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  Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-01-17 23:39 -0800
    Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-01-21 14:30 -0800
    Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-02-01 11:52 -0800
      Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-02-09 22:30 -0800
        Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-02-10 10:45 -0800
          Re: Einstein Lied Again The Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> - 2022-02-10 21:22 -0800
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#842074 — Re: Einstein Lied Again

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-01-17 23:39 -0800
SubjectRe: Einstein Lied Again
Message-ID<lqqcugphbaveig53vce5v96e04lem69fba@4ax.com>
On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...

https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%2023&f=false


But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
in the 1940's

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1


https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1


 Einstein Lied Again


I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
everybody doesn't want everybody to know.

So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
detonate and destroy ships for the military...

But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????

 
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#842398

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-01-21 14:30 -0800
Message-ID<53qlugdgeickq4rfnfr0k2rpcehuej058p@4ax.com>
In reply to#842074
Albert Einstein is always trying to wipe the BLOOD off his hands...

(it's a pattern with all scientist..they build bombs and germs that
kill, and then they say...No, no, no...i had nothing to do with it!!!)

So, Albert Einstein goes on with (trying to wipe the BLOOD off his
hands) in the same letter:

" My sole contribution in this field was that, in 1905, I established
the relationship between mass and energy,..."  (E=M  c^2)
http://img.timeinc.net/time/magazine/archive/covers/1946/1101460701_400.jpg

"...a truth about the physical world of a very general nature, whose
possible connection with the military potential was completely foreign
to my thoughts."



Yeah, in 1905 he wasn't thinking.."Hey, I can KILL all those fucking
Germans wit dis!!!!"

Come on, give me a break,,they call it finding a new application for
it.

Here below is the whole letter:
------------------------------------------------
On January 23, 1950, Einstein replied:1m I sense the sincerity and
seriousness of your intentions and well understand that you are making
certain suggestions to me in the light of your own views concerning
the development of atomic weapons and the present situation in the
world. You proceed, however, from false assumptions. 

I have never taken part in work of a military-technical nature and
have never done research having any bearing upon the production of the
atomic bomb. My sole contribution in this field was that, in 1905, I
established the relationship between mass and energy, a truth about
the physical world of a very general nature, whose possible connection
with the military potential was completely foreign to my thoughts. My
only contribution with respect to the atomic bomb was that, in 1939, I
signed a letter to President Roosevelt in which I called attention to
the existing possibility of producing such a bomb and to the danger
that the Germans might make use of that possibility. I considered this
my duty because there were definite indications that the Germans were
working on such a project. 

It would, therefore, be quite ridiculous if I were to issue a
statement declaring my refusal to participate in armament work. Since
the military authorities are well aware of my position, it would never
occur to them to invite me to participate in such work.
 Concerning the political situation, I do not believe your   
I do not believe your proposal that the United States refrain from
experimenting with the production of hydrogen bombs touches the core
of the problem. The fact of the matter is that the people who possess
the real power in this country have no intention of ending the cold
war. The ruling group in this country has as little sought to avoid a
conflict with the Soviet Union as the Russian ruling group has tried
to avert such a conflict with the United States. Both groups are
exploiting that conflict for their own internal political purposes, in
complete disregard of the possible consequences. This development
began immediately after Roosevelt's death. The men in power succeeded
in deceiving, intimidating and  
fanaticizing the public. I do not see how that tiny group of people,
who do know about all these circumstances, could possibly stop the
disastrous course of events, especially in view of the fact that even
the so-called "neutral" nations do not unite to co-operate for the
protection of peace on a supranational basis.

I myself have never hesitated to express my opinions freely; I have
considered it my duty to do so. However, the voice of an individual is
powerless against the shouting of the masses—this has always been so. 
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------






.


On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
>
>https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%2023&f=false
>
>
>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
>in the 1940's
>
>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
>
>
>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
>
>
> Einstein Lied Again
>
>
>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
>
>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
>
>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????
>
> 
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#843753

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-02-01 11:52 -0800
Message-ID<gs1jvgt4jltatejco3vrlo1dspj6ipk5dl@4ax.com>
In reply to#842074
On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
>
>https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%2023&f=false
>
>
>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
>in the 1940's
>
>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
>
>
>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
>
>
> Einstein Lied Again
>
>
>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
>
>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
>
>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????

Well, for years the Military had a hard time blowing up a Japanese
ship! Their missiles simply didn't work.

