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What Made My Day Today :-)

Started byPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
First post2024-11-22 01:47 -0600
Last post2025-02-09 15:44 +0100
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  What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 01:47 -0600
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) jojo <f00@0f0.00f> - 2024-11-22 11:50 +0000
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 15:02 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 16:01 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 16:56 -0600
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 01:03 -0600
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-29 16:00 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-04-30 13:36 -0500
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-28 21:27 -0500
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-05-29 22:19 -0500
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-04 18:08 -0500
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-05 00:38 -0500
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-06-12 14:28 -0500
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) x <x@x.org> - 2024-11-22 12:49 -0800
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-23 03:25 +0000
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-11-22 20:16 -0800
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-23 08:13 +0000
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-11-23 08:13 -0800
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) x <x@x.org> - 2024-11-23 13:15 -0800
                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-24 01:33 +0000
                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-11-23 18:46 -0800
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-24 08:41 +0000
                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2024-11-24 07:06 -0800
                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-24 15:41 +0000
                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 13:46 -0600
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-25 01:57 +0000
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-24 21:36 -0600
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-25 04:48 +0000
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-25 18:17 -0600
                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-26 02:07 +0000
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-24 01:12 +0000
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-22 23:16 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-23 08:21 +0000
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-11-23 17:46 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-11-23 09:07 +0000
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) x <x@x.org> - 2024-11-23 07:12 -0800
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-01 19:25 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-02 02:41 +0000
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-01 22:01 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 01:30 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 22:53 -0600
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-06 17:31 -0600
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 00:42 -0600
                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-07 18:46 -0600
                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 00:02 -0600
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-08 15:00 +0000
                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 13:17 -0600
                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-09 02:15 +0000
                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-08 14:00 -0600
                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-10 16:21 -0600
                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-11 17:14 -0600
                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-12 01:41 +0000
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 13:54 -0600
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-13 01:35 +0000
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 20:53 -0600
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 20:58 -0600
                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 21:08 -0600
                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (bertietaylor) - 2024-12-13 10:18 +0000
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-13 08:07 +0000
                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:19 -0600
                                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-14 02:56 +0000
                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 14:42 -0600
                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 15:48 -0500
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 14:52 -0600
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 16:04 -0500
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-01 22:41 +0100
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 17:15 -0500
                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 07:39 +0100
                                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 14:01 -0500
                                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 22:21 +0000
                                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> - 2025-03-02 22:55 +0000
                                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 23:17 +0000
                                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 15:21 -0800
                                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-03 00:07 +0000
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 03:24 +0000
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Borax Man <rotflol2@hotmail.com> - 2025-03-02 03:22 +0000
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-02 11:31 +0100
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-02 11:03 -0800
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-03-03 09:40 +0100
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-01 18:19 -0500
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 19:11 -0500
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 18:30 -0600
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-01 18:52 -0600
                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-02 12:13 -0500
                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 13:48 -0500
                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-02 16:03 -0500
                                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 16:14 -0500
                                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> - 2025-03-02 16:41 -0500
                                        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-02 22:47 +0100
                                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 22:10 +0000
                                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-03-02 15:11 -0800
                                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 19:56 -0500
                                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 06:25 +0100
                                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 08:43 -0500
                                                Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 15:53 +0100
                                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Joel <joelcrump@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 15:44 -0500
                                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-03-03 23:28 +0100
                                                  Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-03 22:51 +0000
                                                    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 15:11 -0800
                                                      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-04 04:43 +0000
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Rudy Canoza <rudy@phil.hendrie.con> - 2025-03-02 03:35 -0500
                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-03-02 13:05 +0000
                          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-02 23:27 -0600
                            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 22:52 -0600
                              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-03-03 20:59 -0800
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-12 20:29 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 14:40 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 17:48 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:12 -0600
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 19:43 -0600
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-13 21:00 -0600
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-14 17:18 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-19 16:48 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 19:11 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 22:14 -0600
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-23 19:32 -0600
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 17:24 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-20 07:27 +0000
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-30 02:39 +0000
    Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 20:54 -0600
      Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-23 22:21 -0600
        Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-29 16:34 -0600
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-30 03:52 +0000
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-30 03:58 +0000
          Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-06 21:05 -0600
            Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-02-08 18:09 -0600
              Re: What Made My Day Today :-) Mild Shock <janburse@fastmail.fm> - 2025-02-09 15:44 +0100

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#891621

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-01 19:11 -0500
Message-ID<id87sj9h2urke95fvqrdbo7tla0ioh1ug5@4ax.com>
In reply to#891619
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>
>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>
>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>> 
>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.  
>
>Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.


