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Re: OK, .. Let's See :-)

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On 6/17/25 11:03 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
> On 6/17/25 9:28 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>> On 6/17/25 8:17 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>> On 6/17/25 5:27 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>> On 6/17/25 4:37 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>> On 6/17/25 1:30 PM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>> On 6/17/25 11:39 AM, Physfitfreak wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Day 5 of a long long war :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Israel has already begged Trump and anyone it has in the USA to 
>>>>>>> use U.S. military aggressively against Iran.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You know, I'm beginning to think Trump did this deliberately to 
>>>>>>> punish Israelis. He allows Israel to attack Iran aggressively, 
>>>>>>> that's for sure, and yet on the other hand he does not want to 
>>>>>>> enter the United States into a war with Iran, which will take out 
>>>>>>> all the Arab oil, Azerbayjan Republic's oil, all the U.S. 
>>>>>>> military bases in the middle east (perhaps even in Germany and 
>>>>>>> Japan), and at the end, you know what happens. Next U.S. 
>>>>>>> president picks up sorry American asses from the region and get 
>>>>>>> them back home, a la Afghanestan and Vietnam.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don't think Trump is that stupid. He wants to leave that office 
>>>>>>> in good terms with the Americans. So there is a distinct 
>>>>>>> possibility that he fooled Israelis into it. Now what remains is 
>>>>>>> that to what extent, what dollar figure, he can make Americans 
>>>>>>> pay for Israel's war. This is right now the key point he has to 
>>>>>>> come up with an answer for.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And to save face (with Israelis as well as Americans) he still 
>>>>>>> pretends he did that to force Iran into capitulation.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Conclusion: He wanted Israel pay the cost to inflict as much harm 
>>>>>>> as was possible on Iran because Iran is not a Bitch of USA. 
>>>>>>> Israel thus would be punished for being a criminal regime, and 
>>>>>>> Iran would get hurt cause Trump has always had a beef with Iran 
>>>>>>> for being independent of anything American related (even in 
>>>>>>> Shah's time!). All Nazis in the world, especially the Bitch ones, 
>>>>>>> have a beef with Iran. They want to prove Iran could not avoid 
>>>>>>> being Bitches of USA like themselves!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is what Trump has been doing in this matter.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still bombing each other on both sides, continuously. Israel 
>>>>>> losing hefty money fast, Iran losing chickenshit in every respect. 
>>>>>> Keep going boys :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel is looking everywhere to find where the location of 
>>>>>> Aljazira affiliate is that still is broadcasting the battle scenes 
>>>>>> inside Israel. They want to bomb them :) Hehe :)  Bad habits, this 
>>>>>> "bombing" thing. It'll sooner or later get you bombed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> One of Mossad's centers is hit and is burning. I don't think all 
>>>>>> those employees have the luxury to run into shelters every hour, 
>>>>>> so a bunch of them must be kissing Moses right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iran says this is the job on that Mossad center:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> https://streamable.com/poaxb4
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Evidently Iron Dome did its thing but 5 or so of the missiles 
>>>>>> still delivered the Babkas to them. Shin Bet is in that town close 
>>>>>> by also, but no word on that one getting hit.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iran's military (not Militia) announced they in turn have begun 
>>>>>> using their advanced weapons now and the effect of that will show 
>>>>>> by the next waves.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On the other hand, Pezeshkiyan hinted at something significant 
>>>>>> coming soon, delivering Iran's anger. I have no idea what he's 
>>>>>> talking about. He might as well recite poems. Hehe :) The guy's nuts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Militia says today they used a new missile for the first time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A lot of testing is being done using Israeli targets. What an 
>>>>>> opportunity Trump provided for Iranians' defenses to get better.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The new military-made missile that was launched today hit the 
>>>>>> target without being detected at all. This is from the horse's own 
>>>>>> mouth! An Israeli news source. They got aware of it only after the 
>>>>>> impact.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Pezeshkiyan probably meant these new ones used today by the 
>>>>>> Militia and the military both.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Trump says he wants Iran to capitulate :) Hahhahhhahh :-) I read 
