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Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

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  Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the  Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-12 22:14 -0700
    Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2022-05-13 00:53 -0500
      Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2022-05-13 14:42 -0500
        Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2022-05-13 15:44 -0500
    Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the   Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-13 12:04 -0700
      Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-13 17:44 -0700
        Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-15 00:48 -0700
          Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-15 10:39 -0700
            Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-16 09:35 -0700
              Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-17 11:27 -0700
                Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, Clutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com> - 2022-05-17 15:02 -0500
              Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, Arindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com> - 2022-05-17 17:45 -0700
            Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-18 11:09 -0700
              Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way, The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-05-18 14:59 -0700

#852304 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-12 22:14 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<627DE937.763A@ix.netcom.com>
They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?


Here is the sharp version:

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1


Richard Hertz wrote:
> 
> FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> 
> *******************************************
> https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> 
> Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> 
> Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> 
> Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> 
> 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> 
> 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> 
> 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> 
> 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> 
> 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> five years.
> 
> 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> 
>  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> 
> The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> 
> Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> 
> European Southern Observatory
> Institute of Advanced Studies
> Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> National Science Foundation
> 
> ******************************************
> DISCLAIMER:
> 
> The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> 
> The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> 
> The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> 
> This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> the equations of GR.
> 
> Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.

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#852305 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-13 00:53 -0500
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<t5krpg$g1rg$1@solani.org>
In reply to#852304
On 5/13/2022 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
> Here is the sharp version:


So there's a Halloween pumpkin in there as far as you should be concerned.

Now see if you can solve this lab assistant's worries:

You are given five pieces of information. They're written on the wall in 
the lab. She (the assistant) can always look up and read them:

1- densities of all solvents in lab
2- densities of all solutions in lab
3- densities of all solutes in lab
4- molecular weights of all solvents in lab
5- molecular weights of all solutes in lab

Now she's often asked to prepare some solution in units of mole percent 
(i.e. # of moles of solute per 100 moles of solvent) while practically 
all bottles of stuff stored in the lab indicate their contents in units 
of volume percent (i.e. # of ml of solute per 100 ml of solvent).

How can she not fuck up like Americans for the past 40 years have, and 
take correct amounts of solutes and solvents from lab to make the 
solution exactly as asked?

You don't have to explain everything (but you can if you want). Just 
give the correct conversion factor here, and that would be enough for 
the answer.


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#852339 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-13 14:42 -0500
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<t5mcc3$fk77$1@solani.org>
In reply to#852305
On 5/13/2022 12:53 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>> Here is the sharp version:
> 
> 
> So there's a Halloween pumpkin in there as far as you should be concerned.
> 
> Now see if you can solve this lab assistant's worries:
> 
> You are given five pieces of information. They're written on the wall in 
> the lab. She (the assistant) can always look up and read them:
> 
> 1- densities of all solvents in lab
> 2- densities of all solutions in lab
> 3- densities of all solutes in lab
> 4- molecular weights of all solvents in lab
> 5- molecular weights of all solutes in lab
> 
> Now she's often asked to prepare some solution in units of mole percent 
> (i.e. # of moles of solute per 100 moles of solvent) while practically 
> all bottles of stuff stored in the lab indicate their contents in units 
> of volume percent (i.e. # of ml of solute per 100 ml of solvent).
> 
> How can she not fuck up like Americans for the past 40 years have, and 
> take correct amounts of solutes and solvents from lab to make the 
> solution exactly as asked?
> 
> You don't have to explain everything (but you can if you want). Just 
> give the correct conversion factor here, and that would be enough for 
> the answer.
> 
> 


If you are THAT	bored and finding nothing to do, do the same for the 
following other cases as well cause she's going to need them :-)

1- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
_solution_ this time (in my last post she was asked in units of mole 
percent _solvent_) and the lab, like before, has the material in units 
of volume percent solvent.

2- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solvent (like in last post) but lab only has them in volume percent 
_solution_ not solvent like in the last post).

3- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
percent solution.

4- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
percent solvent.

5- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
100 ml solvent.

6- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
100 ml solution.

7- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
percent solution.

8- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
percent solvent.

9- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
100 ml solvent.

10- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
100 ml solution.

11- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
100 ml solution.

12- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
100 ml solvent.