No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
a chance to solve this.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#891623

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-01 18:30 -0600
Message-ID<vq08qb$tr0g$2@solani.org>
In reply to#891621
On 3/1/25 6:11 PM, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>
>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>
>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
>>
>> Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
> 
> 
> No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
> a chance to solve this.
> 


He may be _led_ to do that, and I hope he will. But this requires work 
from other parties involved before seeing results.

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#891624

FromPhysfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-01 18:52 -0600
Message-ID<vq0a3g$tr0g$3@solani.org>
In reply to#891623
On 3/1/25 6:30 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 3/1/25 6:11 PM, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a 
>>>>> crook. He
>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with 
>>>>> essentially
>>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
>>>
>>> Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
>>
>>
>> No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>> a chance to solve this.
>>
> 
> 
> He may be _led_ to do that, and I hope he will. But this requires work 
> from other parties involved before seeing results.
> 
> 


He really fucked yesterday's chances up because his behavior could not 
get adjusted by others in a live stream.

Modifications from others are required in leading him in the right 
direction. And it is not promising that he has only gathered yes men and 
shallow characters around himself in this administration. You will pay 
for that!

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#891632

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-02 12:13 -0500
Message-ID<vq23jm$q5gd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#891621
On 3/1/25 19:11, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>
>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>
>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>
>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
>>
>> Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
> 
> 
> No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
> a chance to solve this.

But why should I take your word for any of this?

Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.


-hh

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#891633

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-02 13:48 -0500
Message-ID<3t99sjhnd2joci9cmhqnmo46iu560da71i@4ax.com>
In reply to#891632
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>On 3/1/25 19:11, Joel wrote:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>> On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>>
>>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>>
>>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
>>>
>>> Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
>> 
>> No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>> a chance to solve this.
>
>But why should I take your word for any of this?
>
>Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.


We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
as it may not seem.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#891637

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-02 16:03 -0500
Message-ID<vq2h29$ukri$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#891633
On 3/2/25 13:48, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> On 3/1/25 19:11, Joel wrote:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>> On 3/1/25 15:48, Joel wrote:
>>>>> Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> - I gained some respect for Zelensky since yesterday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The guy must be someone to recon with. I thought he was just a crook. He
>>>>>> didn't take bullshit from present U.S. administration. He reacted very
>>>>>> realistically and did what any sane man can, discussing with essentially
>>>>>> Nazi idiots.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> That matter was felt all over Europe as well, and they all backed
>>>>>> Zelensky's side. Kudos for Zelensky.
>>>>>
>>>>> Yeah but you know what, Trump has a point.
>>>>
>>>> Not really.  This was a shakedown attempt by Trump.
>>>
>>> No, my friend, take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>> a chance to solve this.
>>
>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>
>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
> 
> 
> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
> as it may not seem.

No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've 
been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to 
Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give 
back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace 
bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.


-hh

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#891638

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-02 16:14 -0500
Message-ID<7ei9sj9rset5ipj3alqc3acabepmjeefue@4ax.com>
In reply to#891637
-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:

>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>
>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>
>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>> 
>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>> as it may not seem.
>
>No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've 
>been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to 
>Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give 
>back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace 
>bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.


You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
you're implying with that logic.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#891639

From-hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com>
Date2025-03-02 16:41 -0500
Message-ID<vq2jao$ukrc$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#891638
On 3/2/25 16:14, Joel wrote:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>>
>>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>>
>>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>>>
>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>> as it may not seem.
>>
>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
> 
> 
> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
> you're implying with that logic.

No, not saying that I "want" that.  I'm merely noting that when you're 
doomed to die anyway, nuking the other SOB takes them down with you.

If that starts a larger exchange (or not) is no longer relevant to you 
because you're already dead:  its the principle of MAD as a deterrent, 
and my observation is that MAD only works when both sides have nukes.

So if you really want peace, solution is give Ukraine back their nukes.


-hh



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#891640

FromMaciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-03-02 22:47 +0100
Message-ID<18291aa6be19e928$299185$1488192$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#891638
W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> 
>>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>>
>>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>>
>>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>>>
>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>> as it may not seem.
>>
>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
> 
> 
> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
> you're implying with that logic.

If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
How about California?

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#891641

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-03-02 22:10 +0000
Message-ID<6176763706248bd9c62fda4b4458a075@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#891640
What fools these apes be!

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#891644

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2025-03-02 15:11 -0800
Message-ID<67C4E599.52BB@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#891640
Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
> > -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
> >
> >>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
> >>>>> a chance to solve this.
> >>>>
> >>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
> >>>>
> >>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
> >>>
> >>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
> >>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
> >>> as it may not seem.
> >>
> >> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
> >> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
> >> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
> >> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
> >> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
> >
> >
> > You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
> > you're implying with that logic.
> 
> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
> How about California?

How about Cuba? 


How about Mexico?


How about Canada?


How about Brooklyn??


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#891649

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-02 19:56 -0500
Message-ID<cfv9sj1n06nd3lk42vdjc9sqrdodmeqa2i@4ax.com>
In reply to#891640
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>>>
>>>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>>>
>>>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>>>>
>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>
>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
>> 
>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>> you're implying with that logic.
>
>If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>How about California?


We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
up anything.  That's why I'm suddenly joining with DJT.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#891651

FromMaciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-03-03 06:25 +0100
Message-ID<182933aebff5d90c$835530$1481196$c2565adb@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#891649
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>>>> take my word for it, I'm in on this, Trump is giving us
>>>>>>> a chance to solve this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> But why should I take your word for any of this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Increasing the bullying of a victim doesn't ever stop the bullying.
>>>>>
>>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>>
>>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
>>>
>>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>>> you're implying with that logic.
>>
>> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>> How about California?
> 
> 
> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
> up anything. 

And you can even get your share in the plunder of
Ukraine; what a great leader.



  That's why I'm suddenly joining with DJT.
> 

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#891654

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-03 08:43 -0500
Message-ID<vdcbsjleimv1jfos0e3va2ppn1m26guji9@4ax.com>
In reply to#891651
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>>>
>>>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>>>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
>>>>
>>>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>>>> you're implying with that logic.
>>>
>>> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>>> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>>> How about California?
>> 
>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>> up anything. 
>
>And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>Ukraine; what a great leader.


Incorrect, I would undo any of that.  But we still need Trump, trust
me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#891655

FromMaciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-03-03 15:53 +0100
Message-ID<182952ac06270983$299186$1488192$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#891654
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>>>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>>>>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
>>>>>
>>>>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>>>>> you're implying with that logic.
>>>>
>>>> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>>>> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>>>> How about California?
>>>
>>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>>> up anything.
>>
>> And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>> Ukraine; what a great leader.
> 
> 
> Incorrect, I would undo any of that. 

No you wouldn't.

> But we still need Trump, trust
> me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.

Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
have elected him - your choice; I don't
have any respect for that choice - and
that's my choice.



> 

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#891660

FromJoel <joelcrump@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-03 15:44 -0500
Message-ID<d25csjhkfe5j8nrte15f0tofejcuchi7rp@4ax.com>
In reply to#891655
Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
>>>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>>>> up anything.
>>>
>>> And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>>> Ukraine; what a great leader.
>> 
>> Incorrect, I would undo any of that. 
>
>No you wouldn't.
>
>> But we still need Trump, trust
>> me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
>
>Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
>have elected him - your choice; I don't
>have any respect for that choice - and
>that's my choice.


I voted for H. Clinton, Biden and Harris, three times against DJT, but
now I'm saying he won the 2024 election.

-- 
Joel W. Crump

Amendment XIV
Section 1.

[...] No state shall make or enforce any law which shall
abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the
United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of
life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;
nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal
protection of the laws.

Dobbs rewrites this, it is invalid precedent.  States are
liable for denying needed abortions, e.g. TX.

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#891663

FromMaciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl>
Date2025-03-03 23:28 +0100
Message-ID<18296b7e3f25e756$299188$1488192$c2265aab@news.newsdemon.com>
In reply to#891660
W dniu 03.03.2025 o 21:44, Joel pisze:
> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
>>>>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>>>>> up anything.
>>>>
>>>> And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>>>> Ukraine; what a great leader.
>>>
>>> Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
>>
>> No you wouldn't.
>>
>>> But we still need Trump, trust
>>> me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
>>
>> Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
>> have elected him - your choice; I don't
>> have any respect for that choice - and
>> that's my choice.
> 
> 
> I voted for H. Clinton, Biden and Harris, three times against DJT, but
> now I'm saying he won the 2024 election.

He surely did.

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#891664

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-03-03 22:51 +0000
Message-ID<a3fd0d164c4f0a2dd6f9c4ec79ad40d5@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#891655
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:53:48 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:

> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine bravely
>>>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy Putin, fair
>>>>>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and we've
>>>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we made to
>>>>>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated to give
>>>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow being nuked.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>>>>>> you're implying with that logic.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>>>>> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>>>>> How about California?
>>>>
>>>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>>>> up anything.
>>>
>>> And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>>> Ukraine; what a great leader.
>>
>>
>> Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
>
> No you wouldn't.
>
>> But we still need Trump, trust
>> me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
>
> Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
> have elected him - your choice; I don't
> have any respect for that choice - and
> that's my choice.

Unfortunately not voting for Trump meant voting for a puppet pulled by
unseen forces acting without responsibility.

What fools these apes be! They are screaming for WW3 as they screamed
for WW2 to happen.

Woof-woof woof woof woof woof woof-woof

Bertietaylor
>
>
>
>>

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#891665

From"Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com>
Date2025-03-03 15:11 -0800
Message-ID<vq5cv0$1glef$6@dont-email.me>
In reply to#891664
On 3/3/2025 2:51 PM, Bertietaylor wrote:
> On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:53:48 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
> 
>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
>>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine 
>>>>>>>>> bravely
>>>>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy 
>>>>>>>>> Putin, fair
>>>>>>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and 
>>>>>>>> we've
>>>>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we 
>>>>>>>> made to
>>>>>>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated 
>>>>>>>> to give
>>>>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>>>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow 
>>>>>>>> being nuked.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>>>>>>> you're implying with that logic.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>>>>>> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>>>>>> How about California?
>>>>>
>>>>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>>>>> up anything.
>>>>
>>>> And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>>>> Ukraine; what a great leader.
>>>
>>>
>>> Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
>>
>> No you wouldn't.
>>
>>> But we still need Trump, trust
>>> me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
>>
>> Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
>> have elected him - your choice; I don't
>> have any respect for that choice - and
>> that's my choice.
> 
> Unfortunately not voting for Trump meant voting for a puppet pulled by
> unseen forces acting without responsibility.
> 
> What fools these apes be! They are screaming for WW3 as they screamed
> for WW2 to happen.
> 
> Woof-woof woof woof woof woof woof-woof

It's as if some people want to go back the the good ol' days! It's a Duck!

https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g

Yikes!

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#891666

Frombertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor)
Date2025-03-04 04:43 +0000
Message-ID<57d2f905b582019e9b6c1fb6f3d3a344@www.novabbs.com>
In reply to#891665
On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 23:11:27 +0000, Chris M. Thomasson wrote:

> On 3/3/2025 2:51 PM, Bertietaylor wrote:
>> On Mon, 3 Mar 2025 14:53:48 +0000, Maciej Wozniak wrote:
>>
>>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 14:43, Joel pisze:
>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>> W dniu 03.03.2025 o 01:56, Joel pisze:
>>>>>> Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> wrote:
>>>>>>> W dniu 02.03.2025 o 22:14, Joel pisze:
>>>>>>>> -hh <recscuba_google@huntzinger.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We've lost the war with Russia, is the bottom line.  Ukraine
>>>>>>>>>> bravely
>>>>>>>>>> fought it for us but it hasn't worked.  We have to satisfy
>>>>>>>>>> Putin, fair
>>>>>>>>>> as it may not seem.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> No, we've not lost the war with Russia.  We've barely tried, and
>>>>>>>>> we've
>>>>>>>>> been grossly delinquent in living up to the security promises we
>>>>>>>>> made to
>>>>>>>>> Ukraine.  If you really want to "end it", then we're obligated
>>>>>>>>> to give
>>>>>>>>> back to Ukraine their bombers and nukes.  Pragmatically, the peace
>>>>>>>>> bringing force-equalizer would be for Russia to fear Moscow
>>>>>>>>> being nuked.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> You're wanting World War III to happen, then?  Because that's what
>>>>>>>> you're implying with that logic.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that piece of shit wanted Alaska - would you
>>>>>>> give it for the purpose of  avoiding the  war?
>>>>>>> How about California?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have thanks to the election a way to satisfy Putin without giving
>>>>>> up anything.
>>>>>
>>>>> And you can even get your share in the plunder of
>>>>> Ukraine; what a great leader.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Incorrect, I would undo any of that.
>>>
>>> No you wouldn't.
>>>
>>>> But we still need Trump, trust
>>>> me, I wouldn't say this for no reason.
>>>
>>> Fuck him and fuck your reasons. You may
>>> have elected him - your choice; I don't
>>> have any respect for that choice - and
>>> that's my choice.
>>
>> Unfortunately not voting for Trump meant voting for a puppet pulled by
>> unseen forces acting without responsibility.
>>
>> What fools these apes be! They are screaming for WW3 as they screamed
>> for WW2 to happen.
>>
>> Woof-woof woof woof woof woof woof-woof
>
> It's as if some people want to go back the the good ol' days! It's a
> Duck!

Better new days is better, with Arindam's new physics.
>
> https://youtu.be/zrzMhU_4m-g
>
> Yikes!

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