah placed 
the pistol on a table and surrendered to the messenger and from there to 
the Allies.

So this latter plan had to be carried out without his knowledge. 
Although it thoroughly looked like treason, and in Reza Shah's mind it 
was absolutely nothing but high treason, it was indeed the safest way, 
the correct way, toward Iran's future. Reza Shah was no politician of 
Iranian caliber.

Brits didn't trust Reza Shah if kept inside Iran. He was too popular and 
his military would sacrifice everything to free him. But they couldn't 
touch him either! This same military force with wrong ammo in their 
supply rooms, would find a way to fuck the Brits up. The glorious 
"British Empire"; i.e., the imbecile Churchill, knew that! So they took 
him outside Iran and on to an Island in the middle of the ocean and kept 
him there.

But USA was still apprehensive. They knew what Zahedi was able to do 
even after Reza Shah's departure. So they insisted to have Zahedi also. 
The Ace ok'd it in exchange with yet many more concessions toward 
security of Iran and the way Allies forces behaved inside Iran. Brits 
took Zahedi to Palestine and unlike Reza Shah _imprisoned_ him. He 
actually spent the rest of the WWII inside prison.

Zahedi was added for a very good reason of course. He was the best 
commander Iran's military by then had seen. Extremely intelligent, and 
would not wait one second if his own life would be lost in doing what 
was correct for Iran. Americans feared he was able to correct the losses 
Ace had inflicted on military fast enough to create a couple of years of 
Hell for the Allies. He would! The enemy for him was Stalin, not Hitler.

Even later, much later after the 1953 coup that he had devised and 
conducted against Mosaddegh, Zahedi's house was devoid of a portrait of 
  the new Shah... You could only see Reza Shah's portraits there! He was 
still angry at Shah (then as crown prince he knew of Ace's plans) for 
what they did to Reza Shah and the military men, angry that military had 
been so thoroughly fooled by Ace, and he was the one who, as prime 
minister, insisted SAVAK be built and operational to discover such plans 
before getting realized and not so sheepishly succumb to and be played 
by Aces and the like. Savak was _his_ creation, and again, just like the 
1953 coup a couple of years earlier, fully paid for by the fooled 
Americans :)

Hahhaha :)

Americans were kept (by Zahedi) under the impression that SAVAK would do 
inside Iran what Mossad and CIA combined would do for them in the 
future, free of charge, making things easier :) Hehe :) God you don't 
know _shit_ about where this planet is do you. You don't know who the MH is.

No. Zahedi built SAVAK to safeguard Iran, and Iran only. And he did it 
for many vital reasons. If it wasn't for SAVAK's fooling of CIA in early 
1960s, for just _one_ example of it, Iran would still be a feudal system 
with no way towards a superpower status in the future. But SAVAK changed 
that.

You are feeling Zahedi's touch even today. Yes you! Ask your presidents 
and thinkers alike. Ask whoever fears Iran. Ask yourselves deep down :)

Needless to say, Zahedi made Shah angry on many occasions because Zahedi 
would not necessarily carry out Shah's orders, he was Reza Shah's man, 
not this Shah's man, despite all he'd done to safeguard this Shah's 
crown. This is of course not acceptable in a kingdom. When Shah at last 
asked Zahedi to leave Iran (late 1950s), he immediately followed through 
knowing what was best for Iran. روحت شاد زاهدی