13. She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of mole 
percent solvent.

14. She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of mole percent 
solvent.

And so on and so on...

:-))

Welcome to a physics forum Starmaker! See not everything can be gone 
over, or done, as carelessly as speaking about Bogart or Einstein or 
Black Holes. Sometimes one has to get his wits together and carefully 
watch everything one's doing.




















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#852344 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-13 15:44 -0500
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<t5mfve$fm2n$1@solani.org>
In reply to#852339
On 5/13/2022 2:42 PM, Clutterfreak wrote:
> On 5/13/2022 12:53 AM, Clutterfreak wrote:
>> On 5/13/2022 12:14 AM, The Starmaker wrote:
>>> Here is the sharp version:
>>
>>
>> So there's a Halloween pumpkin in there as far as you should be 
>> concerned.
>>
>> Now see if you can solve this lab assistant's worries:
>>
>> You are given five pieces of information. They're written on the wall 
>> in the lab. She (the assistant) can always look up and read them:
>>
>> 1- densities of all solvents in lab
>> 2- densities of all solutions in lab
>> 3- densities of all solutes in lab
>> 4- molecular weights of all solvents in lab
>> 5- molecular weights of all solutes in lab
>>
>> Now she's often asked to prepare some solution in units of mole 
>> percent (i.e. # of moles of solute per 100 moles of solvent) while 
>> practically all bottles of stuff stored in the lab indicate their 
>> contents in units of volume percent (i.e. # of ml of solute per 100 ml 
>> of solvent).
>>
>> How can she not fuck up like Americans for the past 40 years have, and 
>> take correct amounts of solutes and solvents from lab to make the 
>> solution exactly as asked?
>>
>> You don't have to explain everything (but you can if you want). Just 
>> give the correct conversion factor here, and that would be enough for 
>> the answer.
>>
>>
> 
> 
> If you are THAT    bored and finding nothing to do, do the same for the 
> following other cases as well cause she's going to need them :-)
> 
> 1- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> _solution_ this time (in my last post she was asked in units of mole 
> percent _solvent_) and the lab, like before, has the material in units 
> of volume percent solvent.
> 
> 2- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solvent (like in last post) but lab only has them in volume percent 
> _solution_ not solvent like in the last post).
> 
> 3- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
> percent solution.
> 
> 4- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
> percent solvent.
> 
> 5- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
> 100 ml solvent.
> 
> 6- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
> 100 ml solution.
> 
> 7- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
> percent solution.
> 
> 8- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight 
> percent solvent.
> 
> 9- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
> 100 ml solvent.
> 
> 10- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of mole percent 
> solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
> 100 ml solution.
> 
> 11- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
> solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
> 100 ml solution.
> 
> 12- She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
> solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of weight per 
> 100 ml solvent.
> 
> 13. She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
> solution, but the lab happens to have everything in units of mole 
> percent solvent.
> 
> 14. She's asked for preparation of a solution in units of weight percent 
> solvent, but the lab happens to have everything in units of mole percent 
> solvent.
> 
> And so on and so on...
> 
> :-))
> 
> Welcome to a physics forum Starmaker! See not everything can be gone 
> over, or done, as carelessly as speaking about Bogart or Einstein or 
> Black Holes. Sometimes one has to get his wits together and carefully 
> watch everything one's doing.
> 
> 
>


Of course what she actually does in that lab is much more careful than 
just calculating the conversion factors in each case correctly. These 
factors involve densities sometimes, so they're temperature dependent, 
and the wall only gives the densities for each solvent or solution at a 
particular temperature. So oftentimes she has to also bring the material 
to the temperature at which densities are known to her before she 
measures the correct quantities of them.

And there are often other units used as well which I didn't include for 
brevity. Mole Fraction, molality, molarity, ... But you get the point.

But she's thanking god as long as she's dealing with solids and liquids 
in different open vessels and containers she doesn't have to bother much 
with pressure :-) Hahahah :) She should thank god indeed. Cause if she 
had to deal with gases as well, then that lab would need a McGinn to do 
everything right. A mortal lab assistant that she is, wouldn't do.







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#852333 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-13 12:04 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<627EABD7.4F0F@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852304
Now, all you have to do is take this 'sharpen' photo of the blurry black
hole
https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1

and add around 160 percent blur (Gaussian Blur) and it looks the new
fraudulent Black Hole photo in the news.



