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  Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-01 21:17 -0800
    Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2024-12-02 23:48 -0500
      Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-02 22:43 -0800
        Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? x <x@x.org> - 2024-12-03 19:31 -0800
        Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-04 09:12 -0800
          Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? hertz778@gmail.com (rhertz) - 2024-12-04 18:50 +0000
            Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? George Hammond <ghammond928@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 09:23 -0500
              Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-05 08:43 -0800
                Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-05 09:18 -0800
                  Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? x <x@x.org> - 2024-12-05 16:04 -0800
                    Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:34 -0800
                      Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-05 19:40 -0800
                        Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-05 19:55 -0800
                  Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-12-07 09:56 -0800
              Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC? "Chris M. Thomasson" <chris.m.thomasson.1@gmail.com> - 2024-12-05 16:33 -0800

#890318 — Re: IS THE AFTERLIFE RELATIVISTIC?

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> George Hammond wrote:
> >
> > On 11/30/2024 8:23 PM, George Hammond wrote:
> > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> > > Research Note:
> > > November 29, 2024
> > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> > >
> > > HOW CAN LIFE AFTER DEATH BE YEARS IF OUR BRAIN
> > > IS VAPORIZED IN MICRO-SECS BY LIGHTNING, TNT, OR
> > > ANÂ  ATOMIC-BOMB ?
> > >
> > > WELL, IT CAN STUPID-- IT'S CALLED RELATIVITY
> > >
> > > ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
> > >
> > > George E. Hammond MS Physics
> > > Hyannis Cape Cod MA USA
> > > ghammond928@gmail.com
> > >
> > > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >  >
> >  >
> > Let me try and simplify my previous message.
> >
> > The question at hand is this –
> >
> > 1. –  WITHOUT GETTING "ESOTERIC" – we must
> > presume that IF there is life after death (LAD)
> > – then it MOST LIKELY occurs in the human brain.
> >
> > 2. –  The problem is – some forms of death such
> > as Lightning, TNT, or an A-bomb explosion are so
> > fast (microseconds) that it is hard to see how the
> > brain could produce a 5 or 10 year Afterlife if the
> > brain can be vaporized in a split second?
> >
> > 3. –  HOWEVER it turns out that the brain contains
> > "a 2nd nervous system" – namely, the water filled
> > MICROTUBULES that run along inside the neurons.
> >
> > 4. –  And this microtubule system is 10 trillion times
> > FASTER than the neuronal firing system.  You can see
> > an actual picture of this "microtubule system" here: –
> >
> > https://www.academia.edu/44527322/
> > A_Simple_Car_Airbag_Model_of_Life_After_Death
> >
> > There are 3 pictures of MICROTUBULES on this page !
> >
> > 5. –  OKAY – SO THE POINT IS THIS –
> > if the neuronal system produces a dream
> > and it is the neuronal system which watches the
> > dream then the dream will be seen in real time!
> >
> > The same is true of the microtubule system –
> >
> > If the microtubule system produces a dream
> > and it is the microtubule system which watches the
> > dream than the dream will be seen in real time
> >
> > OKAY, this is true even though the microtubule
> > system runs at 10^15 Hertz (UV light) while the
> > neuronal system only runs at around 1000 Hertz
> > (polarized nerve pulses)  a 10 trillion to 1 speed
> > difference  !
> >
> > SO if the brain has a dream in EITHER system, it
> > will have the same "PROPER TIME" in BOTH
> > system – despite the fact that the microtubule
> > system runs 10 trillion times FASTER than the
> > neuronal system !
> >
> > So the BOTTOM LINE is that the microtubule
> > system is so fast (UV light) that it can beat
> > (speed wise) ANY form of death – hence, it is
> > absolutely FAILSAFE !
> >
> > NOW I SAY THIS IS A FORM OF RELATIVITY, even
> > though it doesn't even mention the word "GRAVITY".
> >
> > I suspect however, that ultimately the cause of it
> > will be traced back to "quantum gravity at the
> > molecular level" – HOWEVER, in the meantime it
> > is clearly obvious that the phenomenon is
> > ACTUALLY SCIENTIFICALLY POSSIBLE and even
> > appears to be amazingly quite PLAUSIBLE--!
> >
> > George Hammond, MS physics, Hyannis 12/1/24
> >
> > .
> 
> The AFTERLIFE occurs in...The Eighth Dimension.

Like everyone else you need proof...

"the microtubule system produces a dream"

"and it is the microtubule system which watches the dream"


You George Hammond have already spent over 20 years in...The Eighth Dimension.


Eventually you will be in ...The Eighth Dimension for eternity.


I'll show you the math now...


The average person sleeps 8 hours a day.

In three days...that's 24 hours!

A whole day in ...The Eighth Dimension.


In three years, dats a  whole year in...The Eighth Dimension.


In 30 years, dats 10 years in...The Eighth Dimension.

In 60 years, dats 20 years in ...The Eighth Dimension.


Eventually you will be in ...The Eighth Dimension for eternity.


The Eighth Dimension is beyond that which is known to man. 
It is a dimension as vast as space and as timeless as infinity. 
It is the middle ground between light and shadow, 
between science and dreams...  
This is the dimension of the microtubule system. 
It is an area which we call the Microtubule Zone. 


The Eighth Dimension physics is different.

People can fly

The next time you enter
The Eighth Dimension
try turning on the lights in the kitchen,
you will see the light switch does not
work. 

Would you like some flying lessons?


I give flying lessons in
The Eighth Dimension so you
won't fall suddendly and panic.

Just keep at building roof levels.


Your next stop, The Eighth Dimension.

































-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890323

On 12/2/2024 12:17 AM, The Starmaker wrote:

> Like everyone else you need proof...
> 
> "the microtubule system produces a dream"
> 
> "and it is the microtubule system which watches the dream"
> 
> 
December 2, 2024
Geo. Hammond MS physics
Hyannis, Cape Cod MA USA
ghamamond928@gmail.com

LOOK;    [S T A R M A K E R]:--

There are 3 KINDS OF PEOPLE

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
1.  People who KNOW what God is,
but can't SEE God  (e.g. Churchgoers)

2.  People who SEE what God is but don't
REALIZE  that it is God (Agnostic geniuses
such as you etc. )

3.  People who both KNOW what God is and
can SEE what God is (generally old people, or
historical prodigal geniuses such as Newton,
Einstein,  Roosevelt etc.)
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

YOU are in category 2, -- you learned to see
what God is at an early age, but you're only
beginning to recognize that it is the phenomena
called "God" !

Chris M Thomasson, the 3rd poster to this
thread---  clearly appears to be in category 1,
although he is apparently approaching category
3 due to advancing age?

I myself, am now in category 3, since I'm
82 years old and have been studying the
subject for decades  !

zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

[George Hammond]
OKAY [S T A R M A K E R],  YOU SAID
IN YOUR LASF POST:--

"Like everyone else you need proof..."

And then you quoted my 2 statements:--

"the microtubule system produces a dream"

"and it is the microtubule system which
watches the dream"

OKAY here I am trying to explain how a 5 µs
ultraviolet (UV) light flash in the water filled
microtubules of the brain can produce a
5- YEAR AFTERLIFE for the entire human body !

So let me give you a CLEARER DEMONSTRATION
of how the brain does this !

Suppose you have a COMPUTER which you can
DIVIDE into 2 halves.  In the first half you play a
five-year movie. While you use the 2nd half of the
computer as an "OBSERVER" of the movie.
    Now suppose you speed up the computer by a
factor of 10-trillion !  And you do the same thing
again.
    I am simply pointing out that the "observing half"
of the computer will still see a five-year movie
irregardless of how fast the computer is running !
THE SPEED OF THE COMPUTER IS IRRELEVANT
if both the movie projector and the movie observer
are running at the same speed  !!

THE POINT OF THIS is to explain HOW the brain can
produce a 5-YEAR AFTERLIFE of human consciousness
when in fact the human brain was being vaporized in
5 microseconds (like those sidewalk A-bomb
human shadows in Hiroshima) !

AND THE ANSWER IS-- that the microtubule system
in which this occurs-- routinely runs 10 TRILLION times
faster than the ordinary neuronal system of the brain
(e.g. at the frequency of ultraviolet light 10^15 hertz)  !!

Hope this clarifies how Life after Death so called,
actually works !

Geo Hammond  MS physics Hyannis 12/2/24
.

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#890324

George Hammond wrote:
> 
> On 12/2/2024 12:17 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > Like everyone else you need proof...
> >
> > "the microtubule system produces a dream"
> >
> > "and it is the microtubule system which watches the dream"
> >
> >
> December 2, 2024
> Geo. Hammond MS physics
> Hyannis, Cape Cod MA USA
> ghamamond928@gmail.com
> 
> LOOK;    [S T A R M A K E R]:--
> 
> There are 3 KINDS OF PEOPLE
> 
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> 1.  People who KNOW what God is,
> but can't SEE God  (e.g. Churchgoers)
> 
> 2.  People who SEE what God is but don't
> REALIZE  that it is God (Agnostic geniuses
> such as you etc. )
> 
> 3.  People who both KNOW what God is and
> can SEE what God is (generally old people, or
> historical prodigal geniuses such as Newton,
> Einstein,  Roosevelt etc.)
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> 
> YOU are in category 2, -- you learned to see
> what God is at an early age, but you're only
> beginning to recognize that it is the phenomena
> called "God" !
> 
> Chris M Thomasson, the 3rd poster to this
> thread---  clearly appears to be in category 1,
> although he is apparently approaching category
> 3 due to advancing age?
> 
> I myself, am now in category 3, since I'm
> 82 years old and have been studying the
> subject for decades  !
> 
> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> 
> [George Hammond]
> OKAY [S T A R M A K E R],  YOU SAID
> IN YOUR LASF POST:--
> 
> "Like everyone else you need proof..."
> 
> And then you quoted my 2 statements:--
> 
> "the microtubule system produces a dream"
> 
> "and it is the microtubule system which
> watches the dream"
> 
> OKAY here I am trying to explain how a 5 µs
> ultraviolet (UV) light flash in the water filled
> microtubules of the brain can produce a
> 5- YEAR AFTERLIFE for the entire human body !
> 
> So let me give you a CLEARER DEMONSTRATION
> of how the brain does this !
> 
> Suppose you have a COMPUTER which you can
> DIVIDE into 2 halves.  In the first half you play a
> five-year movie. While you use the 2nd half of the
> computer as an "OBSERVER" of the movie.
>     Now suppose you speed up the computer by a
> factor of 10-trillion !  And you do the same thing
> again.
>     I am simply pointing out that the "observing half"
> of the computer will still see a five-year movie
> irregardless of how fast the computer is running !
> THE SPEED OF THE COMPUTER IS IRRELEVANT
> if both the movie projector and the movie observer
> are running at the same speed  !!
> 
> THE POINT OF THIS is to explain HOW the brain can
> produce a 5-YEAR AFTERLIFE of human consciousness
> when in fact the human brain was being vaporized in
> 5 microseconds (like those sidewalk A-bomb
> human shadows in Hiroshima) !
> 
> AND THE ANSWER IS-- that the microtubule system
> in which this occurs-- routinely runs 10 TRILLION times
> faster than the ordinary neuronal system of the brain
> (e.g. at the frequency of ultraviolet light 10^15 hertz)  !!
> 
> Hope this clarifies how Life after Death so called,
> actually works !
> 
> Geo Hammond  MS physics Hyannis 12/2/24
> .

I don't think you understand...

there is no God.

You're just an ant
crawling on the surface
of the earth..
searching for food.




-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890325

On 12/2/24 22:43, The Starmaker wrote:
> George Hammond wrote:
>>
>> On 12/2/2024 12:17 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>>> Like everyone else you need proof...
>>>
>>> "the microtubule system produces a dream"
>>>
>>> "and it is the microtubule system which watches the dream"
>>>
>>>
>> December 2, 2024
>> Geo. Hammond MS physics
>> Hyannis, Cape Cod MA USA
>> ghamamond928@gmail.com
>>
>> LOOK;    [S T A R M A K E R]:--
>>
>> There are 3 KINDS OF PEOPLE
>>
>> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>> 1.  People who KNOW what God is,
>> but can't SEE God  (e.g. Churchgoers)
>>
>> 2.  People who SEE what God is but don't
>> REALIZE  that it is God (Agnostic geniuses
>> such as you etc. )
>>
>> 3.  People who both KNOW what God is and
>> can SEE what God is (generally old people, or
>> historical prodigal geniuses such as Newton,
>> Einstein,  Roosevelt etc.)
>> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>
>> YOU are in category 2, -- you learned to see
>> what God is at an early age, but you're only
>> beginning to recognize that it is the phenomena
>> called "God" !
>>
>> Chris M Thomasson, the 3rd poster to this
>> thread---  clearly appears to be in category 1,
>> although he is apparently approaching category
>> 3 due to advancing age?
>>
>> I myself, am now in category 3, since I'm
>> 82 years old and have been studying the
>> subject for decades  !
>>
>> zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
>>
>> [George Hammond]
>> OKAY [S T A R M A K E R],  YOU SAID
>> IN YOUR LASF POST:--
>>
>> "Like everyone else you need proof..."
>>
>> And then you quoted my 2 statements:--
>>
>> "the microtubule system produces a dream"
>>
>> "and it is the microtubule system which
>> watches the dream"
>>
>> OKAY here I am trying to explain how a 5 µs
>> ultraviolet (UV) light flash in the water filled
>> microtubules of the brain can produce a
>> 5- YEAR AFTERLIFE for the entire human body !
>>
>> So let me give you a CLEARER DEMONSTRATION
>> of how the brain does this !
>>
>> Suppose you have a COMPUTER which you can
>> DIVIDE into 2 halves.  In the first half you play a
>> five-year movie. While you use the 2nd half of the
>> computer as an "OBSERVER" of the movie.
>>      Now suppose you speed up the computer by a
>> factor of 10-trillion !  And you do the same thing
>> again.
>>      I am simply pointing out that the "observing half"
>> of the computer will still see a five-year movie
>> irregardless of how fast the computer is running !
>> THE SPEED OF THE COMPUTER IS IRRELEVANT
>> if both the movie projector and the movie observer
>> are running at the same speed  !!
>>
>> THE POINT OF THIS is to explain HOW the brain can
>> produce a 5-YEAR AFTERLIFE of human consciousness
>> when in fact the human brain was being vaporized in
>> 5 microseconds (like those sidewalk A-bomb
>> human shadows in Hiroshima) !
>>
>> AND THE ANSWER IS-- that the microtubule system
>> in which this occurs-- routinely runs 10 TRILLION times
>> faster than the ordinary neuronal system of the brain
>> (e.g. at the frequency of ultraviolet light 10^15 hertz)  !!
>>
>> Hope this clarifies how Life after Death so called,
>> actually works !
>>
>> Geo Hammond  MS physics Hyannis 12/2/24
>> .
> 
> I don't think you understand...
> 
> there is no God.
> 
> You're just an ant
> crawling on the surface
> of the earth..
> searching for food.

Disbelief in a pantheist god
is disbelief in the existence
of the universe.

Some however might call that
philosophic idealism rather
than philosophic materialism.

It might vary whether people
might consider that good, bad,
or somewhere in between.

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#890338

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> George Hammond wrote:
> >
> > On 12/2/2024 12:17 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > > Like everyone else you need proof...
> > >
> > > "the microtubule system produces a dream"
> > >
> > > "and it is the microtubule system which watches the dream"
> > >
> > >
> > December 2, 2024
> > Geo. Hammond MS physics
> > Hyannis, Cape Cod MA USA
> > ghamamond928@gmail.com
> >
> > LOOK;    [S T A R M A K E R]:--
> >
> > There are 3 KINDS OF PEOPLE
> >
> > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> > 1.  People who KNOW what God is,
> > but can't SEE God  (e.g. Churchgoers)
> >
> > 2.  People who SEE what God is but don't
> > REALIZE  that it is God (Agnostic geniuses
> > such as you etc. )
> >
> > 3.  People who both KNOW what God is and
> > can SEE what God is (generally old people, or
> > historical prodigal geniuses such as Newton,
> > Einstein,  Roosevelt etc.)
> > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >
> > YOU are in category 2, -- you learned to see
> > what God is at an early age, but you're only
> > beginning to recognize that it is the phenomena
> > called "God" !
> >
> > Chris M Thomasson, the 3rd poster to this
> > thread---  clearly appears to be in category 1,
> > although he is apparently approaching category
> > 3 due to advancing age?
> >
> > I myself, am now in category 3, since I'm
> > 82 years old and have been studying the
> > subject for decades  !
> >
> > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
> >
> > [George Hammond]
> > OKAY [S T A R M A K E R],  YOU SAID
> > IN YOUR LASF POST:--
> >
> > "Like everyone else you need proof..."
> >
> > And then you quoted my 2 statements:--
> >
> > "the microtubule system produces a dream"
> >
> > "and it is the microtubule system which
> > watches the dream"
> >
> > OKAY here I am trying to explain how a 5 µs
> > ultraviolet (UV) light flash in the water filled
> > microtubules of the brain can produce a
> > 5- YEAR AFTERLIFE for the entire human body !
> >
> > So let me give you a CLEARER DEMONSTRATION
> > of how the brain does this !
> >
> > Suppose you have a COMPUTER which you can
> > DIVIDE into 2 halves.  In the first half you play a
> > five-year movie. While you use the 2nd half of the
> > computer as an "OBSERVER" of the movie.
> >     Now suppose you speed up the computer by a
> > factor of 10-trillion !  And you do the same thing
> > again.
> >     I am simply pointing out that the "observing half"
> > of the computer will still see a five-year movie
> > irregardless of how fast the computer is running !
> > THE SPEED OF THE COMPUTER IS IRRELEVANT
> > if both the movie projector and the movie observer
> > are running at the same speed  !!
> >
> > THE POINT OF THIS is to explain HOW the brain can
> > produce a 5-YEAR AFTERLIFE of human consciousness
> > when in fact the human brain was being vaporized in
> > 5 microseconds (like those sidewalk A-bomb
> > human shadows in Hiroshima) !
> >
> > AND THE ANSWER IS-- that the microtubule system
> > in which this occurs-- routinely runs 10 TRILLION times
> > faster than the ordinary neuronal system of the brain
> > (e.g. at the frequency of ultraviolet light 10^15 hertz)  !!
> >
> > Hope this clarifies how Life after Death so called,
> > actually works !
> >
> > Geo Hammond  MS physics Hyannis 12/2/24
> > .
> 
> I don't think you understand...
> 
> there is no God.
> 
> You're just an ant
> crawling on the surface
> of the earth..
> searching for food.
> 

...and if you look
down..
all the way down...
it's ants
all the way down.

And one ant..
an Atom Ant...
in the center
of the Atom
is 
another ant.










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to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890339

Is there an afterlife?

And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?

Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
consciousness?

Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?

Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.

But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
time of death?

Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
registered.

I think that the same thing happens to every human.

Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.

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#890344

On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
 >
> Is there an afterlife?
>
[Hammond]
YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
the animals "growth curve deficit".
    And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
 >
> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
>
[Hammond]
YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
    And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
since they do not have a brain.
 >
> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
> consciousness?
>
[Hammond]
All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
> 
> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
>
[Hammond]
Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
>
 >
> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
> 
> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
> time of death?
> 
> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
> registered.
> 
> I think that the same thing happens to every human.
> 
> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
 >
[Hammond}
Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of 
EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
    I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we 
try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
 >
Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
 >
Best regards, George

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#890345

George Hammond wrote:
> 
> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
>  >
> > Is there an afterlife?
> >
> [Hammond]
> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
> the animals "growth curve deficit".
>     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
>  >
> > And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
> >
> [Hammond]
> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
>     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
> since they do not have a brain.
>  >
> > Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
> > consciousness?
> >
> [Hammond]
> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
> >
> > Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
> >
> [Hammond]
> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
> >
>  >
> > Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
> > everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
> > living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
> > until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
> > to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
> >
> > But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
> > accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
> > complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
> > just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
> > time of death?
> >
> > Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
> > until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
> > registered.
> >
> > I think that the same thing happens to every human.
> >
> > Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
> > dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
>  >
> [Hammond}
> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
>     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we
> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
>  >
> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
>  >
> Best regards, George

The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.

Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
you can fly.


Can yous people not learn from Nature? 


A caterpillar crawls on the ground...

then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
it flys ...you call it...butterfly.


There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????






-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890346

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> George Hammond wrote:
> >
> > On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
> >  >
> > > Is there an afterlife?
> > >
> > [Hammond]
> > YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
> > WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
> > the animals "growth curve deficit".
> >     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
> > 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
> >  >
> > > And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
> > >
> > [Hammond]
> > YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
> > AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
> > which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
> >     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
> > since they do not have a brain.
> >  >
> > > Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
> > > consciousness?
> > >
> > [Hammond]
> > All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
> > on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
> > World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
> > ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
> > when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
> > achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
> > >
> > > Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
> > >
> > [Hammond]
> > Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
> > >
> >  >
> > > Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
> > > everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
> > > living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
> > > until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
> > > to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
> > >
> > > But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
> > > accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
> > > complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
> > > just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
> > > time of death?
> > >
> > > Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
> > > until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
> > > registered.
> > >
> > > I think that the same thing happens to every human.
> > >
> > > Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
> > > dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
> >  >
> > [Hammond}
> > Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
> > EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
> >     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we
> > try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
> >  >
> > Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
> >  >
> > Best regards, George
> 
> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
> 
> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
> you can fly.
> 
> Can yous people not learn from Nature?
> 
> A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
> 
> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
> it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
> 
> There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????

i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever, 

BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!

i don't have time to deprogrames yous.


THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!


It...NowLife.

NextLife. Next-to-Life.

for example..

people say
"You look like your Mother!"

or 
"You look like your Father!"

or
"You look like your Mother and your Father!!"

YOU ARE your mother and your father!

You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)


Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.


It IS her x.

just a smaller version...


i don't have time to deprogrames yous.







-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#890361

On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> George Hammond wrote:
>>>
>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
>>>   >
>>>> Is there an afterlife?
>>>>
>>> [Hammond]
>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
>>> the animals "growth curve deficit".
>>>      And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
>>>   >
>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
>>>>
>>> [Hammond]
>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
>>>      And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
>>> since they do not have a brain.
>>>   >
>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
>>>> consciousness?
>>>>
>>> [Hammond]
>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
>>>>
>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
>>>>
>>> [Hammond]
>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
>>>>
>>>   >
>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
>>>>
>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
>>>> time of death?
>>>>
>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
>>>> registered.
>>>>
>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human.
>>>>
>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
>>>   >
>>> [Hammond}
>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
>>>      I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we
>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
>>>   >
>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
>>>   >
>>> Best regards, George
>>
>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
>>
>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
>> you can fly.
>>
>> Can yous people not learn from Nature?
>>
>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
>>
>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
>>
>> There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????
> 
> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,
> 
> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
> 
> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> 
> 
> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!
> 
> 
> It...NowLife.
> 
> NextLife. Next-to-Life.
> 
> for example..
> 
> people say
> "You look like your Mother!"
> 
> or
> "You look like your Father!"
> 
> or
> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!"
> 
> YOU ARE your mother and your father!
> 
> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)
> 
> 
> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.
> 
> 
> It IS her x.
> 
> just a smaller version...
> 
> 
> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.

Yes you will die and it is feasible that your
brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of
other people before you, however some are cooked
into black carbon that is burned and your bones
will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly
over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders.  Most
embalming does not even suppress maggots.

Like others here you are not interested in creating
any sort of afterlife for either you or anyone else.

Einstein was incinerated mostly back in the 1950s,
with some of his brain being preserved against his
wishes.  Carl Sagan has already died of Leukemia, and
who knows how far away the SETI aliens might be if they
exist.  Billions of people are still incessantly corralled
to their death in a manner similar to time immemorial,
which in the physical world appears to be a fate worse
than hell, visited upon everyone no matter how good or
bad they have been, against which there is no repeal.

If only people did not want sex, then they would not
curse children with something called life, leading
to pain and turmoil resulting in inevitable doom.

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#890365

On 12/5/2024 4:04 PM, x wrote:
> On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>
>>> George Hammond wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
>>>>   >
>>>>> Is there an afterlife?
>>>>>
>>>> [Hammond]
>>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
>>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
>>>> the animals "growth curve deficit".
>>>>      And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
>>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
>>>>   >
>>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
>>>>>
>>>> [Hammond]
>>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
>>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
>>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
>>>>      And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
>>>> since they do not have a brain.
>>>>   >
>>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
>>>>> consciousness?
>>>>>
>>>> [Hammond]
>>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
>>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
>>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
>>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
>>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
>>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
>>>>>
>>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
>>>>>
>>>> [Hammond]
>>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
>>>>>
>>>>   >
>>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms 
>>>>> from
>>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
>>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
>>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding 
>>>>> atoms
>>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
>>>>>
>>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
>>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
>>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
>>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
>>>>> time of death?
>>>>>
>>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
>>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
>>>>> registered.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human.
>>>>>
>>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
>>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
>>>>   >
>>>> [Hammond}
>>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
>>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
>>>>      I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife 
>>>> before we
>>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
>>>>   >
>>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
>>>>   >
>>>> Best regards, George
>>>
>>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
>>>
>>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
>>> you can fly.
>>>
>>> Can yous people not learn from Nature?
>>>
>>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
>>>
>>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
>>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
>>>
>>> There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????
>>
>> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,
>>
>> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
>>
>> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
>>
>>
>> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!
>>
>>
>> It...NowLife.
>>
>> NextLife. Next-to-Life.
>>
>> for example..
>>
>> people say
>> "You look like your Mother!"
>>
>> or
>> "You look like your Father!"
>>
>> or
>> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!"
>>
>> YOU ARE your mother and your father!
>>
>> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)
>>
>>
>> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.
>>
>>
>> It IS her x.
>>
>> just a smaller version...
>>
>>
>> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> 
> Yes you will die and it is feasible that your
> brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of
> other people before you, however some are cooked
> into black carbon that is burned and your bones
> will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly
> over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders.  Most
> embalming does not even suppress maggots.

What about the people who died right around a nuclear blast? Poor souls.


> 
> Like others here you are not interested in creating
> any sort of afterlife for either you or anyone else.
> 
> Einstein was incinerated mostly back in the 1950s,
> with some of his brain being preserved against his
> wishes.  Carl Sagan has already died of Leukemia, and
> who knows how far away the SETI aliens might be if they
> exist.  Billions of people are still incessantly corralled
> to their death in a manner similar to time immemorial,
> which in the physical world appears to be a fate worse
> than hell, visited upon everyone no matter how good or
> bad they have been, against which there is no repeal.
> 
> If only people did not want sex, then they would not
> curse children with something called life, leading
> to pain and turmoil resulting in inevitable doom.
> 
> 

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#890366

Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> 
> On 12/5/2024 4:04 PM, x wrote:
> > On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>
> >>> George Hammond wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>>> Is there an afterlife?
> >>>>>
> >>>> [Hammond]
> >>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
> >>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
> >>>> the animals "growth curve deficit".
> >>>> Â Â Â Â  And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
> >>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
> >>>>>
> >>>> [Hammond]
> >>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
> >>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
> >>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
> >>>> Â Â Â Â  And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
> >>>> since they do not have a brain.
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
> >>>>> consciousness?
> >>>>>
> >>>> [Hammond]
> >>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
> >>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
> >>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
> >>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
> >>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
> >>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
> >>>>>
> >>>> [Hammond]
> >>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
> >>>>>
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms
> >>>>> from
> >>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
> >>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
> >>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding
> >>>>> atoms
> >>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
> >>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
> >>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
> >>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
> >>>>> time of death?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
> >>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
> >>>>> registered.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
> >>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>> [Hammond}
> >>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
> >>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
> >>>> Â Â Â Â  I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife
> >>>> before we
> >>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
> >>>> Â  >
> >>>> Best regards, George
> >>>
> >>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
> >>>
> >>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
> >>> you can fly.
> >>>
> >>> Can yous people not learn from Nature?
> >>>
> >>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
> >>>
> >>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
> >>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
> >>>
> >>> There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????
> >>
> >> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,
> >>
> >> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
> >>
> >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> >>
> >>
> >> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!
> >>
> >>
> >> It...NowLife.
> >>
> >> NextLife. Next-to-Life.
> >>
> >> for example..
> >>
> >> people say
> >> "You look like your Mother!"
> >>
> >> or
> >> "You look like your Father!"
> >>
> >> or
> >> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!"
> >>
> >> YOU ARE your mother and your father!
> >>
> >> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)
> >>
> >>
> >> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.
> >>
> >>
> >> It IS her x.
> >>
> >> just a smaller version...
> >>
> >>
> >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> >
> > Yes you will die and it is feasible that your
> > brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of
> > other people before you, however some are cooked
> > into black carbon that is burned and your bones
> > will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly
> > over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders.  Most
> > embalming does not even suppress maggots.
> 
> What about the people who died right around a nuclear blast? Poor souls.



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#890367

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Chris M. Thomasson wrote:
> >
> > On 12/5/2024 4:04 PM, x wrote:
> > > On 12/5/24 09:18, The Starmaker wrote:
> > >> The Starmaker wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> George Hammond wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>>> Is there an afterlife?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> [Hammond]
> > >>>> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
> > >>>> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
> > >>>> the animals "growth curve deficit".
> > >>>> Â Â Â Â  And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
> > >>>> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> [Hammond]
> > >>>> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
> > >>>> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
> > >>>> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
> > >>>> Â Â Â Â  And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
> > >>>> since they do not have a brain.
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
> > >>>>> consciousness?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> [Hammond]
> > >>>> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
> > >>>> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
> > >>>> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
> > >>>> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
> > >>>> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
> > >>>> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> [Hammond]
> > >>>> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
> > >>>>>
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms
> > >>>>> from
> > >>>>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
> > >>>>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
> > >>>>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding
> > >>>>> atoms
> > >>>>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
> > >>>>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
> > >>>>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
> > >>>>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
> > >>>>> time of death?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
> > >>>>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
> > >>>>> registered.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I think that the same thing happens to every human.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
> > >>>>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>> [Hammond}
> > >>>> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
> > >>>> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
> > >>>> Â Â Â Â  I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife
> > >>>> before we
> > >>>> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
> > >>>> Â  >
> > >>>> Best regards, George
> > >>>
> > >>> The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
> > >>>
> > >>> Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
> > >>> you can fly.
> > >>>
> > >>> Can yous people not learn from Nature?
> > >>>
> > >>> A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
> > >>>
> > >>> then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
> > >>> it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
> > >>>
> > >>> There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????
> > >>
> > >> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,
> > >>
> > >> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
> > >>
> > >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It...NowLife.
> > >>
> > >> NextLife. Next-to-Life.
> > >>
> > >> for example..
> > >>
> > >> people say
> > >> "You look like your Mother!"
> > >>
> > >> or
> > >> "You look like your Father!"
> > >>
> > >> or
> > >> "You look like your Mother and your Father!!"
> > >>
> > >> YOU ARE your mother and your father!
> > >>
> > >> You are a mutant. (for a lack of a better word)
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Some mothers hate their son because he looks like her ex.
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> It IS her x.
> > >>
> > >> just a smaller version...
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> > >
> > > Yes you will die and it is feasible that your
> > > brain will be eaten by maggots like billions of
> > > other people before you, however some are cooked
> > > into black carbon that is burned and your bones
> > > will be crushed into a calcium powder using possibly
> > > over 10 gallons of propane and bone grinders.  Most
> > > embalming does not even suppress maggots.
> >
> > What about the people who died right around a nuclear blast? Poor souls.
> 
> https://freight.cargo.site/w/900/i/fbe8571d3c77bbcc5bad53af991716ec6a9b7b82edd84537664f72e4e2e0c8f9/Blandy-and-wife-with-musshroom-cake.jpg


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#890395

The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > George Hammond wrote:
> > >
> > > On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
> > >  >
> > > > Is there an afterlife?
> > > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
> > > WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
> > > the animals "growth curve deficit".
> > >     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
> > > 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
> > >  >
> > > > And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
> > > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
> > > AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
> > > which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
> > >     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
> > > since they do not have a brain.
> > >  >
> > > > Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
> > > > consciousness?
> > > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
> > > on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
> > > World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
> > > ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
> > > when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
> > > achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
> > > >
> > > > Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
> > > >
> > > [Hammond]
> > > Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
> > > >
> > >  >
> > > > Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
> > > > everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
> > > > living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
> > > > until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
> > > > to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
> > > >
> > > > But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
> > > > accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
> > > > complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
> > > > just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
> > > > time of death?
> > > >
> > > > Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
> > > > until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
> > > > registered.
> > > >
> > > > I think that the same thing happens to every human.
> > > >
> > > > Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
> > > > dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
> > >  >
> > > [Hammond}
> > > Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of
> > > EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
> > >     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we
> > > try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
> > >  >
> > > Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
> > >  >
> > > Best regards, George
> >
> > The 8th dimension is not an Afterlife. It is a Next-to-Life.
> >
> > Now, you crawl on the surface of the earth. In the 8th dimension
> > you can fly.
> >
> > Can yous people not learn from Nature?
> >
> > A caterpillar crawls on the ground...
> >
> > then it goes into Next-to-Life (Not AfterLife) and
> > it flys ...you call it...butterfly.
> >
> > There  is no BeforeLife. When does Before Begin????
> 
> i know yous people have been brainwashed...like forever,
> 
> BUT YOUS DON'T UNDERSTAND!
> 
> i don't have time to deprogrames yous.
> 
> THERE IS NO BEFORELIFE!
> 
> It...NowLife.
> 
> NextLife. Next-to-Life.

I call it Next-to-Life/The 8th dimension

the Army calls it...

The Gateway Process

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-14166719/Secret-Pentagon-study-reincarnation-consciousness-Monroe-Institute-Gateway.html


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#890364

On 12/5/2024 6:23 AM, George Hammond wrote:
> On 12/4/2024 1:50 PM, rhertz wrote:
>  >
>> Is there an afterlife?
>>
> [Hammond]
> YES... Every adult animal who is less than 100% fully grown
> WILL EXPERIENCE an AFTERLIFE whose length is proportional to
> the animals "growth curve deficit".
>     And since no animal, including humans, have ever reached
> 100% full growth... everyone will experience an Afterlife !
>  >
>> And if it exists, is it valid for every species in the Universe?
>>
> [Hammond]
> YES.... every species that has a "brain" will experience an
> AFTERLIFE if it less than 100% fully grown at adulthood...
> which by simple observation seems to include all of them!
>     And BTW it is doubtful that plants have an Afterlife,
> since they do not have a brain.
>  >
>> Or only for species with consciousness. Do all humans have
>> consciousness?
>>
> [Hammond]
> All animals with a brain have "consciousness", and no animal
> on Earth has ever achived 100% full growth (the average
> World adult animal is only 85% fully grown including humans)
> ..therefore all animals and all people go to "Heaven"
> when they die... Biologically speaking this is necessary to
> achieve the remaining 15% of the complete growth of the animal. !
>>
>> Have insects consciousness? And dolphins, wolves, dogs, birds?
>>
> [Hammond]
> Yep.... every living animal goes to Heaven when it dies !
>>
>  >
>> Before they are born, they don't exist. Every species gather atoms from
>> everywhere, with particular rules about how they got together into a
>> living form. Once born, every species keep gathering atoms to grow,
>> until the embedded time-out tells every organism to start shedding atoms
>> to the surrounding space, until they cease to do it and die.
>>
>> But consciousness is immaterial, so it's based on a delicate
>> accumulation of bunches of energy, which are interconnected in very
>> complex ways. Memories, feelings, patterns of behavior, needs, etc.,
>> just accumulate and vanish randomly while growing. What remains by the
>> time of death?
>>
>> Life looks like the Big Bang Theory. It's created from nothing, grows
>> until it decay and disappear. What remains? NOTHING that can be
>> registered.
>>
>> I think that the same thing happens to every human.
>>
>> Nothing remains, nor matter neither energy. Life is like a chain of
>> dreams, and time is something that doesn't exist.
>  >
> [Hammond}
> Well now you're going into an esoteric dissertation on the theory of 
> EVERYTHING which goes way way beyond the theory of an AFTERLIFE !
>     I suggest we try to nail down the theory of the Afterlife before we 
> try to propose a "THEORY OF EVERYTHING"
>  >
> Meanwhile, thanks for a VERY INTERESTING and highly INTELLECTUAL post !
>  >
> Best regards, George

So you know what happens after we die... Okay... You should start a new 
religion. lol. Put a dollar in the box. lol.

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