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Re: Can science prove time is not real?

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  Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-06 11:50 -0800
    Re: Can science prove time is not real? Archimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com> - 2023-03-06 13:44 -0800
      Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-07 01:09 -0800
    Re: Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-06 17:36 -0800
    Re: Can science prove time is not real? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-03-07 14:02 +1100
      Re: Can science prove time is not real? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-03-06 19:28 -0800
      Re: Can science prove time is not real? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-03-06 22:27 -0600
      Re: Can science prove time is not real? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-03-06 20:16 -0800
        Re: Can science prove time is not real? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-03-07 15:48 +1100
      Re: Can science prove time is not real? nospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder) - 2023-03-07 11:14 +0100
        Re: Can science prove time is not real? Timothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com> - 2023-03-07 07:53 -0800
          Re: Can science prove time is not real? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-03-07 11:47 -0600
            Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-07 11:37 -0800
              Re: Can science prove time is not real? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-03-07 20:18 -0600
                Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-09 00:04 +0000
                  Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-08 22:23 -0800
                    Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-09 15:31 +0000
                    Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-09 11:51 -0800
                      Re: Can science prove time is not real? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-03-09 15:33 -0800
                  Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-09 23:11 +0000
                    Re: Can science prove time is not real? Bill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co> - 2023-03-10 00:41 +0000
    Re: Can science prove time is not real? Ezimene nimi Teine nimi <yyyyyeeeee00000@writeme.com> - 2023-03-07 11:37 -0800

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#870730 — Re: Can science prove time is not real?

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-03-06 11:50 -0800
SubjectRe: Can science prove time is not real?
Message-ID<64064422.3FDB@ix.netcom.com>
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> why are you using a clock?
> 
> Mitchell Raemsch


Okay, help me with my Time problem...

If you got one twin on earth..
and his watch sez 12:00pm...
and the other twin is on
the Moon...and his watch
sez 1200:pm

and he walks to
the otherside
of the moom..
What time does his watch sez?

I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
what time zone he is on the Moon?

I mean, is it still the same time
whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???

Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#870733

FromArchimedes Plutonium <plutonium.archimedes@gmail.com>
Date2023-03-06 13:44 -0800
Message-ID<b13605d0-d216-46ec-a241-3947d2440f80n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#870730
Horribly telling that this shithead government spammer can make new threads to sci.physics while the people actually doing physics in sci.physics cannot.

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#870751

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-03-07 01:09 -0800
Message-ID<6406FF45.6EE9@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#870733
Archimedes Plutonium wrote:
> 
> Horribly telling that this shithead government spammer can make new threads to sci.physics while the people actually doing physics in sci.physics cannot.

Learn grasshopper...

First, by now yous notice https://www.aioe.org/ newsserver is gone,
chrashed for some time already?

That only leaves with one left 
 a free Usenet newsserver...

http://www.eternal-september.org/
http://www.eternal-september.org/index.php?showpage=techinfo

news.eternal-september.org





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#870741

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-03-06 17:36 -0800
Message-ID<0cee966b-b471-4f41-a764-19939791aaf4n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#870730
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 11:51:06 AM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > 
> > why are you using a clock? 
> > 
> > Mitchell Raemsch 
> 
> 
> Okay, help me with my Time problem... 
> 
> If you got one twin on earth.. 
> and his watch sez 12:00pm... 
> and the other twin is on 
> the Moon...and his watch 
> sez 1200:pm 
> 
> and he walks to 
> the otherside 
> of the moom.. 
> What time does his watch sez? 
> 
> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter 
> what time zone he is on the Moon? 
> 
> I mean, is it still the same time 
> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? 
> 
> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? 

There is always a common instant across the spatial universe
but its rate can be different. The age of everything has
been since the BB. The most distant objects had to get to
their distances over time after the BB.

Mitchell Raemsch


> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable, 
> to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, 
> and challenge 
> the unchallengeable.