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#836524

On 11/22/2021 1:24 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 11/21/2021 12:43 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> So Americans and British governments began asking Iran to let the 
>> north-south railway system from Persian Gulf to Caucasus be used by 
>> Allies to help shift the war in favor of Stalin. Here, at this most 
>> complicated stage, Ace played his hands again and began another plan, 
>> a plan of his own (Reza Shah was left outside of it)
> 
> 
> The reason Ace could not involve Reza Shah had to do with the latter's 
> exceptional military character (Reza Shah had been the best military 
> commander of Ahmad Shah). Previously, in early 1920s Ace and Reza Shah 
> had played a similar role over Ahmad Shah's abdication, but that one 
> involved Ahmad Shah's own knowledge and approval and participation into 
> the plan. He, Ahmad Shah, had seen it necessary for existence of Iran 
> (under Curzon's pressure) to carry out this well-designed plan. It 
> essentially fooled Curzon into thinking resistance against him will get 
> _diminished_ by that cause Ahmad Shah, his number one enemy, would get 
> out of the way,  while in fact Curson lost any influence he could exert 
> in Iran (via south, using certain armed tribes that still practiced 100% 
> dependence on livestock).
> 
> But doing a similar trick with Reza Shah's own involvement and knowledge 
> was absolutely impossible because it involved deliberately disabling 
> Iran's own military in time of war! Something that you could not make 
> Reza Shah do even if you literally held a shotgun to his head. Simply 
> impossible. The man loved Iran from head to toe and had seen his entire 
> life how military is the only force Iran possessed to defend herself 
> with. He was the one who modernized Iran's military based on his own 
> experiences and wisdom, not what Europeans had done to theirs. His 
> experiences panned the years 1908 (defeat of Russians in Tehran) all the 
> way to that moment and one thing he had made sure to do for posterity 
> was to instill all such knowledge and important facts in his son, the 
> later Shah.
> 
> In short, Reza Shah would have The Ace shot immediately after disclosing 
> the plan to him. No question there whatsoever. Indeed in August of 1941 
> when he was told about what had been done after the fact, moments before 
> his arrest, he had pulled his pistol out to kill the messenger (one of 
> Ace's men) but Ace had of course foreseen it. Without actually doing it, 
> he'd told the messenger to tell Reza Shah that his son and other family 
> members will lose their lives if Reza Shah shot him. Reza Shah placed 
> the pistol on a table and surrendered to the messenger and from there to 
> the Allies.
> 
> So this latter plan had to be carried out without his knowledge. 
> Although it thoroughly looked like treason, and in Reza Shah's mind it 
> was absolutely nothing but high treason, it was indeed the safest way, 
> the correct way, toward Iran's future. Reza Shah was no politician of 
> Iranian caliber.
> 
> Brits didn't trust Reza Shah if kept inside Iran. He was too popular and 
> his military would sacrifice everything to free him. But they couldn't 
> touch him either! This same military force with wrong ammo in their 
> supply rooms, would find a way to fuck the Brits up. The glorious 
> "British Empire"; i.e., the imbecile Churchill, knew that! So they took 
> him outside Iran and on to an Island in the middle of the ocean and kept 
> him there.
> 
> But USA was still apprehensive. They knew what Zahedi was able to do 
> even after Reza Shah's departure. So they insisted to have Zahedi also. 
> The Ace ok'd it in exchange with yet many more concessions toward 
> security of Iran and the way Allies forces behaved inside Iran. Brits 
> took Zahedi to Palestine and unlike Reza Shah _imprisoned_ him. He 
> actually spent the rest of the WWII inside prison.
> 
> Zahedi was added for a very good reason of course. He was the best 
> commander Iran's military by then had seen. Extremely intelligent, and 
> would not wait one second if his own life would be lost in doing what 
> was correct for Iran. Americans feared he was able to correct the losses 
> Ace had inflicted on military fast enough to create a couple of years of 
> Hell for the Allies. He would! The enemy for him was Stalin, not Hitler.
> 
> Even later, much later after the 1953 coup that he had devised and 
> conducted against Mosaddegh, Zahedi's house was devoid of a portrait of 
>   the new Shah... You could only see Reza Shah's portraits there! He was 
> still angry at Shah (then as crown prince he knew of Ace's plans) for 
> what they did to Reza Shah and the military men, angry that military had 
> been so thoroughly fooled by Ace, and he was the one who, as prime 
> minister, insisted SAVAK be built and operational to discover such plans 
> before getting realized and not so sheepishly succumb to and be played 
> by Aces and the like. Savak was _his_ creation, and again, just like the 
> 1953 coup a couple of years earlier, fully paid for by the fooled 
> Americans :)
> 
> Hahhaha :)
> 
> Americans were kept (by Zahedi) under the impression that SAVAK would do 
> inside Iran what Mossad and CIA combined would do for them in the 
> future, free of charge, making things easier :) Hehe :) God you don't 
> know _shit_ about where this planet is do you. You don't know who the MH 
> is.
> 
> No. Zahedi built SAVAK to safeguard Iran, and Iran only. And he did it 
> for many vital reasons. If it wasn't for SAVAK's fooling of CIA in early 
> 1960s, for just _one_ example of it, Iran would still be a feudal system 
> with no way towards a superpower status in the future. But SAVAK changed 
> that.
> 
> You are feeling Zahedi's touch even today. Yes you! Ask your presidents 
> and thinkers alike. Ask whoever fears Iran. Ask yourselves deep down :)
> 
> Needless to say, Zahedi made Shah angry on many occasions because Zahedi 
> would not necessarily carry out Shah's orders, he was Reza Shah's man, 
> not this Shah's man, despite all he'd done to safeguard this Shah's 
> crown. This is of course not acceptable in a kingdom. When Shah at last 
> asked Zahedi to leave Iran (late 1950s), he immediately followed through 
> knowing what was best for Iran. روحت شاد زاهدی
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Zahedi triumphant right after three days of Hell defeating Mosaddegh in 
the August 1953:

https://macleodpost.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/08/fazlollah-zahedi-carl-mydans-life.jpg?w=464