For a couple of years they couldn't even hit a Japanese ship!

They needed help. Where could they find a bomb expert????

Now, ...shoot back a few years in history then and the
other Military had a problem...

"2.17. Of course, the proof that a chain reaction is possible does not
itself insure that nuclear energy can be effective in a bomb. To have
an effective explosion it is necessary that the chain reaction build
up extremely rapidly; otherwise only a small amount of the nuclear
energy will be utilized before the bomb flies apart and the reaction
stops. It is also necessary that no premature explosion occur. This
entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the most
difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."


Albert Einstein wrote:

"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
you were visiting me
it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
to explosion
a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
would like to submit to you for your judgement.
S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
S.
The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
when
the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic
influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
the
nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
is
now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
to
the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
goes
again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein 


 

"This entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the
most difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."


I guess word of mouth got around that Albert Einstein can
solve their ..."detonation" problem.
















--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#844846

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-02-09 22:30 -0800
Message-ID<mhb90hluf0dedpfqh1av599qf242uusa0j@4ax.com>
In reply to#843753
Oh, i forgot to mention that Albert Einstein
got paid $25.00 a day to help the military
with their denotation missile explosion problem..

He worked for the "High Explosive Division" at
the military...
Why do you suppose the military thought Albert
Einstein could help them in that department?

Does Albert Einstein have and experience in the past
having to do with missile explosions or ant
High Explosives...some sort of bomb maybe?

But, BIG! HIGH!! EXPLOSIVE!!!

wat comes to mind?


"extremely powerful bombs of a new type"????

"This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,

and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely
powerful
 bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this

type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy

the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
However,

such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by

air." --Albert Einstein

https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first





On Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:52:28 -0800, The Starmaker
<starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

>On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
>
>>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
>>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
>>
>>https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%2023&f=false
>>
>>
>>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
>>in the 1940's
>>
>>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
>>
>>
>>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
>>
>>
>> Einstein Lied Again
>>
>>
>>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
>>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
>>
>>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
>>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
>>
>>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
>>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????
>
>Well, for years the Military had a hard time blowing up a Japanese
>ship! Their missiles simply didn't work.
>
>For a couple of years they couldn't even hit a Japanese ship!
>
>They needed help. Where could they find a bomb expert????
>
>Now, ...shoot back a few years in history then and the
>other Military had a problem...
>
>"2.17. Of course, the proof that a chain reaction is possible does not
>itself insure that nuclear energy can be effective in a bomb. To have
>an effective explosion it is necessary that the chain reaction build
>up extremely rapidly; otherwise only a small amount of the nuclear
>energy will be utilized before the bomb flies apart and the reaction
>stops. It is also necessary that no premature explosion occur. This
>entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the most
>difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
>
>
>Albert Einstein wrote:
>
>"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
>you were visiting me
>it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
>to explosion
>a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
>I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
>would like to submit to you for your judgement.
>S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
>vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
>serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
>S.
>The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
>by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
>when
>the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic
>influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
>vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
>enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
>When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
>the
>nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
>magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
>is
>now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
>to
>the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
>the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
>again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
>explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
>contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
>goes
>again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein 
>
>
> 
>
>"This entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the
>most difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
>
>
>I guess word of mouth got around that Albert Einstein can
>solve their ..."detonation" problem.
--
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#844924

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-02-10 10:45 -0800
Message-ID<62055D39.4C5D@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#844846
Here is a photo of Albert Einstein working with Lt. Stephen Brunauer who was in charge
of the "High Explosives Division".  

https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1491839255168966666/photo/1

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLQTpWXUYAMP8cm?format=jpg&name=4096x4096


Albert Einstein never had any problem getting 'security clearances' ...


But, if they ask me to kill Japs and Krauts, I would ask for more than $25.00 a day.




