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| Newsgroups | sci.electronics.misc |
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| Date | 2016-02-13 00:57 -0800 |
| References | <tUrj4.333$Mj5.5660@news.swbell.net>#1/1> |
| Message-ID | <196baff2-bf46-4e1c-991c-52e2a8632040@googlegroups.com> (permalink) |
| Subject | Re: PCB Prototype |
| From | abqink@gmail.com |
在 2000年1月25日星期二 UTC+8下午4:00:00,David Knaack(spam blocked email)写道: > Greetings, > > I recently had a PCB prototype made and I thought I would share the > experience, so that others might avoid the same mistakes. > > I shopped around for a while and was initially discouraged by the setup fees > boardhouses charge, which is typically $40 or more. I finally found a place > that charged a flat $21 fee per board (single sided 100x160mm FR-4, 1.5mm, > 1oz copper, with solder mask and component mark, $2.60 extra if over 500 > holes). They are Olimex, in Bulgaria (http://www.olimex.com/pcb.html). No > problem, I thought, US post office only changes about $5 for a letter to > Bulgaria, so it ought to be about the same coming back. > > I used CadSofts Eagle software to do my board design, which ended up being > about 1.5 x 2 cm. I duplicated the board so that I had 42 copies for output > and sent it off (actually Olimex duplicated the design for me, since the > free version of Eagle limits you to the board dimensions). > > After the board was finished, they emailed me and informed me that since the > text I had placed in my component mark to indicate which way was up (so they > would not mistakenly mirror it) was less than 12mils and had not come out, > so they had mistakenly mirrored it (apparently they did not notice that 'C1' > and 'U1' labels, which are visible, were mirrored too). No big deal, there > are only 3 parts on the board anyway, it just won't have a version number > and my email address. > > In the same email they inform me that TNT (the local postal service??) > refused to 'ship with freight collect to US ', so they had sent it UPS. A > few days later UPS shows up and wants $75.25 before they will give me the > package (which is a very large manila envelope filled with bubble wrap > around this little fiberglass board). > Fortunately I happened to have $75 I could pay them with, and was able to > get the package. > > Apparently the $75 was customs fees for getting this thing into the US. > This is truly an insane amount to charge for bringing 40 grams of fiberglass > costing $20 into the country. Anyone know if simply putting it in an > envelope with no packing material would avoid the fees? > > On examining the board, I found that the copper and solder mask was perfect. > The only problem is that the component mark for the single IC (which was > centered on the board and so was still in the right place) was on top of the > solder pads. > > The component mark for the parts in Eagles libraries includes little lines > where the pins will be, and so the pads all get covered in white component > mark ink (whatever that is). Fortunately, since the pads are tinned, it is > easy to scrape off, but cleaning 336 tiny SMD pads was not how I wanted to > spend my time. > > I've posted a question to the Eagle forum to see if I made a mistake on the > component mark, but I don't see how I could have gotten around it without > modifying the mark itself. > > So, I've spent $100 for a single 100x160 board. I'm fortunate that since it > contains multiple copies of my PCB the cost is distributed down to about $2 > each, or I'd never make my money back (they are part of a kit I am selling). > Over all I am satisfied with the board, although it cost me 5 times what I > was expecting to pay. If you can get around the customs fees in the US (its > not a problem if you are in Europe), and you make sure your stuff is clearly > marked so it doesn't get mirrored, Olimex really is a bargain, I give 'em a > thumbs up, hooray for no setup fees! > > The next step is to cut the little guys apart and try my hand at soldering > SSOP chips with a regular iron. :) > > DK > -- > It does not do to leave a live dragon out of your calculations, if you > live near him. -- J. R. R. Tolkein Jiangmen ABQ Electronic Material Co.,LTD was estimated in the year of 2006. specialized in the production of high-end photoimageable PCB ink. We passed the ISO9001 quality standard identification.and ISO14001. 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