There is a reason why men's vision gets blurry as they get older...it
makes their wives look younger.


all you see is a black hole.


If you put a paper bag over you wife's head you need to put a hole in
it.



NASA needs a Black Hole.


They remove the blue and green primary light colors..




all you left with is red and black.






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?
> 
> Here is the sharp version:
> 
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> 
> Richard Hertz wrote:
> >
> > FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> > GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> >
> > *******************************************
> > https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> >
> > Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> >
> > Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> >
> > Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> >
> > 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> >
> > 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> >
> > 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> >
> > 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> >
> > 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> > minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> > corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> > equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> > due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> > five years.
> >
> > 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> >
> >  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> >
> > The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> >
> > Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> >
> > European Southern Observatory
> > Institute of Advanced Studies
> > Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> > National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> > National Science Foundation
> >
> > ******************************************
> > DISCLAIMER:
> >
> > The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> > RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> >
> > The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> >
> > The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> > the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> >
> > This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> > waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> > stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> > the equations of GR.
> >
> > Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.
> 
> --
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>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

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#852362 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-13 17:44 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<627EFB69.3C84@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852333
Here is a video from sharp back to blurry

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1525273775251419136


https://youtu.be/0a7etYMLqPs



i guess they are trying to hide the stuff that is inside a black hole...

but  i'm in the mood for a jelly doughnut!


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Now, all you have to do is take this 'sharpen' photo of the blurry black
> hole
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> 
> and add around 160 percent blur (Gaussian Blur) and it looks the new
> fraudulent Black Hole photo in the news.
> 
> There is a reason why men's vision gets blurry as they get older...it
> makes their wives look younger.
> 
> all you see is a black hole.
> 
> If you put a paper bag over you wife's head you need to put a hole in
> it.
> 
> NASA needs a Black Hole.
> 
> They remove the blue and green primary light colors..
> 
> all you left with is red and black.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?
> >
> > Here is the sharp version:
> >
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> >
> > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > >
> > > FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> > > GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> > >
> > > *******************************************
> > > https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> > >
> > > Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> > >
> > > Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> > >
> > > Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> > >
> > > 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> > >
> > > 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> > >
> > > 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> > >
> > > 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> > >
> > > 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> > > minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> > > corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> > > equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> > > due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> > > five years.
> > >
> > > 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> > >
> > >  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> > >
> > > The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> > >
> > > Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> > >
> > > European Southern Observatory
> > > Institute of Advanced Studies
> > > Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> > > National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> > > National Science Foundation
> > >
> > > ******************************************
> > > DISCLAIMER:
> > >
> > > The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> > > RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> > >
> > > The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> > >
> > > The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> > > the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> > >
> > > This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> > > waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> > > stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> > > the equations of GR.
> > >
> > > Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#852507 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-15 00:48 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<6280B062.106D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852362
Now, here is the First black hole photo they showed last year:


the blurry one
https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/1

and my sharpen version one
https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2



Are they going to repeat the same process over and over again for the rest of the billion black holes out there???




I like my sharpen version better:
https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2


only problem is, there is no black hole...


https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/3


they are just waves like an ocean wave...

waddayoucallit, gravitional waves?


space is wet
but
you're
like a fish
you don't feel
the wet.


