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| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| First post | 2025-05-18 17:23 -0700 |
| Last post | 2025-06-21 15:45 -0700 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 231 — 22 participants |
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"The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 17:23 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-18 21:27 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 08:58 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-19 22:46 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 16:57 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-20 08:21 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 17:07 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-20 22:27 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-05-24 23:56 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-26 08:03 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-05-26 10:47 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-27 09:07 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-27 21:37 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-28 08:02 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 12:00 -0500
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 17:11 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-05-31 08:41 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-05-31 17:28 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-01 09:39 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 17:57 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 18:49 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 18:49 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-03 09:11 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:41 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:55 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 06:17 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-03 14:45 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-04 08:05 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-02 01:02 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-01 00:55 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-01 00:26 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-02 17:43 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-06 00:03 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 01:28 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-07 12:35 -0500
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-07 23:44 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-09 07:04 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-08 23:49 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-10 06:56 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-10 18:23 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-11 08:01 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-13 10:14 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-14 09:03 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-14 01:23 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-15 10:08 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 09:03 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 12:58 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:38 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:56 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:55 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-19 10:02 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:13 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-19 08:54 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:41 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-19 01:07 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-20 09:17 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:00 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-20 12:07 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-20 12:40 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-21 09:22 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-21 00:50 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:09 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:25 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:41 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 10:20 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-25 11:27 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 08:04 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 09:19 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:28 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-21 09:19 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-24 12:14 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-24 03:28 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-24 10:02 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-27 07:39 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-27 06:04 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-27 09:18 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 10:16 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" J Carlson <notgenx32@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 11:38 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-27 13:13 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-28 18:32 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-28 10:12 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:25 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:38 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:35 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-25 09:40 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-25 09:47 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 16:31 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-13 22:23 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-14 08:35 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-07-14 16:58 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-15 20:23 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-07-15 16:45 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-15 01:50 +0000
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-19 18:15 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 01:27 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 09:02 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-21 19:12 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-21 23:06 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:21 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 11:24 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 13:03 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 14:46 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-23 16:31 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:41 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:38 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 11:25 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-23 22:03 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 14:04 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-23 15:37 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-23 15:46 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-24 13:00 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:51 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-25 14:11 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:35 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:42 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:46 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:49 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 21:17 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:26 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-27 13:39 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:57 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 14:33 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:04 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" squalk <sq@net.inv> - 2025-07-28 00:05 +0100
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 17:03 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-25 19:33 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:44 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:01 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 15:29 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-07-27 13:00 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-07-27 17:33 +0000
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-27 11:06 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2025-07-27 11:40 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:38 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 21:43 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 19:51 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-07-27 23:34 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-28 01:47 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-08-02 23:47 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-07-28 20:43 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "chine.bleu" <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-07-14 04:01 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:09 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-21 13:11 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-20 15:13 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-23 22:41 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 11:11 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-24 13:15 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-25 22:12 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-26 00:42 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-07-26 12:02 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 14:43 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2025-07-27 10:22 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-07-27 13:37 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" x <x@x.net> - 2025-07-26 13:53 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-30 22:56 -0500
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 09:49 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 12:58 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 18:09 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 14:09 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 15:08 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 12:39 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-16 17:37 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:36 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 10:08 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Mitchell Holman <noemail@aol.com> - 2025-06-15 17:52 +0000
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:44 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-06-18 22:17 -0600
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-15 11:25 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> - 2025-06-15 16:32 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-15 17:59 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:46 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:04 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" OrigInfoJunkie <bondrock@att.net> - 2025-06-18 09:30 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:00 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-06-18 06:56 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-17 07:44 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 23:02 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2025-06-17 20:05 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-16 03:40 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-15 18:44 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 09:46 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-16 16:58 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-06-17 00:58 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-06-18 10:23 +0200
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-18 13:06 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-18 15:41 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Siri Cruz <chine.bleu@yahoo.com> - 2025-06-18 13:58 -0700
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 06:12 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" Chris Ahlstrom <OFeem1987@teleworm.us> - 2025-06-19 07:12 -0400
Re: "The Day The Earth Stood Still" "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-06-19 12:28 -0700
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-18 17:23 -0700 |
| Subject | "The Day The Earth Stood Still" |
| Message-ID | <682A7A04.6ED6@ix.netcom.com> |
Albert Einstein was the director, the producer and the screenwriter of the movie entitled "The Day The Earth Stood Still" 1951.
Of course Albert Einstein used a ghostwriter (which in those day that is what the 'communists' writers did)
Here is a link to the movie script:
https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/the_day_the_earth_stood_still.html
Here is the full free movie:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh8P4MIaZBA
https://archive.org/details/The.Day.The.Earth.Stood.Still1951
First , where did the Albert Einstein get the idea of the title of the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" ????
Since Albert Einstein is the designer and architect of 'The Atomic Bomb', and launched The Manhattan Project,
Albert Einstein got the idea from an incident mentioned in the newspapers at his time:
"In support of this there are stories of the experiences of automobile drivers in the vicinity of Los Alamos.
According to these their radios and motors stopped suddenly at the same instant and after 15 or 20 minutes suddenly began to operate as usual."
https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/20/worst-manhattan-project-leaks/
https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1944-Cleveland-Press-Forbidden-City.pdf
KLAATU
(after a moment,
quietly)
You see -- the electricity's been
neutralized -- all over the world.
