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- Ok, it is completed and tested now. The jet-engined form of Shahed 136 
suicide drone is named Shahed 238 and moves 600 km/hr !... Compare that 
to Shahed 136 which at fastest speed only reaches 180 km/hr.

The Chinese were also working on a similar design, I don't know if Iran 
beat them to it or there's just no news of the Chinese one.

Its warhead is more powerful than even the most powerful warhead choice 
on 136.

This is how Shahed 238 looks:

https://i.postimg.cc/527BfK3G/Shahed-238.jpg

136 has definitely been a successful design, selling well to many 
countries, including Russia. Cheap to make, inexpensive to sell, and 
able to loiter in the sky for a long time until a need arises for its 
use. But the 238 remains to be seen how expensive it is. If it's too 
expensive then it might not compete with 136 as far as selling them is 
concerned. But definitely it remains a more valuable weapon for Iranians 
themselves to use when necessary (they may have used it already in the 
drone operation inside Pakestan two days back cause the extent of damage 
seemed to be more than 136 could do.)

Up to speeds of 500 km/hr it can be controlled and led flawlessly, and 
from 500 to 600 km/hr controlling it becomes somewhat harder and it may 
lose accuracy. But for travelling the bulk of the distance to reach the 
target area of course it can be used at close to 600 km/hr, then from 
then it has to reduce speed to below 500 km/hr to hit target as 
accurately as it can.

The test of this was carried out last year but it didn't officially get 
revealed back then. I think they probably used it in Pakestan operation 
and became confident of its features working properly for the missions 
it is built for. I don't know, but I don't think it can loiter as long 
as 136 can; so it might specifically be the tool to use for targets 
decided in advance, before launching it.

- The Pakestani government, understandably, became upset about Iran's 
intrusion in its space and bombing the two terrorist bases. They almost 
immediately responded to it by carrying out a very similar operation on 
the Iran side of the border, bombing a small area with nobody but 
Pakestanis living in there, killing a bunch of them. The latter may have 
been carrying out terrorist attacks inside Pakestan but Iran has denied 
that.

Who knows, the whole deal may have been decided on both sides before 
even Iran's attack started.

But Iran _did_ warn Pakestanis, many times, about those two bases and 
the terrorism that they were constantly inflicting inside the 
Baluchestan areas of Iran. So this, at the worst, has not been that much 
of a surprise.

The fact is that between Iran and Pakestan (and Iran and Iraq, as well 
as Iran and Syria) there are important agreements regarding terrorist 
activities, and the operations needed to counter them. So nothing in 
fact was done by Iran illegally against Iraq and Pakestan and Syria in 
the past week.

- Iraqis are pissed, too, (they pretend so) that they were not told of 
the operations in north Iraq in advance. And Arabs too quickly put up a 
front saying they don't condone such operations. This points to an 
important piece of information :) Since exactly these same countries who 
are showing their dismay, are the ones who have maintained some degree 
of relations with the USA, this way of unanimously opposing such 
operation indicates that they do not wish to be punished by the USA. And 
this in turn reveals what's behind the scenes :) So what's the 
connection of this to some "USA" that these countries are worried about? 
The connection can only be one thing: _every_ single target that got hit 
was financed - and more - by the Americans to conduct terrorist 
operations inside Iran. That's why all these countries were fast to 
repudiate Iran's actions. These countries had no other choice but to 
show some phony objection to what Iran did.

Of all the countries there, only Yemen and Syria did not put up a phony 
rejection of the attacks, and these two are the ones who are actively in 
war with USA inside their own countries; they have no relations with USA 
to worry about losing them.

So how's that for responding to a terrorist attack inside Iran, led, 
financed, and helped in every possible way by Americans? 26 different 
targets were destroyed, in three countries, all set up by the USA. This 
is what I was trying to tell you in the last entry in this blog. The 
toll will be high, so repeat your stupid mistakes as you wish.

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