"it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
to explosion a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose." --Albert Einstein in a letter to Lt. Stephen Brunauer






The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Oh, i forgot to mention that Albert Einstein
> got paid $25.00 a day to help the military
> with their denotation missile explosion problem..
> 
> He worked for the "High Explosive Division" at
> the military...
> Why do you suppose the military thought Albert
> Einstein could help them in that department?
> 
> Does Albert Einstein have and experience in the past
> having to do with missile explosions or ant
> High Explosives...some sort of bomb maybe?
> 
> But, BIG! HIGH!! EXPLOSIVE!!!
> 
> wat comes to mind?
> 
> "extremely powerful bombs of a new type"????
> 
> "This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,
> 
> and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely
> powerful
>  bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this
> 
> type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
> 
> the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
> However,
> 
> such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by
> 
> air." --Albert Einstein
> 
> https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> 
> On Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:52:28 -0800, The Starmaker
> <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> 
> >On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
> ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> >>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
> >>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
> >>
>   https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%2023&f=fal
> >>
> >>
> >>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
> >>in the 1940's
> >>
> >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
> >>
> >>
> >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
> >>
> >>
> >> Einstein Lied Again
> >>
> >>
> >>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
> >>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
> >>
> >>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
> >>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
> >>
> >>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
> >>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????
> >
> >Well, for years the Military had a hard time blowing up a Japanese
> >ship! Their missiles simply didn't work.
> >
> >For a couple of years they couldn't even hit a Japanese ship!
> >
> >They needed help. Where could they find a bomb expert????
> >
> >Now, ...shoot back a few years in history then and the
> >other Military had a problem...
> >
> >"2.17. Of course, the proof that a chain reaction is possible does not
> >itself insure that nuclear energy can be effective in a bomb. To have
> >an effective explosion it is necessary that the chain reaction build
> >up extremely rapidly; otherwise only a small amount of the nuclear
> >energy will be utilized before the bomb flies apart and the reaction
> >stops. It is also necessary that no premature explosion occur. This
> >entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the most
> >difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> >
> >
> >Albert Einstein wrote:
> >
> >"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
> >you were visiting me
> >it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> >to explosion
> >a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> >I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
> >would like to submit to you for your judgement.
> >S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
> >vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
> >serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
> >S.
> >The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
> >by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
> >when
> >the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic
> >influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
> >vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
> >enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
> >When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
> >the
> >nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
> >magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
> >is
> >now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
> >to
> >the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
> >the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
> >again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
> >explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
> >contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
> >goes
> >again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >"This entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the
> >most difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> >
> >
> >I guess word of mouth got around that Albert Einstein can
> >solve their ..."detonation" problem.
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#844959

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-02-10 21:22 -0800
Message-ID<6205F296.414C@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#844924
Here is what Lt. Stephen Brunauer had to say...


