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What is the speed of light????

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First post2023-01-29 11:57 -0800
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  What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-29 11:57 -0800
    Re: What is the speed of light???? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-01-29 13:08 -0800
      Re: What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-29 14:22 -0800
        Re: What is the speed of light???? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-01-29 15:05 -0800
          Re: What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-29 16:23 -0800
            Re: What is the speed of light???? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-01-29 20:30 -0800
          Re: What is the speed of light???? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-29 18:42 -0600
        Re: What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-29 16:20 -0800
    Re: What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-31 09:56 -0800
      Re: What is the speed of light???? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-31 12:53 -0600
        Re: What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-01-31 16:58 -0800
          Re: What is the speed of light???? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-01-31 18:00 -0800
            Re: What is the speed of light???? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-31 20:21 -0600
          Pathetic Starmaker *was Re: What is the speed of light????) whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-01-31 20:20 -0600
        Re: What is the speed of light???? The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2023-02-01 20:39 -0800
          Re: What is the speed of light???? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-02-02 00:16 -0600
    Re: What is the speed of light???? Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2023-04-05 15:02 +1000
      Re: What is the speed of light???? whodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com> - 2023-04-05 15:30 -0500
        Re: What is the speed of light???? "mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> - 2023-04-10 11:05 -0700
          Re: What is the speed of light???? Jim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net> - 2023-04-10 11:18 -0700
    Re: What is the speed of light???? Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2023-04-05 03:21 -0700
    Re: What is the speed of light???? V <vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv11111@mail.ee> - 2023-04-05 06:37 -0700
      Re: What is the speed of light???? Alan Folmsbee <omnilobe@gmail.com> - 2023-04-05 07:03 -0700

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#868911 — What is the speed of light????

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-29 11:57 -0800
SubjectWhat is the speed of light????
Message-ID<63D6CFA3.3C66@ix.netcom.com>
I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..

But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...


What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?

That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?

Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????


What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?




Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)


 vac·u·um
/'vak?yo?om/
noun

    a space entirely devoid of matter.
    synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum


What is the speed of light, anyway?





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#868916

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2023-01-29 13:08 -0800
Message-ID<3s3jaj-u72c.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#868911
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> 
> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> 
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> 
> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> 
> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> 
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> 

Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:

The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
lack of knowledge.

It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
would say "Google it, idiot".

<snip remaining nonsense>

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#868920

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-29 14:22 -0800
Message-ID<63D6F1AC.350C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#868916
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> > worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> >
> > But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> >
> >
> > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> >
> > That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> >
> > Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> >
> >
> > What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> >
> 
> Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
> 
> The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
> questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
> the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
> widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
> The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
> publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
> The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
> experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
> literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
> information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
> lack of knowledge.
> 
> It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
> would say "Google it, idiot".
> 
> <snip remaining nonsense>

Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...


What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???


I'll repeat the question but add...

What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
universe
is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
vacuum????


comprendere? capice? verstehe? 


What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?



comprendere? capice? verstehe? guinea? wop? 



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#868923

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2023-01-29 15:05 -0800
Message-ID<jnajaj-10cc.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#868920
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>> > worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>> >
>> > But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>> >
>> >
>> > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>> > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>> >
>> > That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>> >
>> > Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>> >
>> >
>> > What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>> >
>> 
>> Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
>> 
>> The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
>> questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
>> the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
>> widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
>> The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
>> publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
>> The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
>> experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
>> literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
>> information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
>> lack of knowledge.
>> 
>> It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
>> would say "Google it, idiot".
>> 
>> <snip remaining nonsense>
> 
> Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
> 
> 
> What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
> 
> 
> I'll repeat the question but add...
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
> universe
> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
> vacuum????

Google it, idiot.

What is the speed of light in air?

About 1,060,000,000 results...

<snip idiot babble>

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#868927

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-29 16:23 -0800
Message-ID<63D70E18.786C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#868923
Jim Pennino wrote:
> 
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > Jim Pennino wrote:
> >>
> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >> > I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> >> > worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> >> >
> >> > But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> >> > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> >> >
> >> > That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> >> >
> >> > Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> >> >
> >>
> >> Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
> >>
> >> The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
> >> questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
> >> the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
> >> widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
> >> The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
> >> publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
> >> The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
> >> experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
> >> literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
> >> information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
> >> lack of knowledge.
> >>
> >> It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
> >> would say "Google it, idiot".
> >>
> >> <snip remaining nonsense>
> >
> > Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
> >
> >
> > What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
> >
> >
> > I'll repeat the question but add...
> >
> > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
> > universe
> > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
> > vacuum????
> 
> Google it, idiot.
> 
> What is the speed of light in air?
> 
> About 1,060,000,000 results...
> 
> <snip idiot babble>


I understand, you simply don't know.