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#870742

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2023-03-07 14:02 +1100
Message-ID<k6nnqfFen5eU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#870730
On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>
>> why are you using a clock?
>>
>> Mitchell Raemsch
> 
> 
> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
> 
> If you got one twin on earth..
> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
> and the other twin is on
> the Moon...and his watch
> sez 1200:pm
> 
> and he walks to
> the otherside
> of the moom..
> What time does his watch sez?
> 
> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
> what time zone he is on the Moon?
> 
> I mean, is it still the same time
> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
> 
> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock 
shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle 
regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of 
some parts of China).

Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense 
will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set 
their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity 
owns the base.

Sylvia.

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#870743

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-03-06 19:28 -0800
Message-ID<585fa1b1-837c-4a82-b9a7-36c64ed6a4d6n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#870742
On Monday, March 6, 2023 at 7:02:45 PM UTC-8, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> >> 
> >> why are you using a clock? 
> >> 
> >> Mitchell Raemsch 
> > 
> > 
> > Okay, help me with my Time problem... 
> > 
> > If you got one twin on earth.. 
> > and his watch sez 12:00pm... 
> > and the other twin is on 
> > the Moon...and his watch 
> > sez 1200:pm 
> > 
> > and he walks to 
> > the otherside 
> > of the moom.. 
> > What time does his watch sez? 
> > 
> > I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter 
> > what time zone he is on the Moon? 
> > 
> > I mean, is it still the same time 
> > whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? 
> > 
> > Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock 
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle 
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of 
> some parts of China). 
> 
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense 
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set 
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity 
> owns the base. 
> 
> Sylvia.

Are you  on the Moon sylvia?
or did it just Moon you?

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#870744

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-03-06 22:27 -0600
Message-ID<k6nsosFh524U1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#870742
On 3/6/2023 9:02 PM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>
>>
>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>
>> If you got one twin on earth..
>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>> and the other twin is on
>> the Moon...and his watch
>> sez 1200:pm
>>
>> and he walks to
>> the otherside
>> of the moom..
>> What time does his watch sez?
>>
>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>
>> I mean, is it still the same time
>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>
>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
> 
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock 
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle 
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of 
> some parts of China).
> 
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense 
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set 
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity 
> owns the base.
> 
> Sylvia.

"Starmaker" does not comprehend the difference of elapsed time between
events and the human usage of locally assigned time. Most of the
questions he raises in these newsgroups are based on common word
applications without any ability to appreciate the essential nuances
implicit in specific usages. It gets even worse because he apparently
cannot fathom the specifics associated with words i.e. "two," "to," and
"too." One can easily see his consistent use of the wrong version of
words in his postings. Initially I thought he was just trying to be
funny but eventually the true nature of his handicap in these regards
became apparent.

As a result I've stopped reading his input because he clearly intends to
avoid achieving any progress while clearly demonstrating his intention
to remain the clown in the back of a classroom while also clearly often
demonstrating an inebriated state when posting.

Where it comes to wasting my time I have much better ways to achieve
that.

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#870745

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2023-03-06 20:16 -0800
Message-ID<pdqidj-vtjc.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#870742
In sci.physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>
>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>
>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>> 
>> 
>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>> 
>> If you got one twin on earth..
>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>> and the other twin is on
>> the Moon...and his watch
>> sez 1200:pm
>> 
>> and he walks to
>> the otherside
>> of the moom..
>> What time does his watch sez?
>> 
>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>> 
>> I mean, is it still the same time
>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>> 
>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
> 
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock 
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle 
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of 
> some parts of China).
> 
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense 
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set 
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity 
> owns the base.
> 
> Sylvia.
> 