>>>>>> that as, "Israel isn't punished enough yet and Iran isn't damaged 
>>>>>> enough yet so I'm letting Israel to continue this war without 
>>>>>> involving aggressive Americans participation in the war."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Being a Bitch of USA that Israel is really sucks, doesn't it :) 
>>>>>> Nazis have no choices in their lives. The Fuhrer decides their 
>>>>>> life and death. And the Nazis march nicely into it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The Russian news source Sputnik confirmed the destruction of the 
>>>>>> Mossad building, saying it is still on fire. This piece of news 
>>>>>> was not referenced to some other news sources, but was verified 
>>>>>> independently by Sputnik's own crew in Israel. They showed a clip 
>>>>>> of it burning also.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Some have begun to say probability of Iran unveiling and testing 
>>>>>> nuclear weapons exists and could be soon. Could be this is what 
>>>>>> was in Pezeshkiyan's mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Iran today published the video of hitting one of the F-35s that 
>>>>>> was downed.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A new wave just launched. They say (because 5th column has already 
>>>>>> reported everything about them) these are for Dimona. Nice :)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The newly appointed top Iranian military commander (the earlier 
>>>>>> one was killed last Friday) today asked Israelis to leave their 
>>>>>> country as things will get much worse in no time.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Funny this guy himself is of Jewish background (his last name is 
>>>>>> Musavi) :-) Looks like Jews too. Sometime in that family's past, 
>>>>>> they were all Jewish. Iran has a lot of such people, hence the 5th 
>>>>>> column Israel is enjoying right now.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He told Israelis, "Do not sacrifice yourselves for the animal 
>>>>>> instincts in Netanyahu."
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> New development:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel is caving in in just days. Their military is now saying 
>>>>>> that, "All their plans within the end of one week of war total 
>>>>>> will be carried out and they do not wish to continue the war 
>>>>>> beyond that."
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hahhahhahhahh :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It sunk in! In just 5 days it sunk in. Now they're begging Iran.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> See, this is Saddam incarnate.. When Iran kicked Saddam out of her 
>>>>>> borders after two years of bitter war, Saddam immediately asked 
>>>>>> for the end of war and all Arabs and every country in the world 
>>>>>> which all supported him in that war unanimously asked Iran to stop 
>>>>>> the war , and of course Saddam never got it until 6 long and 
>>>>>> eventful years later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Israel's war will not end in one week. I think not even in 1 or 2 
>>>>>> years. This is a generational matter, a new generation of people 
>>>>>> come in within about 10 years, and they're the ones who affect 
>>>>>> changes in such matters.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And there's a limit on the Americans side as well, cause they're 
>>>>>> the ones who'll be paying for it. My first estimate of length of 
>>>>>> this war (I mentioned it on Friday) was 12 years. Because I've 
>>>>>> noticed Americans sense of wanting to pay for wars drops very fast 
>>>>>> when the cost nears a trillion dollars. Israel's report of the 
>>>>>> cost was 300 million dollars per day, which makes if 109 billion 
>>>>>> dollars a year, so about 10 years of it will cost Americans beyond 
>>>>>> a trillion dollars.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And that's how long it takes for this war to end. And this doesn't 
>>>>>> say anything about the state of Nazi system in Israel when _Iran_ 
>>>>>> stops the war :-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Either that, or a similar story involving a war with the United 
>>>>>> States. Same thing. A war with United States takes at least 10 
>>>>>> years, and at the most 30 years for Iran to want to stop it. And 
>>>>>> at the end of it, things won't be that different for Iran, but 
>>>>>> very different for the Americans as far as that region is concerned.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Another F-35 was shut down around Esfahan today. Thus, so far one a 
>>>>> day. I think Israelis will have to adjust their daily loss of 
>>>>> dollars to include this reality as well. They will lose about one 
>>>>> F-35 a day, if not more later. Iran still maintains they're keeping 
>>>>> their best still unused.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Egypt and Jordan have already got affected by consequences of this 
>>>>> war because of the shut down (or missile hit - Israelis aren't 
>>>>> saying which) of the offshore Leviathan gas platforms. Both nations 
>>>>> were buying the gas and are dependent on it. In fact Egypt already 
>>>>> has got into problems in providing enough electric power.