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#836641

On 11/22/2021 1:24 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> Previously, in early 1920s Ace and Reza Shah had played a similar role 
> over Ahmad Shah's abdication, but that one involved Ahmad Shah's own 
> knowledge and approval and participation into the plan. He, Ahmad Shah, 
> had seen it necessary for existence of Iran (under Curzon's pressure) to 
> carry out this well-designed plan. It essentially fooled Curzon into 
> thinking resistance against him will get _diminished_ by that cause 
> Ahmad Shah, his number one enemy, would get out of the way,  while in 
> fact Curson lost any influence he could exert in Iran


This is why Ahmad Shah's family referred to him as "Shaheed" (martyr) 
when at the age of only around 30 British government cowards poisoned 
him in France.

He was indeed interred not inside Iran but in the area surrounding 
Hoseyn's Shrine (Son of Ali, the fourth Caliph) who symbolizes martyrdom 
for Iranians.

Iranians have some scores to settle with Britain. That's what runs the 
fear of Iran in seemingly "American" efforts towards that end. Americans 
don't give a damn about Iran being nuke capable or not. It doesn't 
pertain them one bit. It's the coward Brits behind all such efforts. 
They know what's coming to them. Carter didn't fear a nuclear-capable 
Iran. He feared a superpower the size of the entire middle east! One 
with every imaginable form of raw material in the hands of top Iranian 
and Jewish scientists! Read the comments he made. "I don't want another 
Japan the size of the middle east!"

We haven't been done with Curzon yet. There's more stuff in the future 
of Britain stemming from his acts towards Iran in those years. 9 million 
Iranians indirectly perished by Curzon's actions inside Iran. This score 
hasn't been settled yet. So guess who's behind all this "nuke" hoopla.

Ahmad Shah was only 8 years old when he assumed Crown in 1908 after 
brilliant defeat of Russians in the Battle of Tehran. But by the time he 
selflessly used himself in Ace's plot, he was one of the most educated, 
trained, knowledgeable, and resourceful Shah Iran had ever seen. 
Curzon's mistake was that he imagined everything against him in Iran was 
coming from this young bright man :) Right there, an Ace, would step in 
to put that faulty calculation into good use, sweetie.

Ahmad Shah was part of the same plan that would have him abdicate the 
crown. He was the best that his dynasty in Iran had seen. Extremely 
intelligent and yet losing not one moment to sacrifice himself for Iran. 
He took a picture of himself as king right before abdicating, and 
another one right after reaching France as a mere Iranian civilian. Look 
at him and understand what Iran is to Iranians.

Immediately before abdication in Tehran:

https://c7.alamy.com/comp/KWCXP9/ahmad-shah-qajar-the-last-shah-of-the-qajar-dynasty-that-ruled-iran-KWCXP9.jpg


Right after abdication in Paris:

http://www.iichs.ir/Upload/Image/139310/Orginal/26675d11_f73d_4054_8741_f92bd58b6a16.jpg



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#836657

On 11/21/2021 12:43 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Ok, so far:

Analytics Compartment Of Brain (ACOB):
-------------------------------------

* functions:

  - Substitution
    Example 1: CH getting fired means "calamity"
    Example 2: demography of junkies is almost pure CH
    Example 3: meaningful physical activity vs idiotic movements
    Example 4: Martin Luther's 2nd downgrading of Christianity to fit CH
    Example 5: CH difficulty to emigre
    Example 6: my moving to USA
    Example 7: from dollar to cryptocurrency
    Example 8: MH invention of writing
    Example 9: destroying Greek MH advances
    Example 10: Dark Ages: Descend to CH earlier human's roots
    Example 11: Christianity's 1st downgrading of Mithraism to fit CH
    Example 12: Inability to leave CH group despite free houses offered
    Example 13: CH settlement in America only after European MH settled
    Example 14: Adoption of Islam
    Example 15: Mongols' adoption of cultures superior to theirs
    Example 16: Ahmad Shah's ability to change to a civilian life