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Here is a video from sharp back to blurry
> 
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1525273775251419136
> 
> https://youtu.be/0a7etYMLqPs
> 
> i guess they are trying to hide the stuff that is inside a black hole...
> 
> but  i'm in the mood for a jelly doughnut!
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Now, all you have to do is take this 'sharpen' photo of the blurry black
> > hole
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> >
> > and add around 160 percent blur (Gaussian Blur) and it looks the new
> > fraudulent Black Hole photo in the news.
> >
> > There is a reason why men's vision gets blurry as they get older...it
> > makes their wives look younger.
> >
> > all you see is a black hole.
> >
> > If you put a paper bag over you wife's head you need to put a hole in
> > it.
> >
> > NASA needs a Black Hole.
> >
> > They remove the blue and green primary light colors..
> >
> > all you left with is red and black.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?
> > >
> > > Here is the sharp version:
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > >
> > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > >
> > > > FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> > > > GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> > > >
> > > > *******************************************
> > > > https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> > > >
> > > > Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> > > >
> > > > Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> > > >
> > > > Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> > > >
> > > > 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> > > >
> > > > 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> > > >
> > > > 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> > > >
> > > > 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> > > >
> > > > 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> > > > minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> > > > corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> > > > equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> > > > due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> > > > five years.
> > > >
> > > > 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> > > >
> > > >  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> > > >
> > > > The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> > > >
> > > > Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> > > >
> > > > European Southern Observatory
> > > > Institute of Advanced Studies
> > > > Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> > > > National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> > > > National Science Foundation
> > > >
> > > > ******************************************
> > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > >
> > > > The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> > > > RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> > > >
> > > > The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> > > >
> > > > The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> > > > the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> > > >
> > > > This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> > > > waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> > > > stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> > > > the equations of GR.
> > > >
> > > > Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#852534 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-15 10:39 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<62813AD1.47A5@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852507
It appears to me that the mad scientists took
their info to the ...'Art Dept.' and told them,
"Gimme a Black Hole without looking like it was retouch
in Photoshop!"

And the 'art dept' genius blurred it so that
it appears to be a black hole in the center.

Actually, THEY BLURRED EVERYTHING!!!!


Then they took it back to the
mad scientists and he said...
"WHAT THE FUCK IS DAT????"

and the girl sez, "That's your black hole."

and the mad scientists sez to her..

"IT LOOK LIKE YOUR FUCKING ASS YOU UGLY FUCKIN BITCH!!!!"

of course she runs out of the room crying...




(watch how real women scientists are treated in the scientific community)

https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Now, here is the First black hole photo they showed last year:
> 
> the blurry one
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/1
> 
> and my sharpen version one
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2
> 
> Are they going to repeat the same process over and over again for the rest of the billion black holes out there???
> 
> I like my sharpen version better:
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2
> 
> only problem is, there is no black hole...
> 
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/3
> 
> they are just waves like an ocean wave...
> 
> waddayoucallit, gravitional waves?
> 
> space is wet
> but
> you're
> like a fish
> you don't feel
> the wet.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Here is a video from sharp back to blurry
> >
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1525273775251419136
> >
> > https://youtu.be/0a7etYMLqPs
> >
> > i guess they are trying to hide the stuff that is inside a black hole...
> >
> > but  i'm in the mood for a jelly doughnut!
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, all you have to do is take this 'sharpen' photo of the blurry black
> > > hole
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > >
> > > and add around 160 percent blur (Gaussian Blur) and it looks the new
> > > fraudulent Black Hole photo in the news.
> > >
> > > There is a reason why men's vision gets blurry as they get older...it
> > > makes their wives look younger.
> > >
> > > all you see is a black hole.
> > >
> > > If you put a paper bag over you wife's head you need to put a hole in
> > > it.
> > >
> > > NASA needs a Black Hole.
> > >
> > > They remove the blue and green primary light colors..
> > >
> > > all you left with is red and black.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?
> > > >
> > > > Here is the sharp version:
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > > >
> > > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> > > > > GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> > > > >
> > > > > *******************************************
> > > > > https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> > > > >
> > > > > Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> > > > >
> > > > > Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> > > > >
> > > > > Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> > > > >
> > > > > 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> > > > >
> > > > > 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> > > > >
> > > > > 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> > > > >
> > > > > 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> > > > >
> > > > > 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> > > > > minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> > > > > corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> > > > > equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> > > > > due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> > > > > five years.
> > > > >
> > > > > 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> > > > >
> > > > >  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> > > > >
> > > > > The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> > > > >
> > > > > Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> > > > >
> > > > > European Southern Observatory
> > > > > Institute of Advanced Studies
> > > > > Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> > > > > National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> > > > > National Science Foundation
> > > > >
> > > > > ******************************************
> > > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > >
> > > > > The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> > > > > RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> > > > >
> > > > > The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> > > > >
> > > > > The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> > > > > the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> > > > >
> > > > > This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> > > > > waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> > > > > stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> > > > > the equations of GR.
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#852619 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-16 09:35 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<62827D38.53ED@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852534
The Question is..
going by the images..

are there any Black Holes
in our solar system?