The impact of this calm, quiet statement is shattering. Helen
stares at him awe-struck. Then she speaks numbly, almost
inaudibly.
HELEN
Bobby was telling the truth -- wasn't
he?
Klaatu stares at her evenly, as we--
DISSOLVE TO:
MED. SHOT - STREET
All vehicular traffic in the street is at a dead stop.
Automobiles, busses, trolley cars -- all are stalled. Drivers
and passengers are climbing out of the vehicles in utter
bewilderment. Except for the people, it is as though the
street had been frozen in motion.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-18 21:27 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <682AB323.34C1@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #892785 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > Albert Einstein was the director, the producer and the screenwriter of the movie entitled "The Day The Earth Stood Still" 1951. > > Of course Albert Einstein used a ghostwriter (which in those day that is what the 'communists' writers did) > > Here is a link to the movie script: > > https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/the_day_the_earth_stood_still.html > > Here is the full free movie: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh8P4MIaZBA > > https://archive.org/details/The.Day.The.Earth.Stood.Still1951 > > First , where did the Albert Einstein get the idea of the title of the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" ???? > > Since Albert Einstein is the designer and architect of 'The Atomic Bomb', and launched The Manhattan Project, > > Albert Einstein got the idea from an incident mentioned in the newspapers at his time: > > "In support of this there are stories of the experiences of automobile drivers in the vicinity of Los Alamos. > According to these their radios and motors stopped suddenly at the same instant and after 15 or 20 minutes suddenly began to operate as usual." > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/20/worst-manhattan-project-leaks/ > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1944-Cleveland-Press-Forbidden-City.pdf > > KLAATU > (after a moment, > quietly) > You see -- the electricity's been > neutralized -- all over the world. > > The impact of this calm, quiet statement is shattering. Helen > stares at him awe-struck. Then she speaks numbly, almost > inaudibly. > > HELEN > Bobby was telling the truth -- wasn't > he? > > Klaatu stares at her evenly, as we-- > > DISSOLVE TO: > > MED. SHOT - STREET > > All vehicular traffic in the street is at a dead stop. > Automobiles, busses, trolley cars -- all are stalled. Drivers > and passengers are climbing out of the vehicles in utter > bewilderment. Except for the people, it is as though the > street had been frozen in motion. > Albert Einstein speaks through two characters, KLAATU and Proffesor Bernhart -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-19 08:58 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <682B552E.5518@ix.netcom.com> |
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The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > Albert Einstein was the director, the producer and the screenwriter of the movie entitled "The Day The Earth Stood Still" 1951. > > > > Of course Albert Einstein used a ghostwriter (which in those day that is what the 'communists' writers did) > > > > Here is a link to the movie script: > > > > https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/the_day_the_earth_stood_still.html > > > > Here is the full free movie: > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh8P4MIaZBA > > > > https://archive.org/details/The.Day.The.Earth.Stood.Still1951 > > > > First , where did the Albert Einstein get the idea of the title of the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" ???? > > > > Since Albert Einstein is the designer and architect of 'The Atomic Bomb', and launched The Manhattan Project, > > > > Albert Einstein got the idea from an incident mentioned in the newspapers at his time: > > > > "In support of this there are stories of the experiences of automobile drivers in the vicinity of Los Alamos. > > According to these their radios and motors stopped suddenly at the same instant and after 15 or 20 minutes suddenly began to operate as usual." > > > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/20/worst-manhattan-project-leaks/ > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1944-Cleveland-Press-Forbidden-City.pdf > > > > KLAATU > > (after a moment, > > quietly) > > You see -- the electricity's been > > neutralized -- all over the world. > > > > The impact of this calm, quiet statement is shattering. Helen > > stares at him awe-struck. Then she speaks numbly, almost > > inaudibly. > > > > HELEN > > Bobby was telling the truth -- wasn't > > he? > > > > Klaatu stares at her evenly, as we-- > > > > DISSOLVE TO: > > > > MED. SHOT - STREET > > > > All vehicular traffic in the street is at a dead stop. > > Automobiles, busses, trolley cars -- all are stalled. Drivers > > and passengers are climbing out of the vehicles in utter > > bewilderment. Except for the people, it is as though the > > street had been frozen in motion. > > > > Albert Einstein speaks through two characters, KLAATU and Proffesor > Bernhart Second, what about "Klaatu barada nikto"? Where did that come from?? Everyone in the media already asked the 'listed' scriptwriter the question...and he has no answer for them! Of course he has no answer...he didn't come up with it. You would have to ask Albert Einstein. He came up with it! Professor Jacob Barnhardt, world-famous scientist and Nobel Prize winner Here are the links to Albert Einstein: Professor Jacob Barnhardt (Jacob is a Hebrew name) Barnhardt ( Barnhardt is a German name) Albert Einstein is Jewish and from Germany. world-famous scientist (in the 50's that would be Einstein) and Nobel Prize winner (Albert Einstein was a Nobel Prize winner) and this is just the beginninng of the list! (besides that it's based on Albert Einstein, the real Professor Bernhart, with that crazy hairdo) "Klaatu barada nikto"???? Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-19 22:46 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <682C1727.7A13@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #892794 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > Albert Einstein was the director, the producer and the screenwriter of the movie entitled "The Day The Earth Stood Still" 1951. > > > > > > Of course Albert Einstein used a ghostwriter (which in those day that is what the 'communists' writers did) > > > > > > Here is a link to the movie script: > > > > > > https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/the_day_the_earth_stood_still.html > > > > > > Here is the full free movie: > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh8P4MIaZBA > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/The.Day.The.Earth.Stood.Still1951 > > > > > > First , where did the Albert Einstein get the idea of the title of the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" ???? > > > > > > Since Albert Einstein is the designer and architect of 'The Atomic Bomb', and launched The Manhattan Project, > > > > > > Albert Einstein got the idea from an incident mentioned in the newspapers at his time: > > > > > > "In support of this there are stories of the experiences of automobile drivers in the vicinity of Los Alamos. > > > According to these their radios and motors stopped suddenly at the same instant and after 15 or 20 minutes suddenly began to operate as usual." > > > > > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/20/worst-manhattan-project-leaks/ > > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1944-Cleveland-Press-Forbidden-City.pdf > > > > > > KLAATU > > > (after a moment, > > > quietly) > > > You see -- the electricity's been > > > neutralized -- all over the world. > > > > > > The impact of this calm, quiet statement is shattering. Helen > > > stares at him awe-struck. Then she speaks numbly, almost > > > inaudibly. > > > > > > HELEN > > > Bobby was telling the truth -- wasn't > > > he? > > > > > > Klaatu stares at her evenly, as we-- > > > > > > DISSOLVE TO: > > > > > > MED. SHOT - STREET > > > > > > All vehicular traffic in the street is at a dead stop. > > > Automobiles, busses, trolley cars -- all are stalled. Drivers > > > and passengers are climbing out of the vehicles in utter > > > bewilderment. Except for the people, it is as though the > > > street had been frozen in motion. > > > > > > > Albert Einstein speaks through two characters, KLAATU and Proffesor > > Bernhart > > Second, what about "Klaatu barada nikto"? Where did that come from?? > > Everyone in the media already asked the 'listed' scriptwriter the question...and he has no answer for them! > > Of course he has no answer...he didn't come up with it. You would have to ask Albert Einstein. He came up with it! > > Professor Jacob Barnhardt, world-famous scientist > and Nobel Prize winner > > Here are the links to Albert Einstein: > > Professor > > Jacob Barnhardt (Jacob is a Hebrew name) > > Barnhardt ( Barnhardt is a German name) > > Albert Einstein is Jewish and from Germany. > > world-famous scientist (in the 50's that would be Einstein) > > and Nobel Prize winner (Albert Einstein was a Nobel Prize winner) > > and this is just the beginninng of the list! (besides that it's based on Albert Einstein, > the real Professor Bernhart, with that crazy hairdo) > > "Klaatu barada nikto"???? > > Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! > > KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. Now, just reading or hearing KLAATU's dialogue you can tell it's Albert Einstein's voice that sending 'his message' through KLATU... there is one scene where KLAATU tells the boy Bobby.."Remind me tomorrow and I'll tell you about trains that run without tracks." (in the movie, not in the script) Did you know it was Albert Einstein that invented trains that don't need tracks to run? (reverse electromagnetism something like that) I heard the chinks gots trains that don't need tracks... -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| Date | 2025-05-20 16:57 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #892800 |
The Starmaker wrote: > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > The Starmaker wrote: > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein was the director, the producer and the screenwriter of the movie entitled "The Day The Earth Stood Still" 1951. > > > > > > > > Of course Albert Einstein used a ghostwriter (which in those day that is what the 'communists' writers did) > > > > > > > > Here is a link to the movie script: > > > > > > > > https://www.dailyscript.com/scripts/the_day_the_earth_stood_still.html > > > > > > > > Here is the full free movie: > > > > > > > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xh8P4MIaZBA > > > > > > > > https://archive.org/details/The.Day.The.Earth.Stood.Still1951 > > > > > > > > First , where did the Albert Einstein get the idea of the title of the movie "The Day The Earth Stood Still" ???? > > > > > > > > Since Albert Einstein is the designer and architect of 'The Atomic Bomb', and launched The Manhattan Project, > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein got the idea from an incident mentioned in the newspapers at his time: > > > > > > > > "In support of this there are stories of the experiences of automobile drivers in the vicinity of Los Alamos. > > > > According to these their radios and motors stopped suddenly at the same instant and after 15 or 20 minutes suddenly began to operate as usual." > > > > > > > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/2013/09/20/worst-manhattan-project-leaks/ > > > > https://blog.nuclearsecrecy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/1944-Cleveland-Press-Forbidden-City.pdf > > > > > > > > KLAATU > > > > (after a moment, > > > > quietly) > > > > You see -- the electricity's been > > > > neutralized -- all over the world. > > > > > > > > The impact of this calm, quiet statement is shattering. Helen > > > > stares at him awe-struck. Then she speaks numbly, almost > > > > inaudibly. > > > > > > > > HELEN > > > > Bobby was telling the truth -- wasn't > > > > he? > > > > > > > > Klaatu stares at her evenly, as we-- > > > > > > > > DISSOLVE TO: > > > > > > > > MED. SHOT - STREET > > > > > > > > All vehicular traffic in the street is at a dead stop. > > > > Automobiles, busses, trolley cars -- all are stalled. Drivers > > > > and passengers are climbing out of the vehicles in utter > > > > bewilderment. Except for the people, it is as though the > > > > street had been frozen in motion. > > > > > > > > > > Albert Einstein speaks through two characters, KLAATU and Proffesor > > > Bernhart > > > > Second, what about "Klaatu barada nikto"? Where did that come from?? > > > > Everyone in the media already asked the 'listed' scriptwriter the question...and he has no answer for them! > > > > Of course he has no answer...he didn't come up with it. You would have to ask Albert Einstein. He came up with it! > > > > Professor Jacob Barnhardt, world-famous scientist > > and Nobel Prize winner > > > > Here are the links to Albert Einstein: > > > > Professor > > > > Jacob Barnhardt (Jacob is a Hebrew name) > > > > Barnhardt ( Barnhardt