"Einstein's security clearance was ob-
tained very quickly, and the contract was
signed on May 31. Soon after that, I made
my second trip to Einstein, taking to him
for consideration one of the toughest
problems that puzzled us at that time. The
problem was whether the detonation of a
torpedo should be initiated in the front or
in the rear. The three most important
characteristics of the shock wave pro-
duced in a detonation are the peak pres-
sure, the impulse or momentum of the
shock wave, which includes the duration
of the shock, and the energy released in
the explosion. If in a torpedo the detona-
tion of the high explosive is initiated at
the forward end, one obtains the highest
peak pressure. If the detonation is ini-
tiated in the rear end, one obtains the
highest momentum. The energy de-
veloped is the same, regardless where the
explosion is initiated. So the ques-
tion was which of the three main char-
acteristics causes the most damage. If it
is the peak pressure, the explosion should
be initiated at the front end of the tor-
pedo; if it is momentum, it should be
initiated at the rear end, and if it is the
energy, the location of the initiation does
not make any difference.
Einstein was thinking about the prob-
lem for about ten minutes, and finally
chose momentum and gave the reasons.
But a few days later I received a letter
from him telling me that he gave much
further thought to the matter, and changed
his conclusion. He decided that the
energy developed in the explosion was
the most important factor, and gave his
reasons. Very expensive experiments
performed much later showed that he was
right. Of course this subject was highly
confidential during the war, but I hope
that now--thirty-five years later-it
is declassified."  --Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Here is a photo of Albert Einstein working with Lt. Stephen Brunauer who was in charge
> of the "High Explosives Division".
> 
> https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1491839255168966666/photo/1
> 
> https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLQTpWXUYAMP8cm?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> 
> Albert Einstein never had any problem getting 'security clearances' ...
> 
> But, if they ask me to kill Japs and Krauts, I would ask for more than $25.00 a day.
> 
> "it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> to explosion a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose." --Albert Einstein in a letter to Lt. Stephen Brunauer
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Oh, i forgot to mention that Albert Einstein
> > got paid $25.00 a day to help the military
> > with their denotation missile explosion problem..
> >
> > He worked for the "High Explosive Division" at
> > the military...
> > Why do you suppose the military thought Albert
> > Einstein could help them in that department?
> >
> > Does Albert Einstein have and experience in the past
> > having to do with missile explosions or ant
> > High Explosives...some sort of bomb maybe?
> >
> > But, BIG! HIGH!! EXPLOSIVE!!!
> >
> > wat comes to mind?
> >
> > "extremely powerful bombs of a new type"????
> >
> > "This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,
> >
> > and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely
> > powerful
> >  bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this
> >
> > type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
> >
> > the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
> > However,
> >
> > such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by
> >
> > air." --Albert Einstein
> >
> > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> >
> > On Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:52:28 -0800, The Starmaker
> > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> >
> > >On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
> > ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > >>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
> > >>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
> > >>
>     https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%2023&f
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
> > >>in the 1940's
> > >>
> > >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> Einstein Lied Again
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
> > >>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
> > >>
> > >>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
> > >>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
> > >>
> > >>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
> > >>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????
> > >
> > >Well, for years the Military had a hard time blowing up a Japanese
> > >ship! Their missiles simply didn't work.
> > >
> > >For a couple of years they couldn't even hit a Japanese ship!
> > >
> > >They needed help. Where could they find a bomb expert????
> > >
> > >Now, ...shoot back a few years in history then and the
> > >other Military had a problem...
> > >
> > >"2.17. Of course, the proof that a chain reaction is possible does not
> > >itself insure that nuclear energy can be effective in a bomb. To have
> > >an effective explosion it is necessary that the chain reaction build
> > >up extremely rapidly; otherwise only a small amount of the nuclear
> > >energy will be utilized before the bomb flies apart and the reaction
> > >stops. It is also necessary that no premature explosion occur. This
> > >entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the most
> > >difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> > >
> > >
> > >Albert Einstein wrote:
> > >
> > >"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
> > >you were visiting me
> > >it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> > >to explosion
> > >a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> > >I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
> > >would like to submit to you for your judgement.
> > >S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
> > >vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
> > >serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
> > >S.
> > >The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
> > >by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
> > >when
> > >the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic
> > >influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
> > >vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
> > >enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
> > >When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
> > >the
> > >nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
> > >magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
> > >is
> > >now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
> > >to
> > >the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
> > >the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
> > >again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
> > >explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
> > >contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
> > >goes
> > >again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >"This entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the
> > >most difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> > >
> > >
> > >I guess word of mouth got around that Albert Einstein can
> > >solve their ..."detonation" problem.
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#844999

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-02-11 13:42 -0800
Message-ID<6206D828.32BE@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#844959
So, ...Albert Einstein continued on with developing
New and More effective High Explosives for the
Navy, AND the Army, AND the Air Force...that were used
in the war against Germany and Japan, the
Korean war and the Vietnam war.