  - Solving The Right Problem (STRP)
    Example 1: war instead of trade
    Example 2: Roman Empire issue
    Example 3: Russian Empire issue
    Example 4: War with Mongols entailing STRP on both sides
    Example 5: Solving the Mongols issue after defeat
    Example 6: Hitler vs Jews
    Example 7: Martin Luther vs Jews
    Example 8: Islam entailing STRP for many difficult problems
    Example 9: Polygamy as legal and moral practice
    Example 10: Problem of gender exceptions
    Example 11: Prostitutes' Rights
    Example 12: Ahmad Shah abdicating the throne
    Example 13: Curzon's inability to solve the "Persian Question"
    Example 14: Curzon's attempts to solve imaginary problems instead
    Example 15: Ace attacked the Right Problem, not fringe issues
    Example 16: Ace traded fringe issues for solutions to Right Problems
    Example 17: Ace's "high treason" best solution to the Right Problem
    Example 18: Circa 1935 enemy for Iran was Stalin, not Hitler
    Example 19: Circa 1935 Iran's STRP was via Hitler and no one else
    Example 20: Ace understood Iran's railroad was STRP for Allies
    Example 21: Zahedi's STRP in creation of SAVAK
    Example 22: Shah's STRP in removal of feudal system


  - Atoning


* attributes:

  - Secrecy
    Example 1: Curzon's silence on Indians
    Example 2: Iran's open doors
    Example 3: American Natives open doors
    Example 4: U.S. Navy's open doors
    Example 5: U.S. embassy in Tehran, August 1953
    Example 6: destroying original "Persia and the Persian Question"
    Example 7: modern day hidden "Monastery" collections
    Example 8: Brits hiding behind Americans to limit Iran's power

  - Predictability
    Example 1: Role of Caucasus MH in October 1917 Revolution in Russia
    Example 2: Ahmad Shah's League Of Nations threat to British Empire
    Example 3: Qualifying Exam Scores, Chinese MH is most unpridictable
    Example 4: Consequences of Carter's plan against Shah and Israel
    Example 5: USA's failures in Korea, Vietnam, Afghanestan, and Syria
    Example 6: CIA's assessment of Iran: "Island of Stability" circa 1978
    Example 7: CIA's gathered MH data useless in predicting the MH
    Example 8: CIA's gathered CH data very useful in predicting the CH
    Example 9: Sci.physics CH failure in predicting me for 20 years
    Example 10: One CH reveals everything about the group he belongs
    Example 11: One MH reveals nothing about any other MH
    Example 12: Simple opinion polls work only for CH population
    Example 13: Jewish use of polls from MH to juice CH fools
    Example 14: Hitler's failure in predicting Iran's role
    Example 15: 1949 inability of CH Soviets to predict Shah and Iran
    Example 16: CIA's blunder in predicting Iran's STRP of feudal system


A bit about Zahedi's SAVAK:

SAVAK was no joke! CIA and Mossad were "jokes" in comparison. CIA is 
nothing but a university that conducts research in a limited way only. 
It gathers data then analyzes such data, then reports the results to 
Washington. The rest is up to government and what people backing those 
governments want. The only reason you can't simply apply and become 
student of that university is that it happens to only deal with 
classified data, so you must have some pre-existing qualifications that 
have nothing to do with your IQ. Unclassified data are being already 
analyzed by many other universities as we know. But an establishment 
needed to form to deal with classified data. Hence the CIA.

Mossad? The same type of entity. They gather data and they analyze it. 
They're good though! They actually know what they're doing. They are MH, 
remember that. Quality-wise CIA _is_ a "joke" in comparison.

And both CIA and Mossad have some unimportant paramilitary operation 
department on the side. Nothing significant. It comes handy on very rare 
situations only. Such departments are nothing but some desks and some 
bureaucrats who have a list of private security firms. And a budget to 
work under.

That's the entirety of what CIA and Mossad have always been. SAVAK was 
no such thing!

SAVAK had 11 huge separate departments to it, each consisting of vast 
data gathering centers and their own state of the art thinking centers 
as well! It didn't just analyze. These independent centers, taken 
together, created a gigantic thinking machine. CIA or just about any 
intelligence entity in the world were no match for it in years from 1958 
to about 1969. In that particular period it outsmarted every thinking 
centers around the world which had something going on with Iran.

Only around 1969 it began to fail. How? Shah in his removal of feudal 
system 5 years earlier had created important enemies among large land 
owners. These land owners were resourceful and in just 5 or 6 years 
totally penetrated SAVAK and invaded it. From then on, SAVAK was indeed 
working against the Shah without letting him know that.

Carter's success in destroying the Shah and Israel's plans was only on 
the account of these frustrated land owners and the SAVAK which now they 
controlled. All Carter needed to do was to give them the slightest go 
ahead sign. That's why Carter could deliver his ultimatum to Shah in 
December of 1977.