That is what has been done to date, but see this:

https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/

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#870746

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2023-03-07 15:48 +1100
Message-ID<k6nu17Fen5eU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#870745
On 07-Mar-23 3:16 pm, Jim Pennino wrote:
> In sci.physics Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:
>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>>
>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>
>>>
>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>>
>>> If you got one twin on earth..
>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>>> and the other twin is on
>>> the Moon...and his watch
>>> sez 1200:pm
>>>
>>> and he walks to
>>> the otherside
>>> of the moom..
>>> What time does his watch sez?
>>>
>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>>
>>> I mean, is it still the same time
>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>>
>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
>> some parts of China).
>>
>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity
>> owns the base.
>>
>> Sylvia.
>>
> 
> That is what has been done to date, but see this:
> 
> https://scitechdaily.com/what-time-is-it-on-the-moon-advancing-a-new-lunar-timezone/
> 
> 

A common reference time is clearly useful, but at this point it probably 
makes more sense to use Earth based atomic time. But even then, there's 
no reason for wall clocks on the Moon to track that exactly. They'll 
probably still be based on the local time of the terrestrial owner.

Sylvia.

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#870752

Fromnospam@de-ster.demon.nl (J. J. Lodder)
Date2023-03-07 11:14 +0100
Message-ID<1q77w7w.1gueqyn1crgmm5N%nospam@de-ster.demon.nl>
In reply to#870742
Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>
> >> why are you using a clock?
> >>
> >> Mitchell Raemsch
> > 
> > 
> > Okay, help me with my Time problem...
> > 
> > If you got one twin on earth..
> > and his watch sez 12:00pm...
> > and the other twin is on
> > the Moon...and his watch
> > sez 1200:pm
> > 
> > and he walks to
> > the otherside
> > of the moom..
> > What time does his watch sez?
> > 
> > I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
> > what time zone he is on the Moon?
> > 
> > I mean, is it still the same time
> > whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
> > 
> > Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
> some parts of China).
> 
> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns
> the base.

As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
Nothing deep there, just practicalities,

Jan

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#870764

FromTimothy Golden <timbandtech@gmail.com>
Date2023-03-07 07:53 -0800
Message-ID<8ebd9cc0-ae10-4fe3-a9de-afaf219e52ecn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#870752
On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote: 
> 
> > On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote: 
> > > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote: 
> > >> 
> > >> why are you using a clock? 
> > >> 
> > >> Mitchell Raemsch 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Okay, help me with my Time problem... 
> > > 
> > > If you got one twin on earth.. 
> > > and his watch sez 12:00pm... 
> > > and the other twin is on 
> > > the Moon...and his watch 
> > > sez 1200:pm 
> > > 
> > > and he walks to 
> > > the otherside 
> > > of the moom.. 
> > > What time does his watch sez? 
> > > 
> > > I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter 
> > > what time zone he is on the Moon? 
> > > 
> > > I mean, is it still the same time 
> > > whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon??? 
> > > 
> > > Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon???? 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock 
> > shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle 
> > regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of 
> > some parts of China). 
> > 
> > Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense 
> > will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set 
> > their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns 
> > the base.
> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica. 
> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter. 
> Nothing deep there, just practicalities, 
> 
> Jan

Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day.
Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too. 
Probably better just to use unix time.

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#870765

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-03-07 11:47 -0600
Message-ID<k6pblqFo5prU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#870764
On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote:
> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
>>
>>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>>>
>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>>>
>>>> If you got one twin on earth..
>>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>>>> and the other twin is on
>>>> the Moon...and his watch
>>>> sez 1200:pm
>>>>
>>>> and he walks to
>>>> the otherside
>>>> of the moom..
>>>> What time does his watch sez?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>>>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>>>
>>>> I mean, is it still the same time
>>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>>>
>>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
>>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
>>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
>>> some parts of China).
>>>
>>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
>>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
>>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns
>>> the base.
>> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
>> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
>> Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
>>
>> Jan
> 
> Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day.
> Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too.
> Probably better just to use unix time.

You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup
reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it
clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour
artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the
human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in
from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens.

Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a
fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of
the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight
and similarly long nights.

"Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools 
errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future.