The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> Here is what Lt. Stephen Brunauer had to say...
> 
> "Einstein's security clearance was ob-
> tained very quickly, and the contract was
> signed on May 31. Soon after that, I made
> my second trip to Einstein, taking to him
> for consideration one of the toughest
> problems that puzzled us at that time. The
> problem was whether the detonation of a
> torpedo should be initiated in the front or
> in the rear. The three most important
> characteristics of the shock wave pro-
> duced in a detonation are the peak pres-
> sure, the impulse or momentum of the
> shock wave, which includes the duration
> of the shock, and the energy released in
> the explosion. If in a torpedo the detona-
> tion of the high explosive is initiated at
> the forward end, one obtains the highest
> peak pressure. If the detonation is ini-
> tiated in the rear end, one obtains the
> highest momentum. The energy de-
> veloped is the same, regardless where the
> explosion is initiated. So the ques-
> tion was which of the three main char-
> acteristics causes the most damage. If it
> is the peak pressure, the explosion should
> be initiated at the front end of the tor-
> pedo; if it is momentum, it should be
> initiated at the rear end, and if it is the
> energy, the location of the initiation does
> not make any difference.
> Einstein was thinking about the prob-
> lem for about ten minutes, and finally
> chose momentum and gave the reasons.
> But a few days later I received a letter
> from him telling me that he gave much
> further thought to the matter, and changed
> his conclusion. He decided that the
> energy developed in the explosion was
> the most important factor, and gave his
> reasons. Very expensive experiments
> performed much later showed that he was
> right. Of course this subject was highly
> confidential during the war, but I hope
> that now--thirty-five years later-it
> is declassified."  --Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Here is a photo of Albert Einstein working with Lt. Stephen Brunauer who was in charge
> > of the "High Explosives Division".
> >
> > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1491839255168966666/photo/1
> >
> > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLQTpWXUYAMP8cm?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> >
> > Albert Einstein never had any problem getting 'security clearances' ...
> >
> > But, if they ask me to kill Japs and Krauts, I would ask for more than $25.00 a day.
> >
> > "it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> > to explosion a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> > I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose." --Albert Einstein in a letter to Lt. Stephen Brunauer
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Oh, i forgot to mention that Albert Einstein
> > > got paid $25.00 a day to help the military
> > > with their denotation missile explosion problem..
> > >
> > > He worked for the "High Explosive Division" at
> > > the military...
> > > Why do you suppose the military thought Albert
> > > Einstein could help them in that department?
> > >
> > > Does Albert Einstein have and experience in the past
> > > having to do with missile explosions or ant
> > > High Explosives...some sort of bomb maybe?
> > >
> > > But, BIG! HIGH!! EXPLOSIVE!!!
> > >
> > > wat comes to mind?
> > >
> > > "extremely powerful bombs of a new type"????
> > >
> > > "This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,
> > >
> > > and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely
> > > powerful
> > >  bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this
> > >
> > > type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
> > >
> > > the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
> > > However,
> > >
> > > such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by
> > >
> > > air." --Albert Einstein
> > >
> > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > >
> > > On Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:52:28 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
> > > >>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
> > > >>
>       https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20january%
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
> > > >>in the 1940's
> > > >>
> > > >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >> Einstein Lied Again
> > > >>
> > > >>
> > > >>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
> > > >>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
> > > >>
> > > >>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
> > > >>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
> > > >>
> > > >>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
> > > >>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????
> > > >
> > > >Well, for years the Military had a hard time blowing up a Japanese
> > > >ship! Their missiles simply didn't work.
> > > >
> > > >For a couple of years they couldn't even hit a Japanese ship!
> > > >
> > > >They needed help. Where could they find a bomb expert????
> > > >
> > > >Now, ...shoot back a few years in history then and the
> > > >other Military had a problem...
> > > >
> > > >"2.17. Of course, the proof that a chain reaction is possible does not
> > > >itself insure that nuclear energy can be effective in a bomb. To have
> > > >an effective explosion it is necessary that the chain reaction build
> > > >up extremely rapidly; otherwise only a small amount of the nuclear
> > > >energy will be utilized before the bomb flies apart and the reaction
> > > >stops. It is also necessary that no premature explosion occur. This
> > > >entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the most
> > > >difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >Albert Einstein wrote:
> > > >
> > > >"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
> > > >you were visiting me
> > > >it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> > > >to explosion
> > > >a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> > > >I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
> > > >would like to submit to you for your judgement.
> > > >S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
> > > >vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
> > > >serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
> > > >S.
> > > >The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
> > > >by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
> > > >when
> > > >the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic
> > > >influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
> > > >vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
> > > >enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
> > > >When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
> > > >the
> > > >nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
> > > >magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
> > > >is
> > > >now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
> > > >to
> > > >the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
> > > >the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
> > > >again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
> > > >explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
> > > >contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
> > > >goes
> > > >again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >"This entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the
> > > >most difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >I guess word of mouth got around that Albert Einstein can
> > > >solve their ..."detonation" problem.
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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#845024

FromThe Starmaker <starmaker@ix.netcom.com>
Date2022-02-11 15:07 -0800
Message-ID<6206EC21.72EA@ix.netcom.com>
In reply to#844999
Yet, On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
part in work of a military-technical nature...


Einstein Lied Again!



Einstein knew that all his information would be
classfied and confidental...


so why not lie?



You cannot even talk about it if it is CLASSIFIED!


Albert Einstein fuckin LIED!


He lied to everybody!


Then he sticks his tongue out at you....