Fact is, the land reform couldn't get done any other way. SAVAK had to 
fool Americans and the Brits into thinking relationship with Iran would 
get simpler and faster and easier to manipulate because instead of 
conferring with many centers of power in Iran it could lead to 
conferring with Shah alone! When they got thus fooled and stepped back 
and only watched, Shah began the hardest feat of his ruling years in 
Iran, first having SAVAK fool the land owners into accepting legal basis 
of his reforms (they were led to think like any other bullshit passed in 
the parliament it would not mean anything beyond a piece of paper) and 
then by fooling the clergy (which always had ties to these land owners) 
into saying "People don't want these reforms", thus falling into the 
trap that Shah (and SAVAK) had set for them, a referendum!

As soon as the time became ripe, Shah suggested a referendum to see 
people want these reforms or not! Obviously all the Iranians other than 
land owners and the clergy voted "yes" to it. Shah got loose on the land 
owners lands!

The price of this important movement, one which had been due for decades 
and decades, was the resentment that it created among the land owners 
and the clergy. Land owners later accepted any term from Carter as long 
as Shah would get toppled, and clergy would accept Carter's condition to 
cut ties with Israel in exchange for filling up the power centers.

When I go over to what happened in those decades, I see no grave 
mistakes on the side of the Shah. He did the best that could be done for 
Iran. And land owners had reasons to be so vicious against the Shah. And 
the clergy had lost everything in that land reform, much more thoroughly 
than the land owners. The combination caused what we now know as history 
of Iran since 1960.

It was all because Zahedi and Shah knew that in order to have a path to 
a superpower status for Iran in the future, feudalism in Iran must first 
go.

The next step after those reforms was of course collaboration with 
Israel. Israelis already at the time of Dayan's travel to Iran in 1962 
knew that they'd be soon a nuclear power in the middle east. Dayan 
discussed it with Shah and the plans began then and there! That is why 
Jews let you CH go at last, after 1962 (and until end of 1977). Jews had 
decided on another path to future that involved a superpower middle 
east. It was the only condition under which they'd let you CH go free.

Well, Carter changed that in late 1977, so some form of Hell got loose 
on you CH dimwits that you have still not figured out exactly what it 
is. What _can_ you see slightly better now is that your affairs in the 
future would not be same as what you enjoyed in the past. Your children 
will face a very different future.











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On 11/24/2021 12:44 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> As soon as the time became ripe, Shah suggested a referendum to see 
> people want these reforms or not! Obviously all the Iranians other than 
> land owners and the clergy voted "yes" to it. Shah got loose on the land 
> owners lands!


This seemingly simple design was more intricate than this of course. I 
know the details of it very well but these stuff, beyond what I already 
put down, are too good for you to know. It'd be feeding pigs Yubari King 
Melons. Your "Iran Experts" are as helpless as my neighbor's pet raccoon 
in understanding them also. So are your CIA and other intelligence 
organizations. MH on MH processes are beyond you CH dimwits.

But doesn't hurt to add that in a certain way the clergy could be 
considered "land owners" of their own back then. They needed such lands 
given to Mosques for one of their sources of income for their religious 
schools. Two other sources of income they had were teaching all the 
basic education for entire public (maktab khAneh), and getting paid as 
judges for their legal services.

Shah's comprehensive plan didn't just include land reform! It replaced 
the judicial structure and the public school system as well! So clergy 
was left with nothing. A big problem that Shah wasn't let to solve 
because this time all these resourceful land owners wanted him out. So 
it should've been obvious where things were going, except for one thing! 
It was a task that more than anything else needed SAVAK for its 
solution. Too bad this time around SAVAK itself was being penetrated by 
ex land owners' men.

So land owners jumped in and prevented Shah from remedying the 
situation, helping, and attending to the carnage he had left behind 
after he was done with first major steps of his comprehensive reforms. 
That's how, in the absence of those other means of approach Shah had 
taken (with Israel and taking up the whole middle east as one) to solve 
all these problems, after Carter prevented him from that, these 
unfinished matters inside Iran got time to catch up with him and defeat 
him.


When I look at it I see no party guilty of anything in all that except 
Carter. This son of a bitch lowly "grunt" of a service man from the 
other side of the world stepped in and fucked it up. And you are and 
will be paying for it. I promise you that :)


But why "Carter" could _happen_ in the first place? :-) What is the 
solution for THAT?.. That's when things get interesting for the MH to 
handle, sweeties.








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