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#870770

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-03-07 11:37 -0800
Message-ID<6407926D.604@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#870765
whodat wrote:
> 
> On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote:
> > On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
> >> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
> >>
> >>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> >>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> why are you using a clock?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
> >>>>
> >>>> If you got one twin on earth..
> >>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
> >>>> and the other twin is on
> >>>> the Moon...and his watch
> >>>> sez 1200:pm
> >>>>
> >>>> and he walks to
> >>>> the otherside
> >>>> of the moom..
> >>>> What time does his watch sez?
> >>>>
> >>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
> >>>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
> >>>>
> >>>> I mean, is it still the same time
> >>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
> >>>>
> >>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>
> >>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
> >>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
> >>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
> >>> some parts of China).
> >>>
> >>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
> >>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
> >>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns
> >>> the base.
> >> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
> >> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
> >> Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
> >>
> >> Jan
> >
> > Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day.
> > Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too.
> > Probably better just to use unix time.
> 
> You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup
> reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it
> clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour
> artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the
> human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in
> from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens.
> 
> Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a
> fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of
> the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight
> and similarly long nights.
> 
> "Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools
> errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future.


So your M.O. is..."Do as I say, not as I do.' ...hypocrite. tsk, tsk. shame on you. You're evil. a bad bad boy. Despicable!  






-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#870816

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-03-07 20:18 -0600
Message-ID<k6q9kfFsmnuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#870770
On 3/7/2023 1:37 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 3/7/2023 9:53 AM, Timothy Golden wrote:
>>> On Tuesday, March 7, 2023 at 5:14:38 AM UTC-5, J. J. Lodder wrote:
>>>> Sylvia Else <syl...@email.invalid> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 07-Mar-23 6:50 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> why are you using a clock?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mitchell Raemsch
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Okay, help me with my Time problem...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If you got one twin on earth..
>>>>>> and his watch sez 12:00pm...
>>>>>> and the other twin is on
>>>>>> the Moon...and his watch
>>>>>> sez 1200:pm
>>>>>>
>>>>>> and he walks to
>>>>>> the otherside
>>>>>> of the moom..
>>>>>> What time does his watch sez?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean, is it 12:00pm no matter
>>>>>> what time zone he is on the Moon?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I mean, is it still the same time
>>>>>> whether it is daytime or nighttime on the moon???
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Is it 12:00pm everywhere on the Moon????
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Time zones are a human invention intended to allow what a local clock
>>>>> shows to correspond to approximately the same point in the daily cycle
>>>>> regardless of where one is on Earth (very approximately, in the case of
>>>>> some parts of China).
>>>>>
>>>>> Since lunar days are a month long, time zones in the terrestrial sense
>>>>> will never be used. Moon bases, if they ever exist, will probably set
>>>>> their clocks according the local time of whatever terrestrial entity owns
>>>>> the base.
>>>> As is already done in permanent stations in Antarctica.
>>>> Some stations shift though, with a different time for summer and winter.
>>>> Nothing deep there, just practicalities,
>>>>
>>>> Jan
>>>
>>> Isn't moon time about 28 Earth days per moon day? That's 672 Earth hours per moon day.
>>> Got to mod the dial on your Earth watch a bit. Might need an extra hand too.
>>> Probably better just to use unix time.
>>
>> You know, this the one instance where scifi could set the newsgroup
>> reader's mind at ease. Over the years the various TV series have made it
>> clear that wherever the "mission" was in space an arbitrary 24 hour
>> artificial day could be successfully established since that is what the
>> human being evolved in and an environment we successfully survived in
>> from a protohuman state right through to and including homo sapiens.
>>
>> Attempting to relegate some sort of a day to local conditions is a
>> fools errand. Consider the success of the human being to live north of
>> the arctic circle where extremely long periods are of effective daylight
>> and similarly long nights.
>>
>> "Starmaker" sent those willing to pay attention to him on this fools
>> errand. Shame on those who fell for it. Please ignore him in the future.
> 
> 
> So your M.O. is..."Do as I say, not as I do.' ...hypocrite. tsk, tsk. shame on you. You're evil. a bad bad boy. Despicable!

ibid.