(because he thinks you are all a bunch of lizards...)


https://petapixel.com/assets/uploads/2017/07/einsteintongue.jpg


 







 


The Starmaker wrote:
> 
> So, ...Albert Einstein continued on with developing
> New and More effective High Explosives for the
> Navy, AND the Army, AND the Air Force...that were used
> in the war against Germany and Japan, the
> Korean war and the Vietnam war.
> 
> The Starmaker wrote:
> >
> > Here is what Lt. Stephen Brunauer had to say...
> >
> > "Einstein's security clearance was ob-
> > tained very quickly, and the contract was
> > signed on May 31. Soon after that, I made
> > my second trip to Einstein, taking to him
> > for consideration one of the toughest
> > problems that puzzled us at that time. The
> > problem was whether the detonation of a
> > torpedo should be initiated in the front or
> > in the rear. The three most important
> > characteristics of the shock wave pro-
> > duced in a detonation are the peak pres-
> > sure, the impulse or momentum of the
> > shock wave, which includes the duration
> > of the shock, and the energy released in
> > the explosion. If in a torpedo the detona-
> > tion of the high explosive is initiated at
> > the forward end, one obtains the highest
> > peak pressure. If the detonation is ini-
> > tiated in the rear end, one obtains the
> > highest momentum. The energy de-
> > veloped is the same, regardless where the
> > explosion is initiated. So the ques-
> > tion was which of the three main char-
> > acteristics causes the most damage. If it
> > is the peak pressure, the explosion should
> > be initiated at the front end of the tor-
> > pedo; if it is momentum, it should be
> > initiated at the rear end, and if it is the
> > energy, the location of the initiation does
> > not make any difference.
> > Einstein was thinking about the prob-
> > lem for about ten minutes, and finally
> > chose momentum and gave the reasons.
> > But a few days later I received a letter
> > from him telling me that he gave much
> > further thought to the matter, and changed
> > his conclusion. He decided that the
> > energy developed in the explosion was
> > the most important factor, and gave his
> > reasons. Very expensive experiments
> > performed much later showed that he was
> > right. Of course this subject was highly
> > confidential during the war, but I hope
> > that now--thirty-five years later-it
> > is declassified."  --Lt. Stephen Brunauer, head of the High Explosives Division
> >
> > The Starmaker wrote:
> > >
> > > Here is a photo of Albert Einstein working with Lt. Stephen Brunauer who was in charge
> > > of the "High Explosives Division".
> > >
> > > https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1491839255168966666/photo/1
> > >
> > > https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FLQTpWXUYAMP8cm?format=jpg&name=4096x4096
> > >
> > > Albert Einstein never had any problem getting 'security clearances' ...
> > >
> > > But, if they ask me to kill Japs and Krauts, I would ask for more than $25.00 a day.
> > >
> > > "it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> > > to explosion a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> > > I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose." --Albert Einstein in a letter to Lt. Stephen Brunauer
> > >
> > > The Starmaker wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Oh, i forgot to mention that Albert Einstein
> > > > got paid $25.00 a day to help the military
> > > > with their denotation missile explosion problem..
> > > >
> > > > He worked for the "High Explosive Division" at
> > > > the military...
> > > > Why do you suppose the military thought Albert
> > > > Einstein could help them in that department?
> > > >
> > > > Does Albert Einstein have and experience in the past
> > > > having to do with missile explosions or ant
> > > > High Explosives...some sort of bomb maybe?
> > > >
> > > > But, BIG! HIGH!! EXPLOSIVE!!!
> > > >
> > > > wat comes to mind?
> > > >
> > > > "extremely powerful bombs of a new type"????
> > > >
> > > > "This new phenomenon would also lead to the construction of bombs,
> > > >
> > > > and it is conceivable - though much less certain - that extremely
> > > > powerful
> > > >  bombs of a new type may thus be constructed. A single bomb of this
> > > >
> > > > type, carried by boat and exploded in a port, might very well destroy
> > > >
> > > > the whole port together with some of the surrounding territory.
> > > > However,
> > > >
> > > > such bombs might very well prove to be too heavy for transportation by
> > > >
> > > > air." --Albert Einstein
> > > >
> > > > https://hypertextbook.com/eworld/einstein/#first
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 01 Feb 2022 11:52:28 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > > <starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > >On Mon, 17 Jan 2022 23:39:19 -0800, The Starmaker
> > > > ><starmaker@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >>On January 23, 1950, Einstein wrote in a letter..   I have never taken
> > > > >>part in work of a military-technical nature and have never done ...
> > > > >>