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> It appears to me that the mad scientists took
> their info to the ...'Art Dept.' and told them,
> "Gimme a Black Hole without looking like it was retouch
> in Photoshop!"
> 
> And the 'art dept' genius blurred it so that
> it appears to be a black hole in the center.
> 
> Actually, THEY BLURRED EVERYTHING!!!!
> 
> Then they took it back to the
> mad scientists and he said...
> "WHAT THE FUCK IS DAT????"
> 
> and the girl sez, "That's your black hole."
> 
> and the mad scientists sez to her..
> 
> "IT LOOK LIKE YOUR FUCKING ASS YOU UGLY FUCKIN BITCH!!!!"
> 
> of course she runs out of the room crying...
> 
> (watch how real women scientists are treated in the scientific community)
> 
> https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Now, here is the First black hole photo they showed last year:
> >
> > the blurry one
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/1
> >
> > and my sharpen version one
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2
> >
> > Are they going to repeat the same process over and over again for the rest of the billion black holes out there???
> >
> > I like my sharpen version better:
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2
> >
> > only problem is, there is no black hole...
> >
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/3
> >
> > they are just waves like an ocean wave...
> >
> > waddayoucallit, gravitional waves?
> >
> > space is wet
> > but
> > you're
> > like a fish
> > you don't feel
> > the wet.
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is a video from sharp back to blurry
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1525273775251419136
> > >
> > > https://youtu.be/0a7etYMLqPs
> > >
> > > i guess they are trying to hide the stuff that is inside a black hole...
> > >
> > > but  i'm in the mood for a jelly doughnut!
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Now, all you have to do is take this 'sharpen' photo of the blurry black
> > > > hole
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > > >
> > > > and add around 160 percent blur (Gaussian Blur) and it looks the new
> > > > fraudulent Black Hole photo in the news.
> > > >
> > > > There is a reason why men's vision gets blurry as they get older...it
> > > > makes their wives look younger.
> > > >
> > > > all you see is a black hole.
> > > >
> > > > If you put a paper bag over you wife's head you need to put a hole in
> > > > it.
> > > >
> > > > NASA needs a Black Hole.
> > > >
> > > > They remove the blue and green primary light colors..
> > > >
> > > > all you left with is red and black.
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?
> > > > >
> > > > > Here is the sharp version:
> > > > >
> > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> > > > > > GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > *******************************************
> > > > > > https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> > > > > > minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> > > > > > corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> > > > > > equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> > > > > > due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> > > > > > five years.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> > > > > >
> > > > > >  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> > > > > >
> > > > > > European Southern Observatory
> > > > > > Institute of Advanced Studies
> > > > > > Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> > > > > > National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> > > > > > National Science Foundation
> > > > > >
> > > > > > ******************************************
> > > > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> > > > > > RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> > > > > > the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> > > > > > waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> > > > > > stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> > > > > > the equations of GR.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.
> > > > >
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> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
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> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > and challenge
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> > >
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> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
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> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#852752 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-17 11:27 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<6283E907.25F1@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852619
Maybe yous people don't understand the question..
even if i made it simplier for you by using short sentences..

I'll try again.

> The Question is..
> going by the images..


"going by the images.." means, only looking
at the photos, not what other peoples opinions
are what in those photos...likes gases, or black holes.



I'll tell you what it is...

it is simply the sun shinning through waves above it.



https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej3WK6-U0AYV39t?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314442599365636097/photo/1


https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej3Vj_xUYAEJPUx?format=jpg&name=4096x4096



and the gravitional pull of the sun 'bends' the waves.



There are gravitional waves in our solar system.


Where's my camera?




> 
> are there any Black Holes
> in our solar system?

well, it might look like a black hole if you're one of "those people" in the 'scientific community'.