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#870855

FromBill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co>
Date2023-03-09 00:04 +0000
Message-ID<tub7pl$14vkd$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#870816
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
 
> What can count 9 billion times a second?
> It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead...

are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance??

amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis
immediately.

 Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe
 *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed
https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/
Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the US-made
F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like to be “up
to NATO standards” anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots is important
and it is quite necessary,” he said.

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#870867

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-03-08 22:23 -0800
Message-ID<64097B7D.31DF@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#870855
Bill Monti Pavoni wrote:
> 
> mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> 
> > What can count 9 billion times a second?
> > It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead...
> 
> are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance??
> 
> amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis
> immediately.
> 
>  Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe
>  *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed
> https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/
> Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the US-made
> F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like to be “up
> to NATO standards” anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots is important
> and it is quite necessary,” he said.

Come on already, every kid in USA can fly F-16 fighter jets Microsoft
Flight Simulator...the same
that is being used to train Ukraine soliders on flight simulators.
F-16 fighter jets  Flight Simulators is the closest a Ukraine guy will
ever get to a F-16 fighter jets.

The question is..are the Ukrainians using an Xbox or Windows PC? 


The only good commie is A DEAD COMMIE!!!!

I love the smell of dead commies in the morning...it smells
like...victory.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#870883

FromBill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co>
Date2023-03-09 15:31 +0000
Message-ID<tucu4u$1gjqa$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#870867
The Starmaker wrote:
>> are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance??
>> amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis
>> immediately.
>>  Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for
>>  Europe *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed
>> https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/

> The only good commie is A DEAD COMMIE!!!!
> I love the smell of dead commies in the morning...it smells
> like...victory.

the capitalist nazis eugenicists bil gaytes, soros, claus schwab anal, 
trumpf, bidon etc, just killed already in millions with vaccines, 
lockdown, restrictions, toxic water toxic food, etc etc and etc, your 
kids, your family, your stupid ass, etc, you stinking wannabe capitalist. 

you don't even know what communism and capitalism is, much less tensors, 
relativity and other things. The putrid vagina of your momma is on your 
face, in the morning, and smells like putrid fish.

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#870898

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-03-09 11:51 -0800
Message-ID<640A38BA.10DC@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#870867
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Bill Monti Pavoni wrote:
> >
> > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> >
> > > What can count 9 billion times a second?
> > > It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead...
> >
> > are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance??
> >
> > amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis
> > immediately.
> >
> >  Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe
> >  *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed
> > https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/
> > Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the US-made
> > F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like to be “up
> > to NATO standards” anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots is important
> > and it is quite necessary,” he said.
> 
> Come on already, every kid in USA can fly F-16 fighter jets Microsoft
> Flight Simulator...the same
> that is being used to train Ukraine soliders on flight simulators.
> F-16 fighter jets  Flight Simulators is the closest a Ukraine guy will
> ever get to a F-16 fighter jets.
> 
> The question is..are the Ukrainians using an Xbox or Windows PC?
> 
> The only good commie is A DEAD COMMIE!!!!
> 
> I love the smell of dead commies in the morning...it smells
> like...victory.


Let me give you some truths..

Russia has 10,200 tanks.

 The United Kingdom has promised 12 tanks for Ukraine.



Any kid can use a sticky bomb (a sock with explosives and chewing gum)
can knock off and disable 12 tanks in 12 minutes.


Why would anyone want to make Putin laugh? You gonna kill him wit deese jokes!!


He's gonna die laughing.


Everybody in the world wants the same thing from Ukraine...they want pretty Ukrainian women.


Which country is getting the most delivery? China?? Chinks like White chicks from Ukraine.


Where's mine?


I gotta pretend i'm a russian soldier and get one for free!