>         https://books.google.com/books?id=MxokDwAAQBAJ&newbks=0&printsec=frontcover&pg=PT755&dq=%22einstein+on+peace%22+%2B%22military-technical%22+january+23&hl=en#v=onepage&q=%22einstein%20on%20peace%22%20%2B%22military-technical%22%20
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>But here he is writing of military-technical nature bombs ideas
> > > > >>in the 1940's
> > > > >>
> > > > >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432129448841674752/photo/1
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>https://twitter.com/Starmaker111/status/1432121477193613312/photo/1
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >> Einstein Lied Again
> > > > >>
> > > > >>
> > > > >>I understand he doesn't want anybody to know...but it seems
> > > > >>everybody doesn't want everybody to know.
> > > > >>
> > > > >>So Albert Einstein was busy in the 1940's designing bomb ideas to
> > > > >>detonate and destroy ships for the military...
> > > > >>
> > > > >>But, but, where did the military get the idea all of a sudden that
> > > > >>Albert Einstein was a Detonation Bomb Expert????
> > > > >
> > > > >Well, for years the Military had a hard time blowing up a Japanese
> > > > >ship! Their missiles simply didn't work.
> > > > >
> > > > >For a couple of years they couldn't even hit a Japanese ship!
> > > > >
> > > > >They needed help. Where could they find a bomb expert????
> > > > >
> > > > >Now, ...shoot back a few years in history then and the
> > > > >other Military had a problem...
> > > > >
> > > > >"2.17. Of course, the proof that a chain reaction is possible does not
> > > > >itself insure that nuclear energy can be effective in a bomb. To have
> > > > >an effective explosion it is necessary that the chain reaction build
> > > > >up extremely rapidly; otherwise only a small amount of the nuclear
> > > > >energy will be utilized before the bomb flies apart and the reaction
> > > > >stops. It is also necessary that no premature explosion occur. This
> > > > >entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the most
> > > > >difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >Albert Einstein wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >"According to these discussions and a remark you made yourself when
> > > > >you were visiting me
> > > > >it seems to be desirable to have a device which automatically brings
> > > > >to explosion
> > > > >a torpedo passing below a ship at the right moment.
> > > > >I have an idea for an electro-magnetic device for this purpose which I
> > > > >would like to submit to you for your judgement.
> > > > >S is an electro-magnet producing an alternating magnetic field with
> > > > >vertical axis. s and s' are two coils with vertical axis connected in
> > > > >serie with opposite magnetic axis, which are located symmetrically to
> > > > >S.
> > > > >The current created by induction in those two coils may be multiplied
> > > > >by tubes (current i). The device is set in function only at a moment
> > > > >when
> > > > >the torpedo is far enough from the emitting ship to avoid the magnetic
> > > > >influence of the latter. As long as the torpedo is on the way i will
> > > > >vanish for reasons of symmetry. The torpedo is supposed to travel deep
> > > > >enough so that it will not hit the target directly but pass below it.
> > > > >When the torpedo approaches the target there will be created through
> > > > >the
> > > > >nearby parts of the ship's hull an additional (induced) alternative
> > > > >magnetic field which at first will be stronger in s than in s'. There
> > > > >is
> > > > >now created a current i the intensity of which will change according
> > > > >to
> > > > >the following diagrams L ' U PV... M corresponds to the moment when
> > > > >the torpedo passes under the middle of the ship. At this moment i will
> > > > >again vanish for reasons of symmetry. This is the moment to put the
> > > > >explosion into action. It will be easy to construct an electrical
> > > > >contact device which functions if a current is first initiated and
> > > > >goes
> > > > >again to zero afterwards. " -Albert Einstein
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >"This entire "detonation" problem was and still remains one of the
> > > > >most difficult problems in designing a high-efficiency atomic bomb."
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >I guess word of mouth got around that Albert Einstein can
> > > > >solve their ..."detonation" problem.
> > > > --
> > > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, and challenge
> > > >  the unchallengeable.
> > >
> > > --
> > > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> > >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> > >  the unchallengeable.
> >
> > --
> > The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
> >  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
> >  the unchallengeable.
> 
> --
> The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
>  to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
>  the unchallengeable.

-- 
The Starmaker -- To question the unquestionable, ask the unaskable,
 to think the unthinkable, mention the unmentionable, say the unsayable, and challenge
 the unchallengeable.

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