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Subject Re: Some results about unit fractions
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WM <askasker48@gmail.com> writes:
(AKA Dr. Wolfgang Mückenheim or Mueckenheim who teaches "Geschichte des 
Unendlichen" at Hochschule Augsburg.)

Why do you keep removing the attribution?  Don't you want your students
to find these threads?

> Ben Bacarisse schrieb am Freitag, 14. April 2023 um 22:27:58 UTC+2:
>
>> Because one of WM's word games involves two meaning for "all" 
>
> Instead of words use mathematics.

I wish you would.

> Simply answer the question: Does 
> ∀n ∈ ℕ: 1/n - 1/(n+1) = 1/(n(n+1)) > 0
> enforce the function NUF(x), the number of unit fractions between 0
> and x, to increase from NUF(0) = 0 in steps of height 1?

No.

> Or does NUF(x) increase in a step of height ℵo?

No.  ℵo is not a "step height".  Instead of bad metaphors, use
mathematics:

  NUF(x) = 0  iff x in (-oo, 1]
  NUM(x) = ℵ₀ iff x in (0, 1]

No need for rhetorical words, just mathematics.  You will call it what
you like, but you /must/ avoid simply stating the facts as above because
the mathematical facts do not permit you to play your word games.

If you want to reclaim some integrity, ask someone to prove that NUF is
constant in (0,1] (or do it yourself if you think you are up to it) and
then come back and admit you should not have said

  "NUF(x), the Number of Unit Fractions between 0 and x, increases in
  (0,1] from 0 to ℵo."

It can't "increase" in that interval because it's constant.  It can't go
"from 0" in (0,1] because it is not zero at any point in (0,1].  You've
re-worded that nonsense now because you know that it was wrong, but an
honest person would admit that before trying a new game.

-- 
Ben.

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