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Re: Ahmed Mohamed

From Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca>
Newsgroups sci.electronics.repair, sci.electronics.misc, sci.electronics.components, sci.electronics.basics, aus.electronics
Subject Re: Ahmed Mohamed
Date 2015-09-27 13:33 -0400
Organization National Capital Freenet, Ottawa, Ontario, Canada
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On Sat, 26 Sep 2015, Oltimer wrote:

> On 26-Sep-15 6:41 AM, Seymore4Head wrote:
>> I assume everyone has heard of this kid and his clock.
>> http://truthuncensored.net/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/ahmed-mohamed-clock.jpg
>> 
>> The picture of the clock shows a 9V battery hookup but no battery.
>> That means the kid either had to plug the clock in or it does have
>> batteries that are not shown.
>> 
>> If we assume that there are no batteries, can this clock store it's
>> alarm time?  I say no, but I don't know.
>> 
>> If not, that means that the kid had to plug the clock in during class
>> and also program it to alarm.  The clock can not accidentally go off
>> without battery back up.  Right?
>> 
>
>
> I reckon his old man set him up knowing full well what would happen.
>
>
WHy cant' the kid just be a poser?

He follows the Make culture, doing anything, even pasting together 
circuitry sold to people so they don't have to solder, is "Making".
In the old days, the technology was cool, you weren't, you got picked on 
or beat up at high school.  But "Make" says it's all "cool", and nothing 
deserves criticism.

If you broaden something enough, anyone can participate, look at how the 
internet has gone.  It's like teaching amateur radio in elementary school, 
everyone gets a license, but few will actually pursue it to any extent 
beyond that classroom.

They had a soapbox derby here recently, I looked closer and saw that 
nobody was making the cars, there were some standard cars which the kids 
got to race.

In that context, some kid who opened up a commercial clock and 
transplanted it into another box is of course a "Maker", and wants the 
prestige the "Maker Movement" expects.  He certainly didn't expect to be 
told "that's not building a clock" let alone "it's a bomb".

The funny thing is, "Make" has been pushing this, and in their regular 
advertising email, they offered a selection of clocks from their store, 
including one made to look like a bomb.  That's the leadership, not doing 
something for the sake of doing something, but for the sake of adulation 
from others.  And apparently making clocks that look like bombs is 
acceptable in the "Maker World".

The dumb thing about this discussion is that while he's a rank beginner, 
the fact that he is young isn't some indicator of a conspiracy.

I was building things, or trying to, when I was 11.  I got my ham license 
when I was 12, and was playing with high voltage soon after (it was 1972, 
the tail end of the tube era).  I knew way more about electronics than 
anyone in high school.  Lots of people back then had similar experience, 
well lots if you look at people interested in hobby electronics or amateur 
radio or even professionals in electronics.  Few if you compare to the 
general population, there were a few interested in high school, we all 
knew who the other ones were.

   Michael

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Ahmed Mohamed Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2015-09-25 18:41 -0400
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed Cursitor Doom <curd@notformail.com> - 2015-09-25 23:53 +0000
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed "Tom Del Rosso" <fizzbintuesday@that-google-mail-domain.com> - 2015-10-14 16:08 -0400
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed BuckyBalls <"The Pres"@yahoo.com> - 2015-10-16 14:25 +0200
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-25 23:15 -0400
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2015-09-27 18:23 +0100
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed Oltimer <nup@nup.com> - 2015-09-26 19:08 +0800
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-09-27 13:33 -0400
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed Oltimer <nup@nup.com> - 2015-09-28 21:00 +0800
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed mjb@signal11.invalid (Mike) - 2015-09-28 15:14 +0100
        Re: Ahmed Mohamed keithr0 <user@account.invalid> - 2015-09-29 17:43 +1000
          Re: Ahmed Mohamed Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2015-09-29 12:32 -0400
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed N_Cook <diverse@tcp.co.uk> - 2015-09-26 16:23 +0100
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Don Bruder <dakidd@sonic.net> - 2015-09-26 09:07 -0700
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed amdx <nojunk@knology.net> - 2015-09-27 06:33 -0500
      Re: Ahmed Mohamed Oltimer <nup@nup.com> - 2015-09-27 22:18 +0800
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed colonel_hack@yahoo.com - 2015-09-28 10:26 -0700
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed "Ian Field" <gangprobing.alien@ntlworld.com> - 2015-10-25 19:34 +0000
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed Michael Black <et472@ncf.ca> - 2015-10-30 17:14 -0400
  Re: Ahmed Mohamed Seymore4Head <Seymore4Head@Hotmail.invalid> - 2015-11-01 22:05 -0500
    Re: Ahmed Mohamed news13 <newsthirteenspam-spam@woa.com.au> - 2015-11-02 11:52 +0000

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