>>>>>
>>>>> Trump has begun making empty threats again regarding Iran. A good 
>>>>> sign that Israel is losing the war despite all the nonsense they're 
>>>>> saying in the media.
>>>>>
>>>>> Experts in fact have estimated Israel has only 12 days to keep 
>>>>> using the air defense and after that goes out of ammunition.
>>>>>
>>>>> So Trump has to do something for Israelis. He is crazy enough to 
>>>>> order attacks on Iran, no questions there, but are Americans also 
>>>>> crazy enough to let him?
>>>>>
>>>>> My answer: Yes, Americans are crazy enough to do that.
>>>>>
>>>>> So now a chance has come up to actually go for the head of the 
>>>>> fish, not its Bitches.
>>>>>
>>>>> More on this later :)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Another F-35 was downed over Chaharmahal. 6th one I think.
>>>>
>>>> Israel still maintains they have the Iran's skies open for 
>>>> themselves or anyone else :)
>>>>
>>>> It is right now about 1 am in Israel and Tel Aviv is getting hit by 
>>>> Iranian missiles. Also Haifa. One hit also landed in Jerusalem.
>>>>
>>>> Israel keeps begging Trump to attack Iran. But.. that's not a poker 
>>>> type decision baby. It has consequences beyond the poker game.
>>>>
>>>> Sanity of this admin is right now in question. I love it how 
>>>> Americans think they can get away with anything, and then moments 
>>>> like this arrives.
>>>>
>>>> Oil price already jumped 5% more. Fill the gas tanks cause by 
>>>> tomorrow there might not be any more oil getting out of Persian Gulf.
>>>>
>>>> I think this admin has goofed up on anything it did. And now 
>>>> protests have hit the streets because of that, and may get worse. 
>>>> Trump's bullshit talk might be an attempt to distract Americans from 
>>>> all the domestic fuck ups.
>>>>
>>>> Could be that even if he attacks Iran, he could get away with it 
>>>> easy. The guy's a moron. Already by now, even if he does not attack 
>>>> Iran, he's fucked his reputation up so bad that nobody takes his 
>>>> words or his sanity itself for granted. Russians were saying today 
>>>> Putin has stopped giving a damn about what Trump blabbers anymore.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Hehe :) Trump is more deranged than I thought, guys.
>>>
>>> He now asks Iran to "Surrender".. Hahhahhahhahh :-) .. Surrender?.. 
>>> Surrender to whom? To a news agency or something? Hahhahhahhahhahhh 
>>> :-)) To Fox news? Hahhahahahhah :-) To a Hollywood star?
>>>
>>> Or, perhaps Iran should write a letter of surrender to a postal 
>>> address somewhere along Champs-Élysées avenue. Hehe :) What a loon 
>>> you fucked up people have as your president.
>>>
>>> Somebody tell him nobody is in Iran to "surrender" to, Bozo :-) Hehe 
>>> :) First send your troops in, then see what happens for, oh .. 10 or 
>>> 15 years, then see if Iran will surrender to what remains of them, or 
>>> will kick them out! That's more likely to happen, dude. Somebody tell 
>>> him that.
>>>
>>> He's seen too many movies I guess. In one, Moses did order the sea to 
>>> open up for him, and the sea opened up!
>>>
>>> I don't think there is an iota of trust left in people in what this 
>>> man says or "orders".
>>>
>>> What's going to happen is that others who have such access to him 
>>> will decide and will have him do what they want, and it is these 
>>> others who will decide to go into fighting with Iran or just keep 
>>> paying for Israel's war forever.
>>>
>>> I don't think Trump personally is capable of making decisions. He'll 
>>> be used for the rest of his term as a figure-head.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Instead of war with Iran, Trump posts about two new flag poles that 
>> will be installed on either sides of White House. And then he goes:
>>
>>     "These poles, they're the most magnificent poles, tall and strong, 
>> I bet BIDEN never had poles like this. The FAKE NEWS media and RADICAL 
>> LEFT DEMOCRATS will of course not give me credit — and that's okay — 
>> but the PEOPLE love me, they love me and the poles, very bigly!"
>>
>>
>> .. I'm not going to read this senile man's words anymore. I'll just 
>> see what really happens and that's it. So no wonder Musk after going 
>> in to take advantage of his ailing man, later wrapped up and fled 
>> after finding the man's a loon.
