Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]
Groups > sci.physics > #890488 > unrolled thread
| Started by | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| First post | 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800 |
| Last post | 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800 |
| Articles | 20 on this page of 199 — 13 participants |
Back to article view | Back to sci.physics
ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-14 20:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-15 10:14 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2024-12-15 03:06 -0800
Re: ww2 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2024-12-16 06:50 +0100
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-16 21:24 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-18 13:42 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:34 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 17:16 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 09:48 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-20 10:08 -0800
Re: ww3 % <pursent100@gmail.com> - 2024-12-20 11:32 -0700
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-24 00:38 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-27 11:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2024-12-30 00:14 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-01 04:58 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-01 04:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-02 06:43 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 22:52 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-01 15:05 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-02 07:21 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-03 09:12 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-04 07:38 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-03 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-05 09:05 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:38 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 12:26 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:45 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 00:05 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:09 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:55 +0100
Re: ww3 Maciej Wozniak <mlwozniak@wp.pl> - 2025-01-09 08:02 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-09 10:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:20 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:05 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 08:57 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 10:57 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-15 21:35 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-16 17:17 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 16:28 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:15 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:53 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:25 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:27 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 10:35 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:29 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-20 08:38 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-20 09:58 +0000
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 08:56 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-18 08:33 +0100
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-18 15:58 +0000
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-19 07:40 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 15:35 -0600
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 23:08 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:32 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:08 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:51 -0600
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-10 08:25 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 23:40 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:29 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:26 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 14:32 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 16:16 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:18 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:22 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:12 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 12:14 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:50 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-05 11:51 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:22 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-11 09:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 19:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-03 08:49 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-05 14:39 -0500
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-07 06:46 +0100
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-06 23:59 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:30 +0100
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-08 16:04 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-08 16:07 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:17 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:18 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 01:20 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-11 11:54 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 18:41 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-11 20:32 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-11 21:00 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-16 17:52 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:55 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:39 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:45 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 23:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:03 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 00:08 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:11 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:13 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 23:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 07:04 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:27 -0600
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 13:34 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-21 04:52 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 23:59 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-22 06:44 +0000
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 11:57 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-20 13:41 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:55 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:51 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-21 13:33 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 21:05 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-22 20:56 -0800
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-19 20:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 22:36 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:41 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-10 01:25 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-09 22:46 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:18 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:56 -0500
Re: ww3 Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2025-01-07 11:23 -0800
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-07 13:24 -0800
Re: ww3 Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> - 2025-01-08 08:48 +0100
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-09 22:56 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-07 22:35 -0500
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-12 23:42 -0700
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-12 23:06 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-13 10:46 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:11 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 02:23 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:09 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 03:15 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 21:27 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-14 08:26 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:25 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 15:32 +0000
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 16:57 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-19 02:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:40 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-15 09:24 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-15 16:36 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 19:08 -0800
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2025-01-16 05:21 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-15 21:44 -0800
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2025-01-17 02:28 -0600
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:40 -0500
Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 22:02 -0800
Re: ww3 "186282@ud0s4.net" <186283@ud0s4.net> - 2025-01-20 00:10 -0500
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 17:36 -0500
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-18 14:50 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:49 -0800
Re: ww3 "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 17:11 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:12 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-13 15:00 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-13 12:53 -0800
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:10 -0700
Re: ww3 Gronk <invalide@invalid.invalid> - 2025-01-18 23:15 -0700
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-19 18:45 -0500
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-19 19:47 -0800
Re: ww3 Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> - 2025-01-20 22:58 -0500
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-21 05:48 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-21 14:35 -0600
Re: ww3 bertietaylor@myyahoo.com (Bertietaylor) - 2024-12-22 05:39 +0000
Re: ww3 Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-12-22 02:50 -0600
Re: ww3 patdolan@comcast.net (patdolan) - 2025-01-19 03:01 +0000
Re: ww3 Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> - 2025-01-18 19:37 -0800
Re: ww3 The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2025-01-19 00:55 -0800
Page 5 of 10 — ← Prev page 1 … 3 4 [5] 6 7 … 10 Next page →
| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-07 20:33 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vlkv78$2kqbk$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890581 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > Well, yes, but Russians don't need to. > > In a way, the Crimean peninsula is an 'unsinkable carrier', while > the US-carriers are not. > > Therefore the Nato needs protection for them, while the Russians > don't need that many ships. Ramstein Air Base is another unsinkable aircraft carrier. Germany does have a Baltic navy which does sail in the Baltic. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 09:13 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu6qdcF90rcU14@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890597 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 05:33 schrieb Siri Cruise: ... >> In a way, the Crimean peninsula is an 'unsinkable carrier', while the >> US-carriers are not. >> >> Therefore the Nato needs protection for them, while the Russians don't >> need that many ships. > > Ramstein Air Base is another unsinkable aircraft carrier. > > Germany does have a Baltic navy which does sail in the Baltic. > You didn't understand, what I tried to explain. If you (Nato in this case) have troops in the eastern Ukraine, you need to support them somehow. To do this, you need some kind of base in that region, where supply could land. You could supply your bases by land, air or sea. The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea (caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). To balance these batteries the Nato would need ships, unless they want to drive them over land to the front. Flight is also a possibility, but rather dangerous, because Russians have state of the art air defense. In effect, you need to bring troops, armor and supply by land transport from e.g. Poland, Germany or Romania. The Baltic states are much closer, but difficult to support, because they are tiny states, directly at the doorsteps of Russia. In the end, Nato can only come upon land and had to bring support through travels over the vast plains in the Ukraine. The is exactly what the Nazis had tried - and lost. TH
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 01:07 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vllf92$2n7ub$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890602 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >> Ramstein Air Base is another unsinkable aircraft carrier. >> >> Germany does have a Baltic navy which does sail in the Baltic. >> > > You didn't understand, what I tried to explain. I understand you are a loony or troll. > > If you (Nato in this case) have troops in the eastern Ukraine, you > need to support them somehow. > > To do this, you need some kind of base in that region, where > supply could land. There is Turkey, Bulgaria, Romania, Hungary, Poland, Germany, Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia proving unsinkable aircraft carriers. > You could supply your bases by land, air or sea. All these aircraft carriers are accessible by Baltic Ocean, Atlantic Ocean, Mediterranean Sea, and Black as NATO member Turkey decides. And ports thereupon have highways and trains to the aircraft carrier. The Military Sealift Command and Air Mobility Command can move odds and ends over the Atlantic Ocean. > The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black > sea (caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). Antwerp, Frankfurt, and Le Havre are shiverring afrighted! > To balance these batteries the Nato would need ships, unless they > want to drive them over land to the front. Or drive in from Poland and Romania. > Flight is also a possibility, but rather dangerous, because > Russians have state of the art air defense. Ukraine has statier of the art defence defanging. > In effect, you need to bring troops, armor and supply by land > transport from e.g. Poland, Germany or Romania. Which are so far from Ukraine. > The Baltic states are much closer, but difficult to support, > because they are tiny states, directly at the doorsteps of Russia. Poland and Romania abut Ukraine. Germany abuts the abutters. All are NATO members with extensive logistics practice. > In the end, Nato can only come upon land and had to bring support > through travels over the vast plains in the Ukraine. Too bad no one has trucks. > The is exactly what the Nazis had tried - and lost. Even back then the USA had trucks. Germany did not. Germany has bought a few since. Ukraine is destroying Russian railroads all over Russia, and Russian trucks are, well, problematic. The US figured out airdrops in the olden days of Khe Sanh. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 15:19 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <e2ntnjl3te9vtcimjsu3k4k93971h07hrv@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890602 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >You didn't understand, what I tried to explain. > >If you (Nato in this case) have troops in the eastern Ukraine, you need >to support them somehow. > >To do this, you need some kind of base in that region, where supply >could land. > >You could supply your bases by land, air or sea. It is you who does not understand. By international treaty, a NATO member controls the Bosporus and three NATO members have ports on the Black. Four NATO members share land borders with Ukraine. Yes, NATO will supply it's bases by land, air and sea. It's western supply and logistics vs Russian supply and logistics.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 09:39 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luep2lFib4lU2@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890610 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:19 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> You didn't understand, what I tried to explain. >> >> If you (Nato in this case) have troops in the eastern Ukraine, you need >> to support them somehow. >> >> To do this, you need some kind of base in that region, where supply >> could land. >> >> You could supply your bases by land, air or sea. > > It is you who does not understand. By international treaty, a NATO member > controls the Bosporus and three NATO members have ports on the Black. Four NATO > members share land borders with Ukraine. > > Yes, NATO will supply it's bases by land, air and sea. It's western supply and > logistics vs Russian supply and logistics. > Once the Nato does, we have WWIII. The Russians will inevitably sink all NATO warships, entering the Black Sea (treaty or not), because they would regard this as Nato attack on the Russian main land. In case of Nato I wouldn't sail there, because the Russians have all means necessary to destroy Nato ships and have incentive to do that. Possibly the Russians have mercy with smaller boats, sailing to Romania. But if a carrier shows up there, they would sink it. Maybe I'm wrong, because in the end I'm not an expert. But I would not recommend to check that out. TH
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 11:39 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vluhdu$okdg$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890641 |
Thomas Heger wrote: > The Russians will inevitably sink all NATO warships, entering the > Black Sea (treaty or not), because they would regard this as Nato > attack on the Russian main land. > > In case of Nato I wouldn't sail there, because the Russians have > all means necessary to destroy Nato ships and have incentive to do > that. Russian submarines patrol Poland. NATO is still working on depth charges that will work in Lithuania. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Jack> > Possibly the Russians have mercy with smaller boats, sailing to > Romania. > > But if a carrier shows up there, they would sink it. It was a sad day when The Ramstein sank beneath the amber waves of grain. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 19:33 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <jc36ojhuf5bq3hlsavepisrqn4ki7ebh44@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890648 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 11:39:39 -0800, Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> wrote: >Thomas Heger wrote: > > >> The Russians will inevitably sink all NATO warships, entering the >> Black Sea (treaty or not), because they would regard this as Nato >> attack on the Russian main land. >> >> In case of Nato I wouldn't sail there, because the Russians have >> all means necessary to destroy Nato ships and have incentive to do >> that. > >Russian submarines patrol Poland. NATO is still working on depth >charges that will work in Lithuania. > ><https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mighty_Jack> BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! >> Possibly the Russians have mercy with smaller boats, sailing to >> Romania. >> >> But if a carrier shows up there, they would sink it. > >It was a sad day when The Ramstein sank beneath the amber waves of >grain. <giggle>
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 19:31 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0036oj5oomu74gj9cni2tbgu1l8kp3dr2j@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890641 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:39:51 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:19 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> You didn't understand, what I tried to explain. >>> >>> If you (Nato in this case) have troops in the eastern Ukraine, you need >>> to support them somehow. >>> >>> To do this, you need some kind of base in that region, where supply >>> could land. >>> >>> You could supply your bases by land, air or sea. >> >> It is you who does not understand. By international treaty, a NATO member >> controls the Bosporus and three NATO members have ports on the Black. Four NATO >> members share land borders with Ukraine. >> >> Yes, NATO will supply it's bases by land, air and sea. It's western supply and >> logistics vs Russian supply and logistics. >> > >Once the Nato does, we have WWIII. So? >The Russians will inevitably sink all NATO warships, entering the Black >Sea (treaty or not), because they would regard this as Nato attack on >the Russian main land. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHA! They can't even keep their own ships afloat in the Black! LOL! >In case of Nato I wouldn't sail there, because the Russians have all >means necessary to destroy Nato ships and have incentive to do that. NATO has no need to place ships in the Black since there are so many NATO land bases within easy reach of most of Russia west of the Urals. Romania, Bulgaria and Turkey already have their Navies in place there should any naval action be needed. Not that it would. Ukraine, a nation without a navy has already defeated the Russian Black Seafloor Fleet. >Possibly the Russians have mercy with smaller boats, sailing to Romania. > >But if a carrier shows up there, they would sink it. Again, you prove your ignorance. Not only are carriers not allowed through the Bosporus, there is no need of any carriers in the Black. >Maybe I'm wrong, Of course you are. >because in the end I'm not an expert. You're not even a dilettante. You're nothing but ignorant. >But I would not recommend to check that out. In order to sink a ship, Russia will first need working ship attack missiles.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 15:21 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <5gntnjtjmsktqi4e59rnh959jaaqf16liu@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890602 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea >(caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is hiding in the Sea of Azov! LOL!
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 09:46 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <luepfdFib4lU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890611 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:21 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea >> (caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). > > LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is hiding in the > Sea of Azov! LOL! > Russians do not need ships, because they can place their batteries on the Krim. This peninsula is unsinkable, while Nato ships are not. Therefore it is an unsymmetrical situation, where the Russians have all the advantages and Nato has very few. It's similar to chess, where you have a certain kind of defense system. This is already in place, well manned and well armed. It would be REALLY silly, if western military would ignore the possibility, that Russians have prepared already for a war in the Black Sea. (btw: Russians are experts in chess) TH
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 11:47 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vluhtd$onb3$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890642 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >> >> LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is >> hiding in the >> Sea of Azov! LOL! >> > > Russians do not need ships, because they can place their batteries > on the Krim. > > This peninsula is unsinkable, while Nato ships are not. > > Therefore it is an unsymmetrical situation, where the Russians > have all the advantages and Nato has very few. > The Romanian, Bulgarian, and Turkish navies are hiding in the Mediterranean with no access to the Black Sea. And because none of these three have any land near the Black Sea where they could build missile batteries. -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-11 19:37 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <1f36oj98pajvbb2100o86togf9lcnjgtb7@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890642 |
On Sat, 11 Jan 2025 09:46:39 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 21:21 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:13:37 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> The option 'sea' is hindered by the Russian control over the black sea >>> (caused by Russian batteries on the Crimean peninsula). >> >> LOL! Such is Russia's control over the Black that it's fleet is hiding in the >> Sea of Azov! LOL! >> > >Russians do not need ships, because they can place their batteries on >the Krim. Not that putting them there is helpful. Ukraine keeps knocking them out. >This peninsula is unsinkable, while Nato ships are not. You really have a fascination for sailors. One more time, why would NATO need aircraft carriers in the Black, even if they were allowed to move them there? >Therefore it is an unsymmetrical situation, where the Russians have all >the advantages and Nato has very few. BWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA! NATO has 31 member states plus the active support of dozens of others. Russia has Iran, North Korea and Nicaragua. <giggle> >It's similar to chess, where you have a certain kind of defense system. > >This is already in place, well manned and well armed. > >It would be REALLY silly, if western military would ignore the >possibility, that Russians have prepared already for a war in the Black Sea. If they were prepared for war in the Black Sea, they would not have abandoned Sevastopol and hidden their fleet in the Azov and Novorossiysk. >(btw: Russians are experts in chess) War is not chess.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-05 14:02 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <0nllnjlgqim75idc0vino0m4tocrnfscip@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890569 |
On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >the Ukrainian military. That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. -- Been saying since last spring, "let the voters decide." Well, they did. Get over it.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-07 06:28 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu3schFphgoU5@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890573 |
Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >> the Ukrainian military. > > That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. > > "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. > The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret service in the World: the KGB. The KGB had agents everywhere. And there is absolutely no reason at all to think, that they had no agents in the Ukraine. Actually nothings would be easier than that, because Ukraine is just 'next door', was formerly part of the same nation USSR, they share the same history and speak mostly the same language. To place a new FSB-agent there wouldn't cost much more than a train ticket and a false passport. TH
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-07 22:34 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <6dsrnjd9k4ukogs15ud51fkat35jdqmn0d@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890582 |
On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >>> the Ukrainian military. >> >> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. >> >> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. >> >The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >service in the World: the KGB. > >The KGB had agents everywhere. And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >And there is absolutely no reason at all to think, that they had no >agents in the Ukraine. And no reason to think Ukraine has no agents in Russia. Lots of sabotage going on deep in the country. >Actually nothings would be easier than that, because Ukraine is just >'next door', was formerly part of the same nation USSR, they share the >same history and speak mostly the same language. So do the US and Canada but you don't see us invading them. >To place a new FSB-agent there wouldn't cost much more than a train >ticket and a false passport. Then we can just watch and wait for him to do something stupid - which shouldn't take long.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 09:00 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu6pldF90rcU13@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890594 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 04:34 schrieb Governor Swill: > On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: >>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>> >>>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >>>> the Ukrainian military. >>> >>> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. >>> >>> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. >>> >> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >> service in the World: the KGB. >> >> The KGB had agents everywhere. > > And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible > example of KGB/Russian incompetence. Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. For instance, most chess world-champions in history were actually Russians. I personally guess, that KGB was successful in a lot of cases, but not with everything they tried. But KGB kept silent, even after the operations, hence we cannot really know, how successful they have been. But my guess is: they have been quite successful. > >> And there is absolutely no reason at all to think, that they had no >> agents in the Ukraine. > > And no reason to think Ukraine has no agents in Russia. Lots of sabotage going > on deep in the country. Sure, but western agent were not very often successful in the former USSR. Don't know why, because that is not really my field of expertise. But I have heard, that Russians were quite good in detecting agents. > >> Actually nothings would be easier than that, because Ukraine is just >> 'next door', was formerly part of the same nation USSR, they share the >> same history and speak mostly the same language. > > So do the US and Canada but you don't see us invading them. I have heard recently, the new president wants just that. (He also allegedly wants Greenland for some odd reasons.) >> To place a new FSB-agent there wouldn't cost much more than a train >> ticket and a false passport. > > Then we can just watch and wait for him to do something stupid - which shouldn't > take long. I don't know, but I would guess, that tons of Russian agents are already operating in the Ukraine. TH
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Siri Cruise <chine.bleu@www.yahoo.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 01:09 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vllfc8$2n7ub$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #890601 |
Thomas Heger wrote: >>> >>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >> >> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as >> the most visible >> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. > > Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. Are they hiding under my bed? -- Siri Seal of Disavowal #000-001. Disavowed. Denied. @ 'I desire mercy, not sacrifice.' /|\ The Church of the Holey Apple .signature 3.2 / \ of Discordian Mysteries. This post insults Islam. Mohamed
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-09 07:44 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <lu99i1Fm4jfU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #890604 |
Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 10:09 schrieb Siri Cruise: > Thomas Heger wrote: >>>> >>>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >>> >>> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the >>> most visible >>> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. >> >> Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. > > Are they hiding under my bed? > Certainly not. Nobody wants to hide there. TH
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | Governor Swill <governor.swill@gmail.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 15:23 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <mintnj1aspm3vn8ld18p0lobonv71tgmru@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #890601 |
On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:00:49 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 04:34 schrieb Governor Swill: >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >> >>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: >>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: >>>> >>>>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of >>>>> the Ukrainian military. >>>> >>>> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. >>>> >>>> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. >>>> >>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret >>> service in the World: the KGB. >>> >>> The KGB had agents everywhere. >> >> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible >> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. > >Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your brain at the Czar's pleasure. This is why Russians are so stupid. They've been killing off their best and brightest for decades on account of suspected loyalty issues.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
| From | The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> |
|---|---|
| Date | 2025-01-08 16:01 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <677F11CB.359C@ix.netcom.com> |
| In reply to | #890612 |
Governor Swill wrote: > > On Wed, 8 Jan 2025 09:00:49 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > > >Am Mittwoch000008, 08.01.2025 um 04:34 schrieb Governor Swill: > >> On Tue, 7 Jan 2025 06:28:52 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >> > >>> Am Sonntag000005, 05.01.2025 um 20:02 schrieb Governor Swill: > >>>> On Sat, 4 Jan 2025 07:38:19 +0100, Thomas Heger <ttt_heg@web.de> wrote: > >>>> > >>>>> My bet would be, that huge numbers of Russian spies are actually part of > >>>>> the Ukrainian military. > >>>> > >>>> That would explain the success of so many sabotage ops deep inside Russia. > >>>> > >>>> "Russian military" is a joke. Always has been, always will be. > >>>> > >>> The current president Putin was formerly head of the 'best' secret > >>> service in the World: the KGB. > >>> > >>> The KGB had agents everywhere. > >> > >> And like everything else Russian, they failed. Putin serves as the most visible > >> example of KGB/Russian incompetence. > > > >Russians are occasionally VERY smart people. > > Being smart in Russia gets you a one way ticket to the gulag or a bullet in your > brain at the Czar's pleasure. > > This is why Russians are so stupid. They've been killing off their best and > brightest for decades on account of suspected loyalty issues. Maybe you've been Governor too long and don't understand Russian mentality..but, anyone suspected of loyalty issues should be shot on sight retgardless of their best brigntness. Trump wants only Loyal people around him, not smarty pants. If you're not loyal, I'd be happy to throw you and your mother out the window...women first of course. -- The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge the unchallengeable.
[toc] | [prev] | [next] | [standalone]
Page 5 of 10 — ← Prev page 1 … 3 4 [5] 6 7 … 10 Next page →
Back to top | Article view | sci.physics
csiph-web