Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser

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On 01-Dec-25 2:27 am, JTEM wrote:
> On 11/30/25 1:48 AM, Sylvia Else wrote:
> 
>>> Okay, from THIS point of view, based on everything you have
>>> always been taught about physics, no information is traveling
>>> through time FOR THE PHOTONS. Only us. From our perspective
>>> it is, from the perspective of the photon it isn't.
> 
>> This doesn't even get close to the issue, since any paradoxes are seen 
>> in the measured outcomes, not the photons themselves.
> 
> No. Einstein said that time is relative. It's not the same everywhere
> for everyone and everything.
> 
> The retrocausality is real. The cause is following the effect. But
> only for us. Only because we have a very different perspective. But
> it's real. Our observations are correct. It is retrocausality.
> 
> But not for the photon. Everything is always happening at the same
> place, at the same time. For the photon. But not us.
> 
> 

Popular science media like to portray these experiments as having 
interference patterns present, or not present on screens, and arguing 
for retro causality.

In reality, no interference patterns appear on screens, inter-alia, 
because there are no screens.

The interference patterns are plots produced by analysing the recorded 
data, which can only be done after the data has been recorded.

Sylvia.
> 
>

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THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 00:20 -0500
  Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-11-30 14:48 +0800
    Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser ram@zedat.fu-berlin.de (Stefan Ram) - 2025-11-30 11:05 +0000
    Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-11-30 13:27 -0500
      Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> - 2025-12-01 23:18 +0800
        Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 11:31 -0500
        Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 17:36 -0600
          Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-01 21:04 -0500
            Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 08:22 -0600
              Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 14:11 -0500
                Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-02 15:58 -0600
                Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-03 00:06 -0500
                Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser Dawn Flood <Dawn.Belle.Flood@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 17:28 -0600
                Re: THE ONLY REAL counter to Delayed Choice Quantum Eraser JTEM <jtem01@gmail.com> - 2025-12-04 23:44 -0500

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