You're too embarassed to post a number...



I didn't ask 'What is the speed of light at McDonald's resturant.'





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Jim Pennino wrote:
> >
> > In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> > > worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> > >
> > > But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> > > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> > >
> > > That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> > >
> > > Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> > >
> >
> > Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
> >
> > The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
> > questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
> > the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
> > widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
> > The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
> > publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
> > The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
> > experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
> > literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
> > information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
> > lack of knowledge.
> >
> > It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
> > would say "Google it, idiot".
> >
> > <snip remaining nonsense>
> 
> Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
> 
> What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
> 
> I'll repeat the question but add...
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
> universe
> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
> vacuum????
> 
> comprendere? capice? verstehe?
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> 
> comprendere? capice? verstehe? guinea? wop?
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#868934

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2023-01-29 20:30 -0800
Message-ID<cntjaj-rlrc.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#868927
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> Jim Pennino wrote:
>> 
>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> > Jim Pennino wrote:
>> >>
>> >> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> >> > I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>> >> > worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>> >> >
>> >> > But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>> >> > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>> >> >
>> >> > That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>> >> >
>> >> > Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>> >> >
>> >>
>> >> Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
>> >>
>> >> The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
>> >> questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
>> >> the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
>> >> widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
>> >> The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
>> >> publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
>> >> The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
>> >> experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
>> >> literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
>> >> information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
>> >> lack of knowledge.
>> >>
>> >> It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
>> >> would say "Google it, idiot".
>> >>
>> >> <snip remaining nonsense>
>> >
>> > Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
>> >
>> >
>> > What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
>> >
>> >
>> > I'll repeat the question but add...
>> >
>> > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
>> > universe
>> > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
>> > vacuum????
>> 
>> Google it, idiot.
>> 
>> What is the speed of light in air?
>> 
>> About 1,060,000,000 results...
>> 
>> <snip idiot babble>
> 
> 
> I understand, you simply don't know.

You understand nothing, idiot.

> You're too embarassed to post a number...

I'm embarassed that I bothered with your idiotic nonsense in the first
place.

<snip idiotic reposting of what is above>

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#868928

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-01-29 18:42 -0600
Message-ID<k3oi30FnrnuU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#868923
On 1/29/2023 5:05 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> Jim Pennino wrote:
>>>
>>> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>>>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>>>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>>>>
>>>> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>>>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>>>>
>>>> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>>>>
>>>> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>>>>
>>>
>>> Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
>>>
>>> The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
>>> questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
>>> the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
>>> widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
>>> The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
>>> publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
>>> The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
>>> experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
>>> literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
>>> information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
>>> lack of knowledge.
>>>
>>> It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
>>> would say "Google it, idiot".
>>>
>>> <snip remaining nonsense>
>>
>> Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
>>
>>
>> What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
>>
>>
>> I'll repeat the question but add...
>>
>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
>> universe
>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
>> vacuum????
> 
> Google it, idiot.
> 
> What is the speed of light in air?
> 
> About 1,060,000,000 results...
> 
> <snip idiot babble>

Readers of these sci newsgroups see this all too frequently, a clear
demonstration of the dunning-kruger effect where the idiot doesn't
realize just how much of an idiot he is being.

One of the possible answers to the question as asked is 38 mph.

https://abcnews.go.com/Technology/story?id=99111&page=1

"Starmaker" doesn't understand the question he is asking. That's
really bad form.

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#868926

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-29 16:20 -0800
Message-ID<63D70D46.628A@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#868920
Paul Alsing wrote:
> 
> On Sunday, January 29, 2023 at 2:22:12 PM UTC-8, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> > What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
> 
> Are you incapable of just looking this up for yourself? The answer is very easy to find, at least for people with normal intelligence...

I understand perfectly well, you simply don't know. 



The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Jim Pennino wrote:
> >
> > In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> > > worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> > >
> > > But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> > > is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> > >
> > > That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> > >
> > > Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> > >
> > >
> > > What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> > >
> >
> > Analyses of the above text by ChatGPT:
> >
> > The text is asking a question about the speed of light and
> > questioning why it is not possible to know or ask about it. However,
> > the speed of light is a well-established scientific fact and is
> > widely accepted to be 299,792,458 meters per second in a vacuum.
> > The text also seems to suggest that it is forbidden to test or
> > publish information about the speed of light, which is not true.
> > The speed of light can be measured and studied through various
> > experiments and the results are widely available in scientific
> > literature. The text could be improved by providing more accurate
> > information and avoiding statements that suggest a conspiracy or
> > lack of knowledge.
> >
> > It would seem to me that if ChatGPT weren't programmed to be polite, it
> > would say "Google it, idiot".
> >
> > <snip remaining nonsense>
> 
> Okay, I see someone with an imglish problem here...
> 
> What is the speed of light NOT in a vacuum???
> 
> I'll repeat the question but add...
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the
> universe
> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light NOT NOT NOT in a
> vacuum????
> 
> comprendere? capice? verstehe?
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> 
> comprendere? capice? verstehe? guinea? wop?
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.



-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#868987

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-31 09:56 -0800
Message-ID<63D9566B.3C4F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#868911
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> 
> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> 
> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> 
> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> 
> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> 
> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
> 
>  vac·u·um
> /'vak?yo?om/
> noun
> 
>     a space entirely devoid of matter.
>     synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
> 
> What is the speed of light, anyway?
> 

I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
does.

And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
of light.

Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
is constant.

Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
Yous sleep better.

And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
box.


But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
speed of light?

Does anything else travel faster in the universe, or does light travel
faster in the universe?


I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
does.


I don't trust anyone who keeps repeating...",in a vacuum" all the time.
Yous sound brainwashed.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#868990

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-01-31 12:53 -0600
Message-ID<k3t6e8Ff1npU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#868987
On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Starmaker wrote:
>>
>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>>
>> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>>
>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>>
>> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>>
>> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>>
>> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>>
>> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
>> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
>>
>>   vac·u·um
>> /'vak?yo?om/
>> noun
>>
>>      a space entirely devoid of matter.
>>      synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
>>
>> What is the speed of light, anyway?
>>
> 
> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
> does.
> 
> And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
> to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
> of light.
> 
> Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
> is constant.
> 
> Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
> Yous sleep better.

> And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
> box.
> 
> 
> But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
> speed of light?



Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
it varies with conditions. There is a "maximum speed of light" and there
is a so far established minimum speed of light. Both of those, as well
as all intermediate speeds detected, are conditional.

The question you have been asking repeatedly is similar to "what is the
IQ?" That too is conditional. Or "What is the drowning depth?"
Conditional also.




> Does anything else travel faster in the universe, or does light travel
> faster in the universe?
> 
> 
> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
> does.


Repeating yourself as you do in this article is one of the signs of
old age dementia. Congratulations on achieving that milestone.



> I don't trust anyone who keeps repeating...",in a vacuum" all the time.
> Yous sound brainwashed.

Your ability or inability to trust has no bearing on anything. Your
inability to understand the answer provided explains your status in the
pecking order around here. There are moments when Mitch makes more sense
than you do.

If you cannot understand the answer given here (and given before) then
even considering the very liberal nature of the charters of these
newsgroups you should not be attempting to participate here.

At this point you are a strong candidate for the 2023 Darwin Award. You
can easily win if you just hang in there.

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#868997

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-01-31 16:58 -0800
Message-ID<63D9B925.218B@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#868990
whodat wrote:
> 
> On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> >> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> >>
> >> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> >>
> >> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> >> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> >>
> >> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> >>
> >> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> >>
> >> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> >>
> >> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
> >> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
> >>
> >>   vac·u·um
> >> /'vak?yo?om/
> >> noun
> >>
> >>      a space entirely devoid of matter.
> >>      synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
> >> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
> >>
> >> What is the speed of light, anyway?
> >>
> >
> > I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
> > does.
> >
> > And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
> > to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
> > of light.
> >
> > Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
> > is constant.
> >
> > Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
> > Yous sleep better.
> 
> > And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
> > box.
> >
> >
> > But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
> > speed of light?
> 
> Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
> been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
> it varies with conditions. There is a "maximum speed of light" and there
> is a so far established minimum speed of light. Both of those, as well
> as all intermediate speeds detected, are conditional.
> 
> The question you have been asking repeatedly is similar to "what is the
> IQ?" That too is conditional. Or "What is the drowning depth?"
> Conditional also.
> 
> > Does anything else travel faster in the universe, or does light travel
> > faster in the universe?
> >
> >
> > I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
> > does.
> 
> Repeating yourself as you do in this article is one of the signs of
> old age dementia. Congratulations on achieving that milestone.
> 
> > I don't trust anyone who keeps repeating...",in a vacuum" all the time.
> > Yous sound brainwashed.
> 
> Your ability or inability to trust has no bearing on anything. Your
> inability to understand the answer provided explains your status in the
> pecking order around here. There are moments when Mitch makes more sense
> than you do.
> 
> If you cannot understand the answer given here (and given before) then
> even considering the very liberal nature of the charters of these
> newsgroups you should not be attempting to participate here.
> 
> At this point you are a strong candidate for the 2023 Darwin Award. You
> can easily win if you just hang in there.

another one who don't know what the speed of light is...a mind entirely
devoid of answers.





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#869000

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2023-01-31 18:00 -0800
Message-ID<hmtoaj-bonh.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#868997
In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> whodat wrote:
>> 
>> On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> > The Starmaker wrote:
>> >>
>> >> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>> >> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>> >>
>> >> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>> >>
>> >> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>> >> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>> >>
>> >> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>> >>
>> >> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>> >>
>> >> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>> >>
>> >> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
>> >> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
>> >>
>> >>   vac·u·um
>> >> /'vak?yo?om/
>> >> noun
>> >>
>> >>      a space entirely devoid of matter.
>> >>      synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
>> >> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
>> >>
>> >> What is the speed of light, anyway?
>> >>
>> >
>> > I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>> > does.
>> >
>> > And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
>> > to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
>> > of light.
>> >
>> > Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
>> > is constant.
>> >
>> > Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
>> > Yous sleep better.
>> 
>> > And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
>> > box.
>> >
>> >
>> > But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
>> > speed of light?
>> 
>> Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
>> been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
>> it varies with conditions. There is a "maximum speed of light" and there
>> is a so far established minimum speed of light. Both of those, as well
>> as all intermediate speeds detected, are conditional.
>> 
>> The question you have been asking repeatedly is similar to "what is the
>> IQ?" That too is conditional. Or "What is the drowning depth?"
>> Conditional also.
>> 
>> > Does anything else travel faster in the universe, or does light travel
>> > faster in the universe?
>> >
>> >
>> > I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>> > does.
>> 
>> Repeating yourself as you do in this article is one of the signs of
>> old age dementia. Congratulations on achieving that milestone.
>> 
>> > I don't trust anyone who keeps repeating...",in a vacuum" all the time.
>> > Yous sound brainwashed.
>> 
>> Your ability or inability to trust has no bearing on anything. Your
>> inability to understand the answer provided explains your status in the
>> pecking order around here. There are moments when Mitch makes more sense
>> than you do.
>> 
>> If you cannot understand the answer given here (and given before) then
>> even considering the very liberal nature of the charters of these
>> newsgroups you should not be attempting to participate here.
>> 
>> At this point you are a strong candidate for the 2023 Darwin Award. You
>> can easily win if you just hang in there.
> 
> another one who don't know what the speed of light is...a mind entirely
> devoid of answers.

Bugs Bunny said it best, "What a maroon."

 