Okay Ukraine, give me 20 pretty girls from Ukraine and I'll give you one tank.

I personally will delivery the tank...


How will I deliver it??? I'll go to Poland and steal one of their tanks and drive it to anywhere in Ukraine.


Just have those bitches ready!!!!

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#870915

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-03-09 15:33 -0800
Message-ID<640A6CD4.2B68@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#870898
I promise to send a thousand zipguns to Ukraine....but I ran out of
rubber bands.

also is hard to find cars with the antennas nowadays..

  Russia has 10,200 tanks. The United Kingdom has promised 12 tanks for
Ukraine.

How much is the usa sending? Is it 30 or 31?


I mean promise to send...



 Any 3 year old kid can use a sticky bomb (a sock with explosives and
chewing gum)
to knock off and disable 31 tanks in 31 minutes.







The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Bill Monti Pavoni wrote:
> > >
> > > mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:
> > >
> > > > What can count 9 billion times a second?
> > > > It is known that the atomic clock drifts instead...
> > >
> > > are you *_the_first_lady_* of the united states, by chance??
> > >
> > > amazing, what happens when you are not hanging these terrorist nazis
> > > immediately.
> > >
> > >  Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe
> > >  *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed
> > > https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/
> > > Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the US-made
> > > F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like to be “up
> > > to NATO standards” anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots is important
> > > and it is quite necessary,” he said.
> >
> > Come on already, every kid in USA can fly F-16 fighter jets Microsoft
> > Flight Simulator...the same
> > that is being used to train Ukraine soliders on flight simulators.
> > F-16 fighter jets  Flight Simulators is the closest a Ukraine guy will
> > ever get to a F-16 fighter jets.
> >
> > The question is..are the Ukrainians using an Xbox or Windows PC?
> >
> > The only good commie is A DEAD COMMIE!!!!
> >
> > I love the smell of dead commies in the morning...it smells
> > like...victory.
> 
> Let me give you some truths..
> 
> Russia has 10,200 tanks.
> 
>  The United Kingdom has promised 12 tanks for Ukraine.
> 
> Any kid can use a sticky bomb (a sock with explosives and chewing gum)
> can knock off and disable 12 tanks in 12 minutes.
> 
> Why would anyone want to make Putin laugh? You gonna kill him wit deese jokes!!
> 
> He's gonna die laughing.
> 
> Everybody in the world wants the same thing from Ukraine...they want pretty Ukrainian women.
> 
> Which country is getting the most delivery? China?? Chinks like White chicks from Ukraine.
> 
> Where's mine?
> 
> I gotta pretend i'm a russian soldier and get one for free!
> 
> Okay Ukraine, give me 20 pretty girls from Ukraine and I'll give you one tank.
> 
> I personally will delivery the tank...
> 
> How will I deliver it??? I'll go to Poland and steal one of their tanks and drive it to anywhere in Ukraine.
> 
> Just have those bitches ready!!!!
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#870912

FromBill Monti Pavoni <iail@apmnlnoi.co>
Date2023-03-09 23:11 +0000
Message-ID<tudp2d$1la36$1@dont-email.me>
In reply to#870855
mitchr...@gmail.com wrote:

>> Polish president claims Nord Stream blasts were ‘beneficial’ for Europe
>> *_Andrzej_Duda_* has claimed
>> https://%72%74.com/news/572660-poland-nord-stream-sabotage-beneficial/
>> Duda also called for Ukrainian pilots to be trained to operate the
>> US-made F-16 fighter jets, arguing that Kiev’s Armed Forces would like
>> to be “up to NATO standards” anyway. “The training of Ukrainian pilots
>> is important and it is quite necessary,” he said.
> 
> So what counts 9 billion times a second? how would we see? how many
> atoms are necessary? The hyper fine transition isn't real.
> Quantum leaps are. But we can't count them 9 billion times.

that's about 100 ps resolution, not that bad. Use a TDC, time to decimal 
converter.

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