is a German name) > > > > Albert Einstein is Jewish and from Germany. > > > > world-famous scientist (in the 50's that would be Einstein) > > > > and Nobel Prize winner (Albert Einstein was a Nobel Prize winner) > > > > and this is just the beginninng of the list! (besides that it's based on Albert Einstein, > > the real Professor Bernhart, with that crazy hairdo) > > > > "Klaatu barada nikto"???? > > > > Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! > > > > KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. > > Now, just reading or hearing KLAATU's dialogue you can tell it's Albert > Einstein's voice that sending 'his message' through KLATU... > > there is one scene where KLAATU tells the boy Bobby.."Remind me tomorrow > and I'll tell you about trains that run without tracks." > (in the movie, not in the script) > > Did you know it was Albert Einstein that invented trains that don't need > tracks to run? > > (reverse electromagnetism something like that) > > I heard the chinks gots trains that don't need tracks... Now since KLAATU (Einstein's character) mentioned in 1951 trains that run without tracks" , it's up to you to figure who came out with that idea first. MAGLEV -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-05-20 08:21 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m92l7vF6av9U7@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #892794 |
Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker: > "Klaatu barada nikto"???? > > Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! > > > KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. This is not German! I have read, that this sentence means: God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-20 17:07 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <682D194E.150E@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #892801 |
Thomas Heger wrote:
>
> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker:
> > "Klaatu barada nikto"????
> >
> > Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!!
> >
> >
> > KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language.
>
> This is not German!
>
> I have read, that this sentence means:
>
> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?).
>
> TH
You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German
is speled Klass or Klaus meaning as the charater is portrayed..."victory of the people".
Your comment "God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?)." refers to the robot...GORT,
and GORT is meaning is GOD. and it is complete opposite! "He could destroy the Earth."
HELEN
Gort?
(puzzled)
But he's a robot. I mean -- without
you, what could he do?
KLAATU
(slowly)
There's no limit to what he could
do. He could destroy the Earth.
(with great urgency)
If anything should happen to me, you
must go to Gort. You must give him
this message: "Klaatu barada nikto."
Please repeat that.
I gave you the script, I gave you the movie...can yous not THINK foryourselvesalready!!!!!
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| Date | 2025-05-20 22:27 -0700 |
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"On March 1, 1954, the United States carried out a disastrous hydrogen bomb test, code-named "Castle Bravo," on Bikini Atoll in the Marshall Islands. Intended to be an explosion with a yield of six megatons, it turned out, due to an error in calculation by the scientists involved, to be the largest nuclear explosion ever conducted by the United States, amounting to fifteen megatons-one thou-sand times the explosive power of the bomb dropped on Hiroshima." Trust the Math Trust the Science and they will blow up the Earth! fuck it, right? i mean, who gives a fuck, right? i mean, fuck the people, right? who needs fucking people anyway? You want peace with Russia? BOMB THE FUCK OUT OF THEM! dats Peace. All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance All we are saying is give peace a chance -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2025-05-24 23:56 -0600 |
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| In reply to | #892812 |
The Starmaker wrote: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker: >>> "Klaatu barada nikto"???? >>> >>> Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! >>> >>> >>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. >> >> This is not German! >> >> I have read, that this sentence means: >> >> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). > > You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German Not German. Estonian https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate > is speled Klass or Klaus meaning as the charater is portrayed..."victory of the people". Not a variant of "Klaus" > I gave you the script, I gave you the movie...can yous not THINK foryourselvesalready!!!!! Think on this https://web.archive.org/web/20040628163125/http://www.dreamerwww.com/fanfilm/fanfilm2.htm "The Language of Klaatu"
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-05-26 08:03 +0200 |
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Am Sonntag000025, 25.05.2025 um 07:56 schrieb Gronk: > The Starmaker wrote: >> Thomas Heger wrote: >>> >>> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker: >>>> "Klaatu barada nikto"???? >>>> >>>> Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! >>>> >>>> >>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. >>> >>> This is not German! >>> >>> I have read, that this sentence means: >>> >>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). >> >> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German > > Not German. Estonian > > https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate > 'Klaatu barada nikto" Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' barada is Russian and means 'nobody' nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. ... TH
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| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-26 10:47 -0700 |
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| In reply to | #892902 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > > Am Sonntag000025, 25.05.2025 um 07:56 schrieb Gronk: > > The Starmaker wrote: > >> Thomas Heger wrote: > >>> > >>> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker: > >>>> "Klaatu barada nikto"???? > >>>> > >>>> Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. > >>> > >>> This is not German! > >>> > >>> I have read, that this sentence means: > >>> > >>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). > >> > >> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German > > > > Not German. Estonian > > > > https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate > > > > 'Klaatu barada nikto" > > Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: > > Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' > barada is Russian and means 'nobody' > nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. > > ... > > TH I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in Afganastian!!!! -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-05-27 09:07 +0200 |