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#869003

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-01-31 20:21 -0600
Message-ID<k3u0lvFiqbhU2@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#869000
On 1/31/2023 8:00 PM, Jim Pennino wrote:
> In sci.physics The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>> whodat wrote:
>>>
>>> On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>>>>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>>>>>
>>>>> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>>>>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>>>>>
>>>>> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>>>>>
>>>>> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>>>>>
>>>>> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
>>>>> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
>>>>>
>>>>>    vac·u·um
>>>>> /'vak?yo?om/
>>>>> noun
>>>>>
>>>>>       a space entirely devoid of matter.
>>>>>       synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
>>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
>>>>>
>>>>> What is the speed of light, anyway?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>>>> does.
>>>>
>>>> And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
>>>> to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
>>>> of light.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
>>>> is constant.
>>>>
>>>> Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
>>>> Yous sleep better.
>>>
>>>> And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
>>>> box.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
>>>> speed of light?
>>>
>>> Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
>>> been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
>>> it varies with conditions. There is a "maximum speed of light" and there
>>> is a so far established minimum speed of light. Both of those, as well
>>> as all intermediate speeds detected, are conditional.
>>>
>>> The question you have been asking repeatedly is similar to "what is the
>>> IQ?" That too is conditional. Or "What is the drowning depth?"
>>> Conditional also.
>>>
>>>> Does anything else travel faster in the universe, or does light travel
>>>> faster in the universe?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>>>> does.
>>>
>>> Repeating yourself as you do in this article is one of the signs of
>>> old age dementia. Congratulations on achieving that milestone.
>>>
>>>> I don't trust anyone who keeps repeating...",in a vacuum" all the time.
>>>> Yous sound brainwashed.
>>>
>>> Your ability or inability to trust has no bearing on anything. Your
>>> inability to understand the answer provided explains your status in the
>>> pecking order around here. There are moments when Mitch makes more sense
>>> than you do.
>>>
>>> If you cannot understand the answer given here (and given before) then
>>> even considering the very liberal nature of the charters of these
>>> newsgroups you should not be attempting to participate here.
>>>
>>> At this point you are a strong candidate for the 2023 Darwin Award. You
>>> can easily win if you just hang in there.
>>
>> another one who don't know what the speed of light is...a mind entirely
>> devoid of answers.
> 
> Bugs Bunny said it best, "What a maroon."

He doesn't understand that either.

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#869002 — Pathetic Starmaker *was Re: What is the speed of light????)

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-01-31 20:20 -0600
SubjectPathetic Starmaker *was Re: What is the speed of light????)
Message-ID<k3u0jsFiqbhU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#868997
On 1/31/2023 6:58 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>>>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>>>>
>>>> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>>>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>>>>
>>>> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>>>>
>>>> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
>>>> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
>>>>
>>>>    vac·u·um
>>>> /'vak?yo?om/
>>>> noun
>>>>
>>>>       a space entirely devoid of matter.
>>>>       synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, anyway?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>>> does.
>>>
>>> And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
>>> to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
>>> of light.
>>>
>>> Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
>>> is constant.
>>>
>>> Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
>>> Yous sleep better.
>>
>>> And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
>>> box.
>>>
>>>
>>> But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
>>> speed of light?
>>
>> Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
>> been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
>> it varies with conditions. There is a "maximum speed of light" and there
>> is a so far established minimum speed of light. Both of those, as well
>> as all intermediate speeds detected, are conditional.
>>
>> The question you have been asking repeatedly is similar to "what is the
>> IQ?" That too is conditional. Or "What is the drowning depth?"
>> Conditional also.
>>
>>> Does anything else travel faster in the universe, or does light travel
>>> faster in the universe?
>>>
>>>
>>> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>>> does.
>>
>> Repeating yourself as you do in this article is one of the signs of
>> old age dementia. Congratulations on achieving that milestone.
>>
>>> I don't trust anyone who keeps repeating...",in a vacuum" all the time.
>>> Yous sound brainwashed.
>>
>> Your ability or inability to trust has no bearing on anything. Your
>> inability to understand the answer provided explains your status in the
>> pecking order around here. There are moments when Mitch makes more sense
>> than you do.
>>
>> If you cannot understand the answer given here (and given before) then
>> even considering the very liberal nature of the charters of these
>> newsgroups you should not be attempting to participate here.
>>
>> At this point you are a strong candidate for the 2023 Darwin Award. You
>> can easily win if you just hang in there.
> 
> another one who don't know what the speed of light is...a mind entirely
> devoid of answers.


I told you twice. You're simply too stupid to understand that the
speed of light depends on conditions, different for all cases of "not
in a vacuum." It is really pathetic when someone asks a question but
they're too stupid to understand the simple answer.

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#869047

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2023-02-01 20:39 -0800
Message-ID<63DB3E67.4712@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#868990
whodat wrote:
> 
> On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> >>
> >> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> >> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> >>
> >> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
> >>
> >> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
> >> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
> >>
> >> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
> >>
> >> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
> >>
> >> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
> >>
> >> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
> >> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
> >>
> >>   vac·u·um
> >> /'vak?yo?om/
> >> noun
> >>
> >>      a space entirely devoid of matter.
> >>      synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
> >> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
> >>
> >> What is the speed of light, anyway?
> >>
> >
> > I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
> > does.
> >
> > And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
> > to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
> > of light.
> >
> > Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
> > is constant.
> >
> > Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
> > Yous sleep better.
> 
> > And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
> > box.
> >
> >
> > But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
> > speed of light?
> 
> Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
> been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
> it varies with conditions. 


What do you mean exactly by "varies with conditions"? What conditions
does it vary with?? Can you give an example???





-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#869052

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-02-02 00:16 -0600
Message-ID<k412qhF2ogvU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#869047
On 2/1/2023 10:39 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> whodat wrote:
>>
>> On 1/31/2023 11:56 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> The Starmaker wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>>>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
>>>>
>>>> But since I question the unquestionable, and ask the unaskable,...
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't live in a vacuum..and the universe
>>>> is not in a vacuum...so What is the speed of light?
>>>>
>>>> That number doesn't appear to be anywhere. Are you not suppose to know, ...or even ask?
>>>>
>>>> Or even test it to find the answer because it is forbidden to test it and publish it for others to see????
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, since I don't 'live in' a vacuum?
>>>>
>>>> Oh, I forgot..most of yous don't know what the definition of a "vacuum" is...
>>>> so for your convenience I'll post it here...(maybes yous forgots)
>>>>
>>>>    vac·u·um
>>>> /'vak?yo?om/
>>>> noun
>>>>
>>>>       a space entirely devoid of matter.
>>>>       synonyms: empty space, emptiness, void, nothingness, vacuity, vacancy, voidness, nihility
>>>> https://www.google.com/search?hl=en&source=hp&biw=&bih=&q=define+vacuum
>>>>
>>>> What is the speed of light, anyway?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I mean, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", nobody
>>> does.
>>>
>>> And I understand yous have been 'conditioned'/indoctrinated/mandated
>>> to only think in terms of..."in a vacuum" whenever refering to the speed
>>> of light.
>>>
>>> Maybe because this hangup yous people have to always desire to know what
>>> is constant.
>>>
>>> Yous don't like uncertaintly. So you want a same number ALL the time.
>>> Yous sleep better.
>>
>>> And Einstein sleeps better if he conditions yous to only think in his
>>> box.
>>>
0>>
>>> But, I don't live in "a space entirely devoid of matter", so what is the
>>> speed of light?
>>
>> Asked and answered, but apparently you are too stupid to read what has
>> been provided. There is no answer to "what is the speed of light" since
>> it varies with conditions.
> 
> 
> What do you mean exactly by "varies with conditions"? What conditions
> does it vary with?? Can you give an example???


It is clear you are way out of your depth, but here goes:

All light moves through a medium. In a vacuum that medium is space,
defined by Einstein in 1920 to be the ether.[1] Not a point to be argued
here either way, but the speed at that point is generally agreed to be
"c." Anyone can look up the detail. Only cranks argue about this and
theyshould get no attention.

When traveling in "not space" light is traveling through something else.
For example, when traveling through a glass or plastic lens, the
speed is slower than it is in atmospheric air. If that glass or
plastic has a shape that is not parallel surfaces, then that
is considered a lens. See examples at 
<https://ohioenergy.org/wp-content/uploads/2019/08/5L13-Light-What-Are-Lenses-Teacher-Handout.pdf> 


Ordinary glasses people wear depend on those principles.

Every different "not in space" medium yields different speed for
light.

If you look into a pond or stream and see a fish, that fish is not
where it seems to be. The speed of light is different in water than
it is in air so "refraction" happens.

"Spearfishing with a hand-held spear from land, shallow water or boat 
has been practised for thousands of years. The fisher must account for 
optical refraction at the water's surface, which makes fish appear 
higher in their line of sight than they are. By experience, the fisher 
learns to aim lower. Calm and shallow waters are favored for spearing 
fish from above the surface, as water clarity is of utmost importance. 
Many people who grew up on farms in the midwest U.S. in the 1940s-'60s 
recall going spearing for carp with pitchforks when their fields flooded 
in the spring. Spearfishing in this manner has some similarities to 
bowfishing."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spearfishing

All of this, and especially the deal with how and where we see fish in
the water, was taught no later than high school general science when I
was going to school. Indeed I took that course in 1954. Apparently you
have been short changed possibly your own fault where it comes to such
elementary science knowledge. You appear to me to have been one of those
boys who sat in the back of the classroom cutting up all the time
instead of paying attention. In that way you missed out acquiring
general knowledge your peers got and you've been left behind.

Clearly you should do a lot of reading on these topics in order to
become qualified to make comments on the state of science. I found
"physics for dummies" on eBay for as little as $3.98 or thriftbooks for
$5.89. That would be a really good starting point for you, no insult
intended by the title you insult your own intelligence plenty enough
here.

[1] As I have posted several times before, this is Einstein's speech
in 1920. Pay particular attention to the final paragraph:

<https://mathshistory.st-andrews.ac.uk/Extras/Einstein_ether/>

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#872457

FromSylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid>
Date2023-04-05 15:02 +1000
Message-ID<k94dnnFbcacU3@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#868911
On 30-Jan-23 6:57 am, The Starmaker wrote:
> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..

That seems a strange claim.

It's exactly 299,792,458 metres per second.

Sylvia.

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#872491

Fromwhodat <whodaat@void.nowgre.com>
Date2023-04-05 15:30 -0500
Message-ID<k96429Fl41uU1@mid.individual.net>
In reply to#872457
On 4/5/2023 12:02 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> On 30-Jan-23 6:57 am, The Starmaker wrote:
>> I know you're not suppose to ask this question...
>> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it..
> 
> That seems a strange claim.
> 
> It's exactly 299,792,458 metres per second.
> 
> Sylvia.

We pick some star approximately 20 light years from earth. We
then predict its location for some time in the future based on
hitting that star based the speed of light you have defined for
us. If we dispatch a three second beam of light at the future
location of that star will our beam of light actually hit it?

This question is based on our knowledge of the path traveled by
our light beam appears to be a straight line while in reality
our beam of light will travel a somewhat longer geodesic path
that we cannot define.

Hint: there's more than one problem involved.

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#872798

From"mitchr...@gmail.com" <mitchrae3323@gmail.com>
Date2023-04-10 11:05 -0700
Message-ID<b9e5d64a-d189-4098-a5b5-a9e78064a89fn@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#872491
On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:30:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
> On 4/5/2023 12:02 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: 
> > On 30-Jan-23 6:57 am, The Starmaker wrote: 
> >> I know you're not suppose to ask this question... 
> >> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it.. 
> > 
> > That seems a strange claim. 
> > 
> > It's exactly 299,792,458 metres per second. 
> > 
> > Sylvia.
> We pick some star approximately 20 light years from earth. We 
> then predict its location for some time in the future based on 
> hitting that star based the speed of light you have defined for 
> us. If we dispatch a three second beam of light at the future 
> location of that star will our beam of light actually hit it? 
> 
> This question is based on our knowledge of the path traveled by 
> our light beam appears to be a straight line while in reality 
> our beam of light will travel a somewhat longer geodesic path 
> that we cannot define. 
> 
> Hint: there's more than one problem involved.

If the speed of light changes as from the past
their is a different E=mc Squared.
Gamma would also contain a changing light
speed. Both equations would go dynamic
by a changing light speed.

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#872799

FromJim Pennino <jimp@gonzo.specsol.net>
Date2023-04-10 11:18 -0700
Message-ID<dh0egj-otd41.ln1@gonzo.specsol.net>
In reply to#872798
mitchr...@gmail.com <mitchrae3323@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Wednesday, April 5, 2023 at 1:30:08 PM UTC-7, whodat wrote:
>> On 4/5/2023 12:02 AM, Sylvia Else wrote: 
>> > On 30-Jan-23 6:57 am, The Starmaker wrote: 
>> >> I know you're not suppose to ask this question... 
>> >> worse yet, you're not even suppose to answer it.. 
>> > 
>> > That seems a strange claim. 
>> > 
>> > It's exactly 299,792,458 metres per second. 
>> > 
>> > Sylvia.
>> We pick some star approximately 20 light years from earth. We 
>> then predict its location for some time in the future based on 
>> hitting that star based the speed of light you have defined for 
>> us. If we dispatch a three second beam of light at the future 
>> location of that star will our beam of light actually hit it? 
>> 
>> This question is based on our knowledge of the path traveled by 
>> our light beam appears to be a straight line while in reality 
>> our beam of light will travel a somewhat longer geodesic path 
>> that we cannot define. 
>> 
>> Hint: there's more than one problem involved.
> 
> If the speed of light changes as from the past
> their is a different E=mc Squared.
> Gamma would also contain a changing light
> speed. Both equations would go dynamic
> by a changing light speed.

Moronic babbling gibberish.

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