>>
>>
>> The most advanced militia's missile that was tested today proved 
>> itself working quite well. The clip shows 12 Iron Dome missiles were 
>> sent up to intercept it and practically none of them did slightest 
>> change of course toward the missile. It came down and hit the target 
>> exactly as if nothing was there that became aware of its path. If you 
>> won't believe me I can post the clip:
>>
>> https://streamable.com/h8z5d6
>>
>> You can easily count the defensive missiles launched for it. They were 
>> oblivious of its path all the way to the ground level.
>>
>> So this one passes the tests for striking American targets south of 
>> Persian Gulf and in other bases around Iran. They _will_ deliver their 
>> payload successfully, whatever deemed necessary to use.
>>
>> This is at least a source of comfort to some extent, against 
>> probability of an American aggressive intervention in the war between 
>> Israel and Iran. It was already announced recently that the American 
>> THAAD system cannot intercept it. But with Iron Dome totally 
>> ineffective against it, that claim now carries more weight.
>>
>>
>>
> 
> 
> Remember that THAAD missiles are $12 million each. This newest one that 
> Militia tested has cost the country 1/3rd of the cost of an American 
> anti-tank missile. So.. There's something there to reckon with.
> 
> In a conventional war, I don't think Americans have much chance of 
> quickly subduing Iran and then leave. That's pure bullshit. They either 
> themselves leave much earlier than they should without achieving 
> anything at all, which results war with Israel to continue after that 
> and take its course, plus Iran exacting some damage to American assets 
> in the region in response, or, Americans will get bugged down, this time 
> in a country much stronger than anything they have seen and messed with 
> for 80 years. Not much an outlook that's worth anything.
> 
> That leaves the idea of nuclear attack by Israelis or Americans. Trump 
> might be led to allow nukes be applied to large cities in Iran to subdue 
> Iranian resistance very fast. I strongly believe that the matter of 
> nukes has already been well planned and that there is an effective 
> balance of nukes at this point. I'm not talking about what Pakestan said 
> a couple of days back (which turned out to be either dubious in its 
> authenticity, or they were threatened by USA since to claim they never 
> said such a thing). I'm talking about strategic partners.
> 
> Iran does have Russia and China as strategic partners. This is for the 
> eventual future war with USA. And USA wishes to take Iran out of that 
> partnership by any excuse or way possible. So in a nuclear attack on 
> Iran, she  will not be alone, because that war would be part of a much 
> larger war with Russia and China. And I think this matter has been 
> extensively thought out already between Iran and Russia and China, and 
> planned and arranged and Iran is prepared for what would come.
> 
> So no nuclear attack either. No scenarios like Japan in which USA drops 
> two nukes and Iran "surrenders" a la Trump's dream talk. No. This will 
> not be the case.
> 
> And because a nuclear war is part of the coming world war, collaborators 
> of Israel who are actively participating in an escalated war with Iran 
> will also get equally nuked as Israel, and these are Germany and France 
> and Britain. All three, I believe, will get nuked by Russia, as they are 
> number one enemy of Russians, more than USA has ever been an enemy for 
> them.
> 
> So what's going to happen? I bet my boots that it won't be Trump, 
> personally, who'll decide that. Americans will decide that. And if 
> Americans were thinking they could subdue Iran and make her "surrender" 
> by any conventional means, they'd done that a 100 times already. I don't 
> think Americans are under such impressions. They don't have the money, 
> and their social structure is fast changing for the worse.
> 
> So I think what happens is that Americans (and their European Bitches) 
> will accept the fact that they have to keep paying for Israel's war in 
> the background; doing what they've been doing for ages. And right now, 
> in this situation that Israel has created, this is just what Iran wants 
> as well. Iran wants, and will be in this for long term to wear Israelis 
> and their supports off.
> 
> Israel will become less and less of a place to be living in. It's 
> already begun to show. It will get worse. And nothing will change for 
> Iran for the worse. Iran will only advance. This is what I think will 
> happen. Israelis fucked up.
> 
> Within just 12 days that Israelis' munitions run out, we'll see exactly 
> what happens :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 


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