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Re: Młodzi programiści i tajna policja

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Jacek Marcin Jaworski <jaworski1978@adres.pl> wrote:

> Czy młodsi programiści, jakich znacie, powstrzymują się od prowadzenia 
> prywatnych projektów programistycznych?

Nie wiem, nie gadam z programistami. Ja cały czas jakieