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Carl Sagan

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First post2023-12-16 12:40 -0800
Last post2024-01-03 12:43 -0800
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  Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-16 12:40 -0800
    Re: Carl Sagan David Dalton <dalton@nfld.com> - 2023-12-16 18:11 -0330
    Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-16 19:12 -0600
      Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-16 21:08 -0800
        Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-16 23:14 -0600
          Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-16 21:30 -0800
            Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-16 23:44 -0600
              Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 13:04 -0800
                Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 15:55 -0600
                Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 16:39 -0600
                  Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 15:28 -0800
                    Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 21:16 -0600
                      Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 21:26 -0800
                        Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 23:58 -0600
                Re: Carl Sagan Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-19 00:06 -0500
                  Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-18 21:45 -0800
                    Re: Carl Sagan Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-19 01:01 -0500
                      Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-18 22:41 -0800
                        Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-18 23:08 -0800
                        Re: Carl Sagan Volney <volney@invalid.invalid> - 2023-12-19 14:26 -0500
                          Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-19 12:39 -0800
                  Re: Carl Sagan Rupert Parr <turr@reaetper.rr> - 2023-12-22 01:08 +0000
        Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-16 23:36 -0600
          Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 00:05 -0600
            Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 11:48 -0600
              Re: Carl Sagan The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-17 12:14 -0800
                Re: Carl Sagan Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-17 14:33 -0600
    Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-22 21:13 -0800
      Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-22 23:32 -0600
        Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-22 23:20 -0800
        Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-22 23:21 -0800
          Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-27 23:17 -0800
        Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-23 02:17 -0600
          Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2023-12-23 05:02 -0800
            Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-23 12:13 -0600
              Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-23 14:32 -0800
                Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-26 22:03 -0800
                  Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-27 12:25 -0800
                    Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-27 18:19 -0600
                      Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-27 21:17 -0800
                        Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-28 18:17 -0600
                          Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-28 20:11 -0800
                            Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-30 13:15 -0800
                              Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-30 19:10 -0600
                                Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-30 20:14 -0600
                                  Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-30 19:29 -0800
                                  Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-30 20:28 -0800
                                    Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-30 22:45 -0600
                                      Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-12-31 11:53 -0800
                                        Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-31 21:36 -0600
                                  Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-01-03 01:14 -0800
                              Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2024-01-03 01:20 -0800
                  Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2023-12-27 18:18 -0600
            Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2023-12-28 00:39 -0800
      Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2024-01-21 13:20 -0800
        Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps Physfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com> - 2024-01-21 20:33 -0600
    Re: Carl Sagan "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-12-24 10:50 -0800
    Re: Carl Sagan Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2024-01-03 12:43 -0800

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#884159 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-28 18:17 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<uml37l$flab$1@solani.org>
In reply to#884133
On 12/27/2023 11:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>> On 12/27/2023 2:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> if there are 6 million mistakes, nature sends somebody to fix the
>>> mistake.
>>
>> Do you think you, Star, are a mistake?
> 
> This is Usenet here...
> 
> i was sent here to correct the mistakes.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


Did one of the mistakes send you here?

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#884163 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-12-28 20:11 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<658E46FC.4699@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#884159
Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/27/2023 11:17 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/27/2023 2:25 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>> if there are 6 million mistakes, nature sends somebody to fix the
> >>> mistake.
> >>
> >> Do you think you, Star, are a mistake?
> >
> > This is Usenet here...
> >
> > i was sent here to correct the mistakes.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> 
> Did one of the mistakes send you here?


The Earth is a mistake. 

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#884186 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-12-30 13:15 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<65908887.4660@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#884163
The Starmaker wrote:

> 
> The Earth is a mistake.


The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
mistake.


come on, from dinosaurs to people? 


the earth doesn't know what to do.

you weren't suppose to be here...

yous are a mistake.


i don't even know how you got through.







-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#884194 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-30 19:10 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<umqf1m$i94g$7@solani.org>
In reply to#884186
On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
>>
>> The Earth is a mistake.
> 
> 
> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
> mistake.
> 
> 
> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
> 
> 
> the earth doesn't know what to do.
> 
> you weren't suppose to be here...
> 
> yous are a mistake.
> 
> 
> i don't even know how you got through.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.

Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to 
have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the 
combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and 
leads to what you see now.

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#884195 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-30 20:14 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<umqipi$if4s$1@solani.org>
In reply to#884194
On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> The Earth is a mistake.
>>
>>
>> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
>> mistake.
>>
>>
>> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
>>
>>
>> the earth doesn't know what to do.
>>
>> you weren't suppose to be here...
>>
>> yous are a mistake.
>>
>>
>> i don't even know how you got through.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.
> 
> Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to 
> have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the 
> combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and 
> leads to what you see now.


Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a 
silly situation."

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#884196 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-12-30 19:29 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<6590E022.156E@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#884195
Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The Earth is a mistake.
> >>
> >>
> >> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
> >> mistake.
> >>
> >>
> >> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
> >>
> >>
> >> the earth doesn't know what to do.
> >>
> >> you weren't suppose to be here...
> >>
> >> yous are a mistake.
> >>
> >>
> >> i don't even know how you got through.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.
> >
> > Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
> > have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the
> > combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
> > leads to what you see now.
> 
> Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
> silly situation."



next you'll be quoting bob dylan...


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#884198 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-12-30 20:28 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<6590EE07.260A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#884195
Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> > On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >>>
> >>> The Earth is a mistake.
> >>
> >>
> >> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
> >> mistake.
> >>
> >>
> >> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
> >>
> >>
> >> the earth doesn't know what to do.
> >>
> >> you weren't suppose to be here...
> >>
> >> yous are a mistake.
> >>
> >>
> >> i don't even know how you got through.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >
> >
> > I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.
> >
> > Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
> > have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the
> > combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
> > leads to what you see now.
> 
> Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
> silly situation."


what you mean by silly situation...is a gag.

a big universal
highly complicated and
fantastically conceived
pratical joke
being played on you...
isn't it?


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#884199 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-30 22:45 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<umqrlv$k687$1@solani.org>
In reply to#884198
On 12/30/2023 10:28 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>> On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> The Earth is a mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
>>>> mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> the earth doesn't know what to do.
>>>>
>>>> you weren't suppose to be here...
>>>>
>>>> yous are a mistake.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> i don't even know how you got through.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.
>>>
>>> Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
>>> have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the
>>> combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
>>> leads to what you see now.
>>
>> Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
>> silly situation."
> 
> 
> what you mean by silly situation...is a gag.
> 
> a big universal
> highly complicated and
> fantastically conceived
> pratical joke
> being played on you...
> isn't it?
> 
> 

You're a silly situation.

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#884207 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-12-31 11:53 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<6591C69D.4D8F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#884199
Physfitfreak wrote:
> 
> On 12/30/2023 10:28 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>
> >> On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> >>> On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The Earth is a mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
> >>>> mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> the earth doesn't know what to do.
> >>>>
> >>>> you weren't suppose to be here...
> >>>>
> >>>> yous are a mistake.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> i don't even know how you got through.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.
> >>>
> >>> Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
> >>> have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the
> >>> combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
> >>> leads to what you see now.
> >>
> >> Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
> >> silly situation."
> >
> >
> > what you mean by silly situation...is a gag.
> >
> > a big universal
> > highly complicated and
> > fantastically conceived
> > pratical joke
> > being played on you...
> > isn't it?
> >
> >
> 
> You're a silly situation.

You're a Carl Sagan fan...tells us about those dinosaours on the planet
Venus?


-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#884212 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-31 21:36 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<umtc0q$le1s$1@solani.org>
In reply to#884207
On 12/31/2023 1:53 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>
>> On 12/30/2023 10:28 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The Earth is a mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a
>>>>>> mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> come on, from dinosaurs to people?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> the earth doesn't know what to do.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you weren't suppose to be here...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> yous are a mistake.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> i don't even know how you got through.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation.
>>>>>
>>>>> Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to
>>>>> have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the
>>>>> combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and
>>>>> leads to what you see now.
>>>>
>>>> Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a
>>>> silly situation."
>>>
>>>
>>> what you mean by silly situation...is a gag.
>>>
>>> a big universal
>>> highly complicated and
>>> fantastically conceived
>>> pratical joke
>>> being played on you...
>>> isn't it?
>>>
>>>
>>
>> You're a silly situation.
> 
> You're a Carl Sagan fan...tells us about those dinosaours on the planet
> Venus?
> 
> 

I'm not Sagan's fan, I'm pissed at him that he found out about what was 
happening to scientists in this country 10 years too late. He was happy 
inside his own dreams until it was absolutely too late. And then right 
away he died. At least he didn't last long to start a campaign or 
something.

Some schmuck like Kissinger can live 100 years, but Sagan, when he was 
needed, had barely finished his 50s. This is ridiculous. So the special 
position he had in this country regarding scientists went to total waste.

I have no doubt Kissinger and a whole lot of experienced and influential 
people were behind the changes that we saw started with Reagan. So 
Kissinger was needed for those who wanted this country to nose dive, and 
he took care of himself to last long enough to have ever better impact 
on the success of that course. 100 years!..

But Sagan, wakes up 10 years after the fact, drops a few sentences about 
the matter, then drops dead. I'm no fan of a person like that.


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#884247 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2024-01-03 01:14 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<1d5fbbf2-980e-4a9b-8016-2275045042aan@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#884195
On Sunday 31 December 2023 at 13:14:15 UTC+11, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 12/30/2023 7:10 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: 
> > On 12/30/2023 3:15 PM, The Starmaker wrote: 
> >> The Starmaker wrote: 
> >> 
> >>> 
> >>> The Earth is a mistake. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a 
> >> mistake. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> come on, from dinosaurs to people? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> the earth doesn't know what to do. 
> >> 
> >> you weren't suppose to be here... 
> >> 
> >> yous are a mistake. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> i don't even know how you got through. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> > 
> > 
> > I wouldn't call it a mistake, but a special situation. 
> > 
> > Matter can indeed form strange combinations. If one of them happens to 
> > have a simple drive about it for making its own copies as long as the 
> > combination and the drive are intact, then a life form has begun and 
> > leads to what you see now.
> Life is not even a "special situation." A better description is, "a 
> silly situation."
Come on Roachie, nothing silly about your sort fattening Chinese fish.

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#884248 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2024-01-03 01:20 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<67d855e1-1d77-46ca-a623-0c57ad2d221en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#884186
On Sunday 31 December 2023 at 08:15:34 UTC+11, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote: 
> 
> > 
> > The Earth is a mistake.
> The reason why yous don't see another earth is because the Earth is a 
> mistake. 

Nobody wants to be born. 
> 
> 
> come on, from dinosaurs to people? 

If dinosaurs were around 60 million years ago, what business have their fossils to be on the surface of the Earth?
They should have been covered up by earth, and so, be deep below the surface.
Are these fossils manufactured by the Einsteinian bullshitter types?
> 
> 
> the earth doesn't know what to do. 

It knows it has to take us in its voyage through space.
> 
> you weren't suppose to be here... 
> 
> yous are a mistake. 
> 
> 
> i don't even know how you got through.
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

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#884130 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-27 18:18 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<umiet5$eaer$1@solani.org>
In reply to#884121
On 12/27/2023 12:03 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Who is the biggest joke, Sagan or Velikovsky?


Americans who took Velikovsky for a scientist.

I don't call them "Joke" though. I call them Sheep.

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#884138 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-28 00:39 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<688d420d-9710-4df0-8187-4a932850eeafn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#884048
On Sunday 24 December 2023 at 00:02:55 UTC+11, Arindam Banerjee wrote:
> On Saturday 23 December 2023 at 19:18:03 UTC+11, Physfitfreak wrote: 
> > On 12/22/2023 11:32 PM, Physfitfreak wrote: 
> > > Cosmos was printed in 1980, a few years _after_ Russian probes on Venus 
> > > reported what was going on and that the possibility of life in those 
> > > condition were zilch.
> I remember reading a scifi novel of the 50s where the hero (USAn of course) was about to wipe out the Venusians.
> > Perhaps the above can be read to mean the opposite of what I was trying 
> > to say. Here I reword it. 
> > 
> > When Cosmos was printed, Russians had already investigated Venus's 
> > atmosphere as well as surface by their probes. But what you, Star, 
> > quoted indicates that Sagan didn't yet know about that, which is 
> > impossible. Cause it was directly along his line of scientific work in 
> > which he had like more than 500 papers!.. 
> > 
> > So, either you quoted it from an earlier Sagan work, at least 5 years 
> > earlier than when Cosmos came out, or the quote itself is tampered with. 
> > 
> > That was my point. I have no issues with your "perhaps" line of work :)
> Perhaps and ifs are the bread and butter of modern pseudophysicists, Roachie.


No perhapses and maybes and ifs in my elaboration of superior physics:

The violation of inertia with a new design rail gun in motor mode
Arindam Banerjee,
HTN Research Pty Ltd. Melbourne
10 Nov 2023
(All rights reserved)

https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/VtFeGAkIABg/m/CLPzLRElAwAJ

***

Experiments (2022) showing my invention of a new kind of rail gun
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYtyOMbgiZ0

Which is improved upon in, and its potential for ejecting matter into near space , and horizontal tunneling shown in
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6pjy0Wvujs&t=19s

and the following shows how a new class of linear motor violating inertia can be developed by arresting the momentum of the armature and imparting that to the whole system, giving it an increased velocity
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=idsIuzEajTc&t=2s

*****

Introduction to "A New Look Towards the Principles of Motion"
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/1wmee5C8mFs/kJMPdnFkAwAJ

Section 1
Linear Motion, Momentum, Force, Energy, Internal Force Engines, and the design of Interstellar Spacecraft
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/GbpQC3a2d1Q/jSXQeb9kAwAJ

Section 1 (contd.)
Linear Motion, Momentum, Force, Energy, Internal Force Engines, and the design of Interstellar Spacecraft
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/P9ZiinIDhHU/ZtMQVyliBQAJ

Section 2
The Creation and Destruction of Energy
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/wY6_9V8ucSY/3nnJQk9iBQAJ

Section 3
The Structure of Heavenly Bodies
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/8jH-SQIFFDo/O1jn3HpiBQAJ

Section 4
The Nature of Explosion
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/7TkOVZigFHg/uv43_aZiBQAJ

Section 5
The forces involved in rotational motion
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/sci.physics/jhgcsTq-NrQ/ZBwG8S9jBQAJ

*******

2017 videos of rail gun experiments with theory in detail

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hqBfwAClVlg
IFE - 1 Ground Experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9eGq4Oiv9s
IFE - 2 Experimental setups

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V3hC48BMrno
IFE - 3 Pendulum experiments

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3sSPxGsLkws
IFE - 4 Evolution of spaceship

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJdM6UDPauU
IFE - 5 Hydrogen Transmission Network

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TUAcx7rAplc
IFE - 6 Spaceship Design

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5Zbpvc3fdA
IFE - 7 Anti-Gravity

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VA9LUwqMhxY
IFE - 8 New Physics

****
The physics aphorisms of Arindam
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/8HgH3sbRe94/m/gYzu9OAkAgAJ

The cause of gravity 
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/mmigkl3yZYc/m/8Rs16NCXAAAJ

Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories - 1
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/6UIGDNHH7n0/m/U0t-kYqgAAAJ

Explaining the nova and supernova phenomena with new physics theories - 2
https://groups.google.com/g/sci.physics/c/CffbGTXV72c/m/5ONP6J6gAAAJ

*****

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#884569 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2024-01-21 13:20 -0800
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<gg1rqip8f75sa25cn4njh2topulrq6gqkl@4ax.com>
In reply to#884037
Now, do yous know where Carl Sagan got the idea of
the title of the book..."Cosmos"????


Of course, he got the idea from...The Babylon's

(and probably the whole entire bible of theirs!)


Carl Sagan stole The Babylon's idea of their book,
which was
'the origin and the order of the universe as a whole'...
'the primary purpose of the universe'

and that is  what Carl Sagan brought about in...Cosmos.


He finished The Babylon book.


He just omitted the 'people' stories in the book.


He focused on 'the origin and the order of the universe as a whole'.


stolen from the babylons.



like everybody else did..


except everybody else stole the 'people' ideas...


Dinosaurs on Venus??? 



is dat from the babylons or did he just made that up? embellish.


(he got bored with his own book)



Boy, dat Cosmos PBS TV series had to be the most boring show on
earth!!!








On Fri, 22 Dec 2023 21:13:14 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Sat, 16 Dec 2023 12:40:11 -0800, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>Carl Edward Sagan  was an American astronomer and science communicator. 
>>His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life.
>>He assembled the first physical messages sent into space
>>which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them.
>>
>>
>>Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere. 
>>
>>
>>That means a space nut. 
>
>
>PERHAPS
>
>
>per·haps
>/p?r'(h)aps/
>adverb
>used to express uncertainty or possibility.
>
>https://www.google.com/search?q=define+perhaps
>
>
>Perhaps.
>
>Carl Sagan was a con artist. Instead of saying "possibility", he
>would say over and over..."perhaps".
>
>
>They say that Carl Sagan only wrote one science fiction book, Contact.
>
>Cosmos is one of the bestselling science books of all time!
>
>Is it science fiction or non-fiction????
>
>Perhaps it's really a science fiction book.
>
>
>just a few Quotes from the book Cosmos by Carl Sagan:
>
>
>
>In all the galaxies, there are
>perhaps as many planets as stars
>
>Perhaps many stars have planetary systems rather like
>our own: at the periphery, great gaseous ringed planets and icy
>moons, and nearer to the center, small, warm, blue-white, cloud-
>covered worlds.
>
> Perhaps some day we will know them.
>
>Perhaps the origin and evolution of life is, given enough
>time, a cosmic inevitability.
>
>The fossil evidence could be consistent with the idea of a
>Great Designer; perhaps some species are destroyed when the
>Designer becomes dissatisfied with them, and new experiments
>are attempted on an improved design.
>
>
> We know from the fossil record that the origin of life
>happened soon after, perhaps around 4.0 billion years ago, in the
>ponds and oceans of the primitive Earth.
>
>Perhaps there are
>many other planets that today have abundant microbes but no
>big beasts and vegetables.
>
>Isaac Newton was perhaps
>the greatest scientific genius who ever lived.
>
> Perhaps it was
>a spaceship of some unimaginably advanced extraterrestrial
>
>And if there are swamps, why not cycads and dragonflies and
>perhaps even dinosaurs on Venus?
>
>Perhaps there was an engineering failure just at the moment of
>touchdown. Or perhaps there is something particularly danger-
>ous about the Martian surface.
>
>Perhaps there are large lifeforms on Mars, but not in our two
>landing sites. Perhaps there are smaller forms in every rock and
>sand grain.
>
>perhaps even many of the same
>basic molecules, such as proteins and nucleic acids—but put to-
>gether in unfamiliar ways. Perhaps organisms that float in dense
>planetary atmospheres will be very much like us in their atomic
>composition, except they might not have bones and therefore
>not need much calcium. Perhaps elsewhere some solvent other
>than water is used.
>
> Perhaps time itself
>has many potential dimensions, despite the fact that we are con-
>demned to experience only one of them.
>
>magic gravity machine—a device with which we could control
>the Earth’s gravity, perhaps by turning a dial.
>
>But perhaps more interesting is the question of higher dimen-
>sions. Could there be a fourth physical dimension?
>
>
>
>I'm not even halfway with these "perhaps"/ uncertainty or possibility
>quotes from this just one book Cosmos...
>
>
>There is nothing in Carls Sagan book Cosmos that is truly non-fiction.
>
>
>It's ALL science fintion!
>
>
>magic gravity machine?
>
>dats non-fiction, right?  give me a break!
>
>
>
>There is a higher  fourth physical dimension.'...
>
>
>That's the signpost up ahead—your next stop, the Twilight Zone!
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#884578 — Re: Carl Sagan...perhaps

FromPhysfitfreak <Physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Date2024-01-21 20:33 -0600
SubjectRe: Carl Sagan...perhaps
Message-ID<uokk59$osag$2@solani.org>
In reply to#884569
On 1/21/2024 3:20 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Boy, dat Cosmos PBS TV series had to be the most boring show on
> earth!!!


Were you alive then?

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#884079

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-12-24 10:50 -0800
Message-ID<658d95e5-a51e-45fc-ba57-02041c8b922en@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#883781
On Saturday, December 16, 2023 at 12:40:01 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> Carl Edward Sagan was an American astronomer and science communicator. 
> His best known scientific contribution is his research on the possibility of extraterrestrial life. 
> He assembled the first physical messages sent into space 
> which were universal messages that could potentially be understood by any extraterrestrial intelligence that might find them. 
> 
> 
> Astronomy is the study of everything in the universe beyond Earth's atmosphere. 
> 
> 
> That means a space nut. 
> 
> 
> 
> 'beyond Earth's atmosphere' means he knew he wasn't allowed to study...earth science. 
> 
> 
> There are no other samples to comare it with so why bother learning earth science???? 
> 
> There is no organic soil anywhere else in the universe... 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> You people are not allowed to study...earth science. 
> 
> 
> 
> any trees on Mars? or Venus?? ...anywhere else??? 
> 
> 
> 
> You people are not allowed to study...earth science. 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge the unchallengeable.

We would be ancient in comparison to a much older visiting civilization.
Doesn't every world get to their interstellar space travel?
And why not?

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#884252

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2024-01-03 12:43 -0800
Message-ID<f41c9721-1e81-4795-b561-f0f80084987fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#883781
My 148th published book

Plutonium Atom Totality Universe, 9th edition 2021, Atom Totality Series, book 1 Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author)

Last revision was 30Nov2021. And this is AP's 148th published science book.

Preface:
Physics book that explains what the universe is, and how it works. This is a continuation of the Atomic Theory by Democritus in Ancient Greek times. It adds one more fact to the Atomic Theory picture. That the Universe itself is one gigantic big atom. The picture is that of the Universe, in total, is one big atom that contains more atoms, inside itself. It completes the logic of science that Dr. Feynman wrote-- all things are made up of atoms -- and so, to complete that idea -- all things and the universe itself is an atom.

In this edition of year 2021, AP actually proves the Atom Totality theory, and therefore, a simultaneously _disproof_ of the Big Bang theory. The proof is simple, in that the Sun and stars shine not from fusion, but rather, instead, shine from the Faraday law going on inside each and every proton in the Sun or star, or, in the Universe. The muon is the true electron of atoms and is the bar magnet in Faraday's law while the proton is a 840MeV particle in the geometry shape of 8 ring coil torus that is the closed loop coil in Faraday's Law. NASA scientists have discovered the Sun is a yearly increase in radiation of 0.005% yearly, and is why 25% of all insects have perished in the last decade 2010-2020. Stars and Sun shine from Faraday law, not from fusion and that is how the Universe itself grows. So, we cannot logically have two different mechanisms for the creation of the Universe. We cannot have electricity magnetism of Faraday law and then some silly "explosion of Big Bang" to create and grow the universe.

Also, in the course of providing supporting evidence of the Atom Totality theory, my research had to revise and correct the entire Maxwell Equations, and revise and correct the theory, the quantum electrodynamics theory.

Cover Picture: Again I used 8 rings from plumbing hardware to represent the 8 rings of a proton torus, and visualize each ring as a dot cloud pattern instead of a continuous ring, and the holes in some of those rings helps facilitate that image. Notice the muon ring is inside the proton torus rings, and perpendicular, and situated at the equator, going around and around the proton torus at nearly the speed of light in the Faraday law; producing electricity. Atoms are designed to produce maximum electricity, given their masses.

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#1-2, 48th published book

Plutonium Atom Totality Universe, Atom Totality Series, book 2 Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author)


--------------------------
Table of Contents
--------------------------

1) A visual image of a Atom Totality

2) Simply multiply 9 times 105MeV and there you get the rest mass of proton and neutron.

3) The tau-electron 1777MeV is merely 105MeV multiply by 17 is 1785 with Sigma Error of 0.4%.

4) Particle in the 840MeV range so that we can say we discovered the proton particle isolated of its internal muon.

5) Found a 840MeV particle in experimental physics, but, is it the proton torus without its interior occupied by a muon?

6) The theory of 9s, as help in physics.

7) How we picture the interior of Atoms, and the Atom Totality.

8) The Principle of Scooting-Over, applied.

9) An ongoing commentary of the geometry of atoms, both interior and exterior.

10) Galaxies form Rings in Faraday Coil, and Faraday bar-magnet // Cosmic Proton, Cosmic Muon.

11) Is there a Cosmic Faraday Law going on?

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#1-3, 74th published book

HISTORY OF THE PROTON MASS and the 945 MeV //Atom Totality series, book 3 Kindle Edition 
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) 

Last revision was December 2023, and this is AP's 74th published book of science.

Preface: In 2016-2017, AP discovered that the real proton has a mass of 840 MeV, not 938. The real electron was actually the muon and the muon stays inside the proton that forms a proton torus of 840 windings and with the muon inside as bar magnet going round and round in a circle at nearly the speed of light doing the Faraday Law producing electricity of magnetic monopoles. So this book is all about why researchers of physics and engineers keep getting the number 938MeV when they should be getting the number 840 MeV + 105 MeV = 945 MeV.

Cover Picture is a proton torus of 8 rings, 840 windings with a muon of 1 ring, 105 windings, inside the proton torus, doing the Faraday Law and producing magnetic monopoles.



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#1-4, 105th published book 

Atom Geometry is Torus Geometry // Atom Totality series, book 4 Kindle Edition 
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) 

Since all atoms are doing the Faraday Law inside them, of their thrusting muon into a proton coil in the shape of a geometry torus, then the torus is the geometry of each and every atom. But then we must explain the neutrons since the muon and proton are doing Faraday's Law, then the neutron needs to be explained in terms of this proton torus with muon inside, all three shaped as rings. The muon is a single ring and each proton is 8 rings. The neutron is shaped like a plate and is solid not hollow. The explanation of a neutron is that of a capacitor storing what the proton-muon rings produce in electricity. Where would the neutron parallel plates be located? I argue in this text that the neutron plates when fully grown from 1 eV until 945MeV are like two parallel plate capacitors where each neutron is part of one plate, like two pieces of bread with the proton-muon torus being a hamburger patty. 

Cover Picture: I assembled two atoms in this picture where the proton torus with a band of muons inside traveling around and around the proton torus producing electricity. And the pie-plates represent neutrons as parallel-plate capacitors. 


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#1-5, My 112th published book of science.

New Perspective on Psi^2 in the Schrodinger Equation in a Atom Totality Universe// Atom Totality series, book 5 

by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) (Amazon's Kindle)

I first heard of the Schrodinger equation in college chemistry class. We never actually did any problem solving with the equation, and we were only told about it. Then taking physics my next year in college and after I bought the Feynman Lectures on Physics, just for fun for side reading, three volume set did I learn what this Schrodinger equation and the Psi^2 wavefunction was about. I am not going to teach the mathematics of the Schrodinger equation and the math calculations of the Psi or Psi^2 in this book, but leave that up to the reader or student to do that from Feynman's Lectures on Physics. The purpose of this book is to give a new and different interpretation of what Psi^2 is, what Psi^2 means. Correct interpretation of physics experiments and observations turns out to be one of the most difficult tasks in all of physics. 

Cover Picture: a photograph taken of me in 1993, after the discovery of Plutonium Atom Totality, and I was 43 years old then, on a wintery hill of New Hampshire. It is nice that Feynman wrote a physics textbook series, for I am very much benefitting from his wisdom. If he had not done that, getting organized in physics by writing textbooks, I would not be writing this book. And I would not have discovered the true meaning of the Fine Structure Constant, for it was Feynman who showed us that FSC is really 0.0854, not that of 0.0072. All because 0.0854 is Psi, and Psi^2 is 0.0072. 
 

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#1-6, 135th published book

QED in Atom Totality theory where proton is a 8 ring torus and electron = muon inside proton doing Faraday Law// Atom Totality series, book 6 Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) 
 
Since the real true electron of atoms is the muon and is a one ring bar magnet thrusting through the 8 ring torus of a proton, we need a whole entire new model of the hydrogen atom. Because the Bohr model with the 0.5MeV particle jumping orbitals as the explanation of Spectral Lines is all wrong. In this vacuum of explaining spectral line physics, comes the AP Model which simply states that the hydrogen atom creates Spectral lines because at any one instant of time 4 of the 8 proton rings is "in view" and the electricity coming from those 4 view rings creates spectral line physics.

Cover Picture: Is a imitation of the 8 ring proton torus, with my fingers holding on the proton ring that has the muon ring perpendicular and in the equatorial plane of the proton rings, thrusting through. This muon ring is the same size as the 8 proton rings making 9 x 105MeV = 945MeV of energy. The muon ring has to be perpendicular and lie on the equator of the proton torus. Surrounding the proton-torus would be neutrons as skin or coating cover and act as capacitors in storing the electricity produced by the proton+muon.


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#1-7, 138th published book
The true NUCLEUS of Atoms are inner toruses moving around in circles of a larger outer torus// Rutherford, Geiger, Marsden Experiment revisited // Atom Totality Series, book 7 Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author)

The geometry of Atoms of the Table of Chemical Elements is torus geometry. We know this to be true for the torus geometry forms the maximum electricity production when using the Faraday Law. We see this in Old Physics with their tokamak toruses attempting to make fusion, by accelerating particles of the highest possible acceleration for the torus is that geometry. But the torus is the geometry not only of maximum acceleration but of maximum electrical generation by having a speeding bar magnet go around and around inside a torus== the Faraday law, where the torus rings are the copper closed wire loop. The protons of atoms are 8 loops of rings in a torus geometry, and the electron of atoms is the muon as bar magnet, almost the same size as the proton loops but small enough to fit inside proton loops. It is torus geometry that we investigate the geometry of all atoms.


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#1-8, 1st published book

Atom Totality Universe, 8th edition, 2017// A history log book: Atom Totality Series book 8 Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author)


Last revision 7Apr2021. This was AP's first published science book.

Advisory: This is a difficult book to read and is AP's research log book of the Atom Totality in 2016-2017. I want to keep it for its history value. AP advises all readers wanting to know the Plutonium Atom Totality theory to go to the 9th edition that is the latest up to date account of this theory. The reason AP wants to keep the 8th edition is because of Historical Value, for in this book, while writing it, caused the discovery of the real electron is the muon of atoms. The real proton of atoms is 840MeV and not the 938MeV that most books claim. The particle discovered by JJ Thomson in 1897 thinking he discovered the electron of atoms was actually the Dirac magnetic monopole at 0.5MeV. This discovery changes every, every science that uses atoms and electricity and magnetism, in other words, every science.