> > > the blurry one
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/1
> > >
> > > and my sharpen version one
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2

https://youtu.be/0a7etYMLqPs




The Truth Board





The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Question is..
> going by the images..
> 
> are there any Black Holes
> in our solar system?
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > It appears to me that the mad scientists took
> > their info to the ...'Art Dept.' and told them,
> > "Gimme a Black Hole without looking like it was retouch
> > in Photoshop!"
> >
> > And the 'art dept' genius blurred it so that
> > it appears to be a black hole in the center.
> >
> > Actually, THEY BLURRED EVERYTHING!!!!
> >
> > Then they took it back to the
> > mad scientists and he said...
> > "WHAT THE FUCK IS DAT????"
> >
> > and the girl sez, "That's your black hole."
> >
> > and the mad scientists sez to her..
> >
> > "IT LOOK LIKE YOUR FUCKING ASS YOU UGLY FUCKIN BITCH!!!!"
> >
> > of course she runs out of the room crying...
> >
> > (watch how real women scientists are treated in the scientific community)
> >
> > https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Now, here is the First black hole photo they showed last year:
> > >
> > > the blurry one
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/1
> > >
> > > and my sharpen version one
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2
> > >
> > > Are they going to repeat the same process over and over again for the rest of the billion black holes out there???
> > >
> > > I like my sharpen version better:
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/2
> > >
> > > only problem is, there is no black hole...
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1314447384261193728/photo/3
> > >
> > > they are just waves like an ocean wave...
> > >
> > > waddayoucallit, gravitional waves?
> > >
> > > space is wet
> > > but
> > > you're
> > > like a fish
> > > you don't feel
> > > the wet.
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Here is a video from sharp back to blurry
> > > >
> > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1525273775251419136
> > > >
> > > > https://youtu.be/0a7etYMLqPs
> > > >
> > > > i guess they are trying to hide the stuff that is inside a black hole...
> > > >
> > > > but  i'm in the mood for a jelly doughnut!
> > > >
> > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Now, all you have to do is take this 'sharpen' photo of the blurry black
> > > > > hole
> > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > > > >
> > > > > and add around 160 percent blur (Gaussian Blur) and it looks the new
> > > > > fraudulent Black Hole photo in the news.
> > > > >
> > > > > There is a reason why men's vision gets blurry as they get older...it
> > > > > makes their wives look younger.
> > > > >
> > > > > all you see is a black hole.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you put a paper bag over you wife's head you need to put a hole in
> > > > > it.
> > > > >
> > > > > NASA needs a Black Hole.
> > > > >
> > > > > They remove the blue and green primary light colors..
> > > > >
> > > > > all you left with is red and black.
> > > > >
> > > > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They couldn't get it any more bluuryerrr?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Here is the sharp version:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1524978633311256577/photo/1
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Richard Hertz wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > FEEDING THE MIND OF PEOPLE WITH CRAP LIKE LIGO AND
> > > > > > > GRAVITATIONAL WAVES. This was announced today on Western media.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > *******************************************
> > > > > > > https://eventhorizontelescope.org/blog/astronomers-reveal-first-image-black-hole-heart-our-galaxy
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Astronomers have confirmed the supermassive object at the heart of the Milky Way galaxy is indeed a black hole and captured the first-ever images of it using a worldwide network of telescopes. The images were unveiled on Thursday at *********** multiple press conferences by a team of researchers *********** known as the Event Horizon Telescope (EHT) Collaboration.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Known as Sagittarius A, the object at the center of the Milky Way – “invisible, compact and very massive,” as described in a press release published by the European Southern Observatory – was long suspected to be a black hole. However, the images created through linking up a global network of radio telescopes provide direct proof of this hypothesis.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Main points of the "multiple press conferences":
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 1) The images show a dark central “shadow” surrounded by a bright ring made up of glowing gasses, the light they produce bent by the black hole’s powerful gravity. The object has four million times the mass of the Sun, and is located 27,000 light years away from our planet.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 2) Gases are orbiting the black hole at near the speed of light. EHT scientist Chi-kwan Chan likening the process to “trying to take a clear picture of a puppy quickly chasing its tail.”
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 3) The visuals were recorded by linking together eight radio observatories around the world to form what the researchers described as “a single ‘Earth-sized’ virtual telescope,” which was then used to observe Sagittarius A for hours at a time on multiple nights in 2017.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 4) Powerful supercomputers and a team of more than 300 researchers from 80 institutes, previously imaged the black hole M87 at the center of the distant Messier 87 galaxy, publishing those findings in 2019. Sagittarius A is much closer, as well as over 1,000 times smaller and less massive. However, it was significantly more difficult to photograph, as it was equivalent to take a picture of a donut on the surface of the Moon from Earth.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 5) Actually, due that gases rotates around the black hole several times per
> > > > > > > minute, a composite picture, averaged in time, was required plus the
> > > > > > > corrections due to comparisons with the solutions of general relativity
> > > > > > > equations, until a satisfactory picture was obtained. The blurred image is
> > > > > > > due to the multiple averages, result of heavy post-processing in the last
> > > > > > > five years.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > 6) Accompanying the photographic findings were six papers published in the Astrophysical Journal Letters covering various aspects of the discovery, from the imaging process to the morphology of black holes.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > >  7) The main image was produced by averaging together thousands of images created using different computational methods — all of which accurately fit the EHT data. This averaged image retains features more commonly seen in the varied images, and suppresses features that appear infrequently.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The images can also be clustered into four groups based on similar features. An averaged, representative image for each of the four clusters is shown in the bottom row. Three of the clusters show a ring structure but, with differently distributed brightness around the ring. The fourth cluster contains images that also fit the data but do not appear ring-like.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Institutional Press Releases (in alphabetical order)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > European Southern Observatory
> > > > > > > Institute of Advanced Studies
> > > > > > > Max-Planck-Institut für Radioastronomie
> > > > > > > National Astronomical Observatory of Japan
> > > > > > > National Science Foundation
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > ******************************************
> > > > > > > DISCLAIMER:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The uber-doctore photograph IS NOT about OPTICAL wavelengths, but
> > > > > > > RADIO wavelengths, in the microwave region. So, IT'S NOT REAL!
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The Event Horizon Telescope (EHT), an array which linked together eight existing RADIO observatories across the planet to form a single “Earth-sized” VIRTUAL telescope. The telescope is named after the “event horizon”, the boundary of the black hole beyond which no light can escape.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > The collected data, around 2017, was post-processed during 5 YEARS until
> > > > > > > the result MATCHED the database of possible solutions of general relativity.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > This is EXACTLY the same process used around LIGO for detecting gravitational
> > > > > > > waves. Any signal was compared with hundred of thousand of patterns
> > > > > > > stored in supercomputers, which are the result of different solutions of
> > > > > > > the equations of GR.
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Now, go and believe whatever you want. But you was warned about this crap.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --
> > > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > > and challenge
> > > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> > > > > and challenge
> > > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable,
> and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

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#852772 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromClutterfreak <clutterfreakincarnate@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-17 15:02 -0500
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<t60v10$ldkh$1@solani.org>
In reply to#852752
On 5/17/2022 1:27 PM, The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Ej3WK6-U0AYV39t?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

I still see a Halloween pumpkin right in the middle.

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#852790 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromArindam Banerjee <banerjeeadda1234@gmail.com>
Date2022-05-17 17:45 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<cd45ba96-d8a6-4a34-9aab-cec61d983905n@googlegroups.com>
In reply to#852619
On Tuesday, 17 May 2022 at 02:35:02 UTC+10, The Starmaker wrote:
> The Question is.. 
> going by the images.. 
> 
> are there any Black Holes 
> in our solar system?

There are as many black holes as there are ultra-flexible e=mcc_wallahs
with their heads up their respective theirs.

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#852834 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-18 11:09 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<62853654.43A7@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852534
The Starmaker wrote:

> 
> (watch how real women scientists are treated in the scientific community)
> 
> https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549

So, I saw that Netflix title...
https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549

After seeing a few interviews
what I get from it is..

All men Scientists in the scientific community
feel that *all* women scientists
should be working at Pornhub instead of
in their scientific labs, am I right?










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 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
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#852905 — Re: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-05-18 14:59 -0700
SubjectRe: BREAKING: First image of supermassive black hole at the center of the Milky Way,
Message-ID<62856C26.4626@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#852834
The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> >
> > (watch how real women scientists are treated in the scientific community)
> >
> > https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549
> 
> So, I saw that Netflix title...
> https://www.netflix.com/title/81303549
> 
> After seeing a few interviews
> what I get from it is..
> 
> All men Scientists in the scientific community
> feel that *all* women scientists
> should be working at Pornhub instead of
> in their scientific labs, am I right?

So, in this Netflix film documentary.."Picture a Scientist"

the male scientists walks in the lab and sees the female scientists and
ask her..."Are you the janitor?"



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