Re: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning)

From	Physfitfreak <physfitfreak@gmail.com>
Newsgroups	sci.physics
Subject	Re: How ELIZA 2.0 killed Wolfram Alpha (Re: Knock, knock, who is it? Yi-Lightning)
Date	2025-02-04 15:15 -0600
Organization	Modern Human
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On 2/4/25 3:06 AM, Mild Shock wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> Because of the wide availability of Machine Learning
> via Python libraries , the whole world (at least China)
> has become a big Petri Dish that is experimenting with
> 
> new strategies to evolve brains on the computer.
> Recent discovery seems to be Group Preference Optimization.
> This is when you make the chat bot, detect and react
> 
> differently to different groups of people. It seems to
> work on the "policy level". I don't understand it yet
> completely. But chat bots can then evolve and use
> 
> multiple policies automatically:
> 
> Group Preference Optimization
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2310.11523
> 
> DeepSeekMath: Pushing the Limits
> https://arxiv.org/abs/2402.03300
> 
> Now it seems that it is also at the core of DeepSeekMath,
> what is possibly detected is not group of people, but
> mathematical topics, so that in the end it excells.
> 
> When unsupervised learning is used groups or math
> topics might be found from data, through a form of
> abduction.
> 
> Bye
> 
> Mild Shock schrieb:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Wait till USA figures out there is a second
>> competitor besides DeepSeek, its called Yi-Lightning:
>>
>> Yi-Lightning Technical Report
>> https://arxiv.org/abs/2412.01253
>>
>> It was already discussed 2 months ago:
>>
>> Eric Schmidt DROPS BOMBSHELL: China DOMINATES AI!
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddWuEUjo4u4
>>
>> Bye
>>
> 

Throwing papers at us (i.e. in usenet) although better than nothing, it 
still is an extremely inefficient way to communicate.

Speak, yourself, in the way that a first year undergraduate prof 
explains stuff to the students who just a few months earlier finished 
their high schooling.

Then you will communicate.

If it is too difficult to do that (cause requires deep understanding of 
the subject by yourself), or, if you don't get time doing all that, then 
break the job down into little pieces. A day at a time, or a week at a 
time.

You'd be spending the same amount of time as you are now, and yet you 
will actually communicate something with those with physics background.

Did I have to say this? I don't think so. But your intentions here are 
vague. But if you need support for your own gains in understanding the 
subject, you just have to do it the way I explained above. Then you will 
get that support. Not from Bozos and "engineers", but from me and 
anybody with actual physics background and such trainings.

There are a few actual physicists in relativity group that can join in, 
but only if you do it the way I explained above.

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