Foreward: 
I wrote the 8th edition of Atom Totality and near the end of writing it in 2017, I had my second greatest physics discovery. I learned the real electron of atoms was the muon at 105MeV and not the tiny 0.5MeV particle that J.J.Thomson found in 1897. So I desperately tried to include that discovery in my 8th edition and it is quite plain to see for I tried to write paragraphs after each chapter saying as much. I knew in 2017, that it was a great discovery, changing all the hard sciences, and reframing and restructuring all the hard sciences.
Length: 632 pages


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#1-9, 163rd published book
Stellar System Evolution for Advanced Intelligent Life //Atom Totality science Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author) Format: Kindle Edition


Preface: This book explores the question of why the Sun has a planet with abundant life that evolved over 3.7 billion years ago into the advanced intelligent life of humans, yet the Sun has gone Red Giant initiation phase that threatens to destroy all life on Earth in the next few thousand years. The question of why even bother having advanced intelligent life if the home star quickly destroys that life and the planet it resides upon? Why bother with advanced intelligent life if it is put under such enormous stress and strain and energy to move to a distant satellite of Europa and Ganymede. Surely the Cosmic design must tell us why this is our fate.
Cover Picture: is my iphone photograph of Europa.

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#1-10, 161st published book

PHYSICSOPEDIA -- List of 137 fakes and mistakes of Old Physics// Student teaches professor Kindle Edition
by Archimedes Plutonium (Author)

Last revision was 24Apr2022. This is AP's 161st published book of science.

Preface:
A Physicsopedia is a book of the overall assessment and evaluation of the state of the art of Physics. It is like a report card. It is a total view of the science and a judgement of the science, both of the past, present and the direction forward into the future. Its greatest use is to alert readers and people in science of what is wrong with their subject, and as a ancillary use, to alert students what to avoid in college as a waste of time.

It is not in alphabetical order but mostly, rather, has a ordering of what is most important at the start and only at the very very end. For there is no index.

Physics is the most important hard science for every other science is a specialized part of physics. And Old Physics has three key huge mistakes that this book addresses. The true theory of the Universe is the Atom Totality, not the Big Bang which is a ridiculous theory. The true electron of atoms is not the particle of 0.5MeV which turns out to be Dirac's magnetic monopole, while the true real electron of atoms is the muon of 105MeV which is stuck inside a proton torus of 8 rings of 840MeV. This causes another huge mistake, for a mistake in physics usually has a cascade effect of more and more mistakes. When we take the true electron of atoms is the muon, means the Sun and stars shine not from fusion, but from that muon thrusting through the proton torus in a Faraday law of electricity and magnetism producing electrical energy. So our Sun shines from the Faraday law, not fusion. And this implies the Sun has gone into Red Giant phase with a solar radiation increase of 0.005% yearly increase. That implies all life on Earth is in danger of going extinct as the Sun becomes more and more Red Giant, and unless humanity moves out to Europa, humanity goes extinct.


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Read my recent posts in peace and quiet. 
https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe  
Archimedes Plutonium

More people reading and viewing AP's newsgroup than viewing sci.math, sci.physics. So AP has decided to put all NEW WORK, to his newsgroup. And there is little wonder because in AP's newsgroups, there is only solid pure science going on, not a ocean of spam; a river of drag-net spam, or a gang of hate spewing misfits blighting the skies. 

Scooting over technique for Caltech's Jarrett Cosmic Ring in 3rd layer (the Cosmic Proton or Cosmic Muon??) Plutonium Atom Totality Universe, 9th edition 2021, Atom Totality Series, book 1 Kindle Edition by Archimedes Plutonium (Author)

Read my recent posts in peace and quiet. If you, the reader, is wondering why AP posts this to a thread which is off topic in sci.math or sci.physics, is because some stalkers track AP, such as kibo, dan, jan who have been paid to stalk for 3 decades and when they see AP trying to post to his own thread that is on-topic they throw a impossible reCAPTcha suppression and repression at me that only wastes my time. From what AP can make out-- Google is not the only one using reCAPTcha, apparently the US govt rents out reCAPTcha. So if you see a AP post in a thread off topic, is because kooks of reCAPTcha are making it impossible for AP to post to the on-topic thread.

Read all of AP's post in peace and quiet in his newsgroup-- what sci.physics and sci.math should look like when govt spammers are not allowed in a newsgroup to wreck the newsgroup. Govt spammers have their agenda of drag net spam, and then their agenda of spy message codes, such as the "i sick, i cry" baloney, which only ends up ruining the newsgroups and why Google decided to close shop having fought govt bureaucrat mind sets for 30 years, and time to close shop.

AP kindly asks Google to let AP run all three, sci.math, sci.physics, PAU as he runs PAU, now--- all pure science, no spam and no govt b.s.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!forum/plutonium-atom-universe         
Archimedes Plutonium

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