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| In reply to | #892906 |
Am Montag000026, 26.05.2025 um 19:47 schrieb The Starmaker: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> Am Sonntag000025, 25.05.2025 um 07:56 schrieb Gronk: >>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker: >>>>>> "Klaatu barada nikto"???? >>>>>> >>>>>> Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. >>>>> >>>>> This is not German! >>>>> >>>>> I have read, that this sentence means: >>>>> >>>>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). >>>> >>>> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German >>> >>> Not German. Estonian >>> >>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate >>> >> >> 'Klaatu barada nikto" >> >> Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: >> >> Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' >> barada is Russian and means 'nobody' >> nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. >> >> ... >> >> TH > > I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in > Afganastian!!!! > I have simply used 'google translator' and used the 'detect language' function. This is usually quite ok and certainly better than my own knowledge of Eastern European languages. I have actually some knowledge, but very little, since foreign languages are not really 'my thing'. I have tried Russian, Czechoslovakian, Hungarian, Lithuanian at some times in the past, but with not very much success. E.g. I can still decipher Cyrillic letters and know a few words in Russian. But that's it. I also have been in Lithuania and wanted to learn that language. But the Baltic languages are REALLY hard to learn. (same with Hungarian). TH
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| From | William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-27 21:37 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1015pbt$2tjj2$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #892911 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Montag000026, 26.05.2025 um 19:47 schrieb The Starmaker: >> Thomas Heger wrote: >>> >>> Am Sonntag000025, 25.05.2025 um 07:56 schrieb Gronk: >>>> The Starmaker wrote: >>>>> Thomas Heger wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Am Montag000019, 19.05.2025 um 17:58 schrieb The Starmaker: >>>>>>> "Klaatu barada nikto"???? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Easy, it comes from Albert Einstein language...German!!!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is not German! >>>>>> >>>>>> I have read, that this sentence means: >>>>>> >>>>>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). >>>>> >>>>> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German >>>> >>>> Not German. Estonian >>>> >>>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate >>>> >>> >>> 'Klaatu barada nikto" >>> >>> Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: >>> >>> Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' >>> barada is Russian and means 'nobody' >>> nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. >>> >>> ... >>> >>> TH >> >> I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in >> Afganastian!!!! >> > > I have simply used 'google translator' and used the 'detect language' > function. > > This is usually quite ok and certainly better than my own knowledge of > Eastern European languages. > > I have actually some knowledge, but very little, since foreign languages > are not really 'my thing'. > > I have tried Russian, Czechoslovakian, Hungarian, Lithuanian at some > times in the past, but with not very much success. > > E.g. I can still decipher Cyrillic letters and know a few words in > Russian. But that's it. > > I also have been in Lithuania and wanted to learn that language. But the > Baltic languages are REALLY hard to learn. (same with Hungarian). They are reconstructing Prussian, so you will soon have four Baltic languages to learn! William Hyde
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-05-28 08:02 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m9nn4aFj62pU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #892916 |
Am Mittwoch000028, 28.05.2025 um 03:37 schrieb William Hyde: >>>>>>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is not German! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have read, that this sentence means: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). >>>>>> >>>>>> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German >>>>> >>>>> Not German. Estonian >>>>> >>>>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate >>>>> >>>> >>>> 'Klaatu barada nikto" >>>> >>>> Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: >>>> >>>> Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' >>>> barada is Russian and means 'nobody' >>>> nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. >>>> >>>> ... >>>> >>>> TH >>> >>> I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in >>> Afganastian!!!! >>> >> >> I have simply used 'google translator' and used the 'detect language' >> function. >> >> This is usually quite ok and certainly better than my own knowledge of >> Eastern European languages. >> >> I have actually some knowledge, but very little, since foreign >> languages are not really 'my thing'. >> >> I have tried Russian, Czechoslovakian, Hungarian, Lithuanian at some >> times in the past, but with not very much success. >> >> E.g. I can still decipher Cyrillic letters and know a few words in >> Russian. But that's it. >> >> I also have been in Lithuania and wanted to learn that language. But >> the Baltic languages are REALLY hard to learn. (same with Hungarian). > > They are reconstructing Prussian, so you will soon have four Baltic > languages to learn! I'm actually living in the former capital of prussia and can assure you, that Prussians speak German. TH >
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| From | Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-28 12:00 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1017fg2$2kca$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #892917 |
On 5/28/25 1:02 AM, Thomas Heger wrote: > I'm actually living in the former capital of prussia > > You mean Königsberg?
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| From | William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-28 17:11 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <1017u6f$3eiv7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #892917 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Mittwoch000028, 28.05.2025 um 03:37 schrieb William Hyde: > >>>>>>>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German language. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is not German! >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have read, that this sentence means: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German >>>>>> >>>>>> Not German. Estonian >>>>>> >>>>>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> 'Klaatu barada nikto" >>>>> >>>>> Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: >>>>> >>>>> Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' >>>>> barada is Russian and means 'nobody' >>>>> nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. >>>>> >>>>> ... >>>>> >>>>> TH >>>> >>>> I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in >>>> Afganastian!!!! >>>> >>> >>> I have simply used 'google translator' and used the 'detect language' >>> function. >>> >>> This is usually quite ok and certainly better than my own knowledge >>> of Eastern European languages. >>> >>> I have actually some knowledge, but very little, since foreign >>> languages are not really 'my thing'. >>> >>> I have tried Russian, Czechoslovakian, Hungarian, Lithuanian at some >>> times in the past, but with not very much success. >>> >>> E.g. I can still decipher Cyrillic letters and know a few words in >>> Russian. But that's it. >>> >>> I also have been in Lithuania and wanted to learn that language. But >>> the Baltic languages are REALLY hard to learn. (same with Hungarian). >> >> They are reconstructing Prussian, so you will soon have four Baltic >> languages to learn! > > I'm actually living in the former capital of prussia and can assure you, > that Prussians speak German. I am talking, as I said above, about reconstructing Prussian, which would be unnecessary if anyone spoke it today. I think you are talking about Berlin, capital of Brandenburg-Prussia, later shortened to "Prussia". I am talking about the original Prussia, later known as "East Prussia". And I can assure you that the aboriginal Prussians did not speak German, but Prussian, a language related to Lithuanian. The descendants of those people now speak German, Polish, or in some cases other languages, but there is a movement to revive the original tongue, using old manuscripts as a start (the bible, I believe, was translated into Prussian). Which was the basis of my quip, above. I don't actually expect that you will have to learn Prussian. Or that anyone will. Germans who inhabited the region centuries later came to be called "Prussians", which was geographically but not ethnically correct, except in as much as some of them had ancestors who were aboriginal Prussians. This sense of the word "Prussian" dominates today to the extent that most people do not know anything of the original Prussians. William Hyde
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 08:41 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <m9vmhlFs3i3U1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #892923 |
Am Mittwoch000028, 28.05.2025 um 23:11 schrieb William Hyde: > Thomas Heger wrote: >> Am Mittwoch000028, 28.05.2025 um 03:37 schrieb William Hyde: >> >>>>>>>>>> KLAATU means I'm the victory of the people in the German >>>>>>>>>> language. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is not German! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have read, that this sentence means: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> God will not destroy the Earth (possibly: this time?). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> You are not thinking like an einstein...Klaatu in German >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Not German. Estonian >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://translate.google.com/?sl=auto&tl=en&text=klaatu&op=translate >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 'Klaatu barada nikto" >>>>>> >>>>>> Seems to be composed from three different Eastern European languages: >>>>>> >>>>>> Klaatu is Estionian and means 'cloak' >>>>>> barada is Russian and means 'nobody' >>>>>> nikto is Slovak and means 'nobody'. >>>>>> >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> TH >>>>> >>>>> I'm surprised you didin't add it is also a name of a cat food brand in >>>>> Afganastian!!!! >>>>> >>>> >>>> I have simply used 'google translator' and used the 'detect >>>> language' function. >>>> >>>> This is usually quite ok and certainly better than my own knowledge >>>> of Eastern European languages. >>>> >>>> I have actually some knowledge, but very little, since foreign >>>> languages are not really 'my thing'. >>>> >>>> I have tried Russian, Czechoslovakian, Hungarian, Lithuanian at some >>>> times in the past, but with not very much success. >>>> >>>> E.g. I can still decipher Cyrillic letters and know a few words in >>>> Russian. But that's it. >>>> >>>> I also have been in Lithuania and wanted to learn that language. But >>>> the Baltic languages are REALLY hard to learn. (same with Hungarian). >>> >>> They are reconstructing Prussian, so you will soon have four Baltic >>> languages to learn! >> >> I'm actually living in the former capital of prussia and can assure >> you, that Prussians speak German. > > I am talking, as I said above, about reconstructing Prussian, which > would be unnecessary if anyone spoke it today. Ok, there was a language called 'Prussian' some time ago, which now has apparently vanished. Well, that seems to be the fate of a large number of small languages around the globe. This has mainly to do with things like 'globalisation' or the internet. Also mobility is much greater today than in ancient times. That's why small languages are slowly fading away. Sorry for that, but that's how this goes. > > I think you are talking about Berlin, capital of Brandenburg-Prussia, > later shortened to "Prussia". I am talking about the original Prussia, > later known as "East Prussia". Well, the former capital of East Prussia was 'Königsberg'. But as far as I know, they spoke German there, too. E.g. Emanuel Kant lived there and I know, that he spoke German. They had a kind of accent an spoke a German dialect in East Prussia, but that was still German. Possibly much earlier, there was an ethnic group, which spoke 'Prussian'. That is actually possible, even if I have never heard about this. > And I can assure you that the aboriginal Prussians did not speak German, > but Prussian, a language related to Lithuanian. > > The descendants of those people now speak German, Polish, or in some > cases other languages, but there is a movement to revive the original > tongue, using old manuscripts as a start (the bible, I believe, was > translated into Prussian). Which was the basis of my quip, above. I > don't actually expect that you will have to learn Prussian. Or that > anyone will. It is an extremely obscure idea, to revitalise an old and vanished language, to honor an ethnicity, which had also vanished. See: there have be tons of wars in what today is Germany. In the so called 30-yeas-war most of Prussia was depopulated. Then there were WW1 and WW2 which depopulated East Prussia totally. Later came polish and Russian people to East Prussia and the Germans/Prussians went to Western Germany. I know some decendents from these refugees and they all speak German and have certainly no incentive to learn Prussian. > Germans who inhabited the region centuries later came to be called > "Prussians", which was geographically but not ethnically correct, except > in as much as some of them had ancestors who were aboriginal Prussians. > This sense of the word "Prussian" dominates today to the extent that > most people do not know anything of the original Prussians. This is a really weired idea and difficult to understand, because it contains the word 'Prussian' with too many meanings. TH
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| From | William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-05-31 17:28 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <101fs9n$1fbrl$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #892946 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Mittwoch000028, 28.05.2025 um 23:11 schrieb William Hyde: ucting Prussian, which >> would be unnecessary if anyone spoke it today. > > Ok, there was a language called 'Prussian' some time ago, which now has > apparently vanished. > > Well, that seems to be the fate of a large number of small languages > around the globe. > > This has mainly to do with things like 'globalisation' or the internet. In this case the language died out long ago. The Prussians were a thorn in the side of the Poles and many attempts were made to conquer them, ending up with a crusade by the Teutonic Order, which succeeded. There was no concerted program to exterminate the language, as far as I can tell, but as in similar circumstances, the language of the conquerors became the language of business, law, and the military, so came to dominate. > Well, the former capital of East Prussia was 'Königsberg'. > But as far as I know, they spoke German there, too. Konigsberg was built on the ruins of an Old Prussian town, so technically only German was spoken there. But for centuries before that foundation, the language spoken in that town was Prussian. For that matter the workers who built the town probably spoke Prussian, Knights not being known for their skill as stonemasons. > > E.g. Emanuel Kant lived there and I know, that he spoke German. Kant may have had some Baltic ancestors on his father's side, but the last known Prussian speakers date from more than a decade before his birth. And I have no reason to believe that his father spoke it. Cornish died out (mostly) a bit later, in the late 1700s, but it has been successfully revived, with many speakers today. The difference being that the Cornish know that they are Cornish, while most people with Old Prussian ancestry think of themselves as Germans, Poles, or Lithuanians. There is a line in "The Tin Drum" where in 1944 an East Prussian resident says "We were here before the Germans or Russians". Whether that's a fabrication on Grass' part or such people existed I do not know. There is no indication that the character speaks Prussian, as far as I can recall. > > They had a kind of accent an spoke a German dialect in East Prussia, but > that was still German. > > Possibly much earlier, there was an ethnic group, which spoke 'Prussian'. > > That is actually possible, even if I have never heard about this. Not possibly, certainly. Have you heard of the Wends? Founders of Berlin (well, sort of)? There are still about 80,000 people, known nown as Sorbs, who speak the language in Germany, mostly in Saxony and Brandenburg. The name "Berlin" itself may come from an old Slavic word for "Swamp". It seems that all European nations have these fascinating minorities somewhere, largely forgotten, sometimes even by their descendants. There is a village in southern Poland where the inhabitants speak an unusual version of German. Their ancestors arrived from the extreme west of Germany hundreds of years ago and their original tongue was strongly influenced by Dutch or perhaps Frisian. Regrettably, I've lost the reference I have for this. > It is an extremely obscure idea, to revitalise an old and vanished > language, to honor an ethnicity, which had also vanished. It may seem obscure to you,but it's actually not that rare. On the one hand there's the desire to save languages that are nearly extinct, on the other to revive languages that have only recently vanished. Comparatively recently, that is. Though - and I cannot stress this enough - nobody has to learn these languages. There is, however, a rock group in Lithuania which has taken to singing some of its works in Prussian. > > See: there have be tons of wars in what today is Germany. > > In the so called 30-yeas-war most of Prussia was depopulated. Actually East Prussia was relatively undamaged in the 30 years war itself. It was occupied by Sweden for most of it and saw little fighting, compared to most of the rest of Germany. The ruler of Brandenburg-Prussia tried his best to remain neutral in the war. But the Great Northern War which followed a couple of generations later, together with the plague and famine that came with it, killed about 30% of the population. It was about this time that the last Old Prussian speakers vanished. > > Then there were WW1 and WW2 which depopulated East Prussia totally. > > Later came polish and Russian people to East Prussia and the > Germans/Prussians went to Western Germany. > > I know some decendents from these refugees and they all speak German and > have certainly no incentive to learn Prussian. Oh, I bet some do. It's a large population. http://www.prusaspira.org/prussian/ > >> Germans who inhabited the region centuries later came to be called >> "Prussians", which was geographically but not ethnically correct, >> except in as much as some of them had ancestors who were aboriginal >> Prussians. >> This sense of the word "Prussian" dominates today to the extent that >> most people do not know anything of the original Prussians. > > This is a really weired idea and difficult to understand, because it > contains the word 'Prussian' with too many meanings. I have tried to compensate in this post by describing the pre-German Prussians as "Old Prussians", which is done in some works about the area. William Hyde
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| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
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| Date | 2025-06-01 09:39 +0200 |
| Message-ID | <ma2eaoFaqamU4@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #892947 |
Am Samstag000031, 31.05.2025 um 23:28 schrieb William Hyde: ... >> E.g. Emanuel Kant lived there and I know, that he spoke German. > > Kant may have had some Baltic ancestors on his father's side, but the > last known Prussian speakers date from more than a decade before his > birth. And I have no reason to believe that his father spoke it. > > Cornish died out (mostly) a bit later, in the late 1700s, but it has > been successfully revived, with many speakers today. > > The difference being that the Cornish know that they are Cornish, while > most people with Old Prussian ancestry think of themselves as Germans, > Poles, or Lithuanians. > > There is a line in "The Tin Drum" where in 1944 an East Prussian > resident says "We were here before the Germans or Russians". Whether > that's a fabrication on Grass' part or such people existed I do not > know. There is no indication that the character speaks Prussian, as far > as I can recall. > >> >> They had a kind of accent an spoke a German dialect in East Prussia, >> but that was still German. >> >> Possibly much earlier, there was an ethnic group, which spoke 'Prussian'. >> >> That is actually possible, even if I have never heard about this. > > Not possibly, certainly. > > Have you heard of the Wends? Founders of Berlin (well, sort of)? There > are still about 80,000 people, known nown as Sorbs, who speak the > language in Germany, mostly in Saxony and Brandenburg. > > The name "Berlin" itself may come from an old Slavic word for "Swamp". > > It seems that all European nations have these fascinating minorities > somewhere, largely forgotten, sometimes even by their descendants. I can assure you, that Wends and Sorbs are not forgotten! Actually the Sorbs have a certain privileged status as a minority in Germany. It is of course well known, that the region of current Berlin and Brandenburg was in former times the home of slavic people. > There is a village in southern Poland where the inhabitants speak an > unusual version of German. Their ancestors arrived from the extreme > west of Germany hundreds of years ago and their original tongue was > strongly influenced by Dutch or perhaps Frisian. Regrettably, I've lost > the reference I have for this. Dutch is actually relatively close to German and could also be regarded as proper English name for 'German'. But the British used 'German' instead of 'Dutch' because 'Dutch' was already in use for the language of the Netherlands. 'German' is mainly a misnomer, because the language is called 'Deutsch', not 'German'. 'German' stems from ancient Rome and from the language 'Latin', which the 'Germans' didn't speak. The 'Germans' are in most cases also not descendents of the tribes, which the Romans named 'Germanes', because those tribes settled mainly in current Denmark. >> It is an extremely obscure idea, to revitalise an old and vanished >> language, to honor an ethnicity, which had also vanished. > > It may seem obscure to you,but it's actually not that rare. On the one > hand there's the desire to save languages that are nearly extinct, on > the other to revive languages that have only recently vanished. > Comparatively recently, that is. Well, ok. Sure, it can be a nice adventure, to revitalise an old language. People do all sorts of strange things as a hobby, so why not 'revitalise Prussian'. > Though - and I cannot stress this enough - nobody has to learn these > languages. There is, however, a rock group in Lithuania which has taken > to singing some of its works in Prussian. I'v been in Lithuania, but couldn't understand a word and would not recognize, if a rock-band sings in Prussian. (actually a few word were possible) >> >> See: there have be tons of wars in what today is Germany. >> >> In the so called 30-yeas-war most of Prussia was depopulated. > > Actually East Prussia was relatively undamaged in the 30 years war > itself. It was occupied by Sweden for most of it and saw little > fighting, compared to most of the rest of Germany. The ruler of > Brandenburg-Prussia tried his best to remain neutral in the war. > > But the Great Northern War which followed a couple of generations later, > together with the plague and famine that came with it, killed about 30% > of the population. It was about this time that the last Old Prussian > speakers vanished. Sure. Prussia had a particularily bad fate. But these people were smart... TH
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| From | William Hyde <wthyde1953@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-06-01 17:57 -0400 |
| Message-ID | <101iid9$2hll1$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #892952 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Am Samstag000031, 31.05.2025 um 23:28 schrieb William Hyde: > > Dutch is actually relatively close to German Indeed. When in the Netherlands I found that my knowledge of English, combined with the decayed remnants of my German, allowed me to read most signage. After a week or two I was able to read more complex inscriptions. I got through a page of "The Lord of the Rings" in Norwegian by similar means, though it probably helped that I'd already read it in English. and could also be regarded > as proper English name for 'German'. It's an odd situation. The English name you after one group mentioned by the Romans, the French after another, but the actual descendants of the Romans at least make a stab at the right name. The Irish use the same group as the English, but the Welsh follow the French model, as do the Spanish. You have the same situation as Greece, which foreigners have been misnaming since 500 BC. And of course there are more such examples. > > But the British Not all the British, see above. used 'German' instead of 'Dutch' because 'Dutch' was > already in use for the language of the Netherlands. I wish I could believe they were that rational, but I doubt it. I can find no Anglo-Saxon word for "Germany". They had words for various tribes, for the Franks and the Burgundians, and "Denmark" was a word, but no word for the lands where German speaking people lived. Perhaps they just called it "the old country". So by the time the English felt the need for a word describing the area, they probably just went with the Latin, the more so as most literate people at the time were in the church. Which seems a bit odd given the large number of Anglo-Saxon missionaries sent to Germany in the 800s and 900s (as they could still speak to the locals) but perhaps the misnaming came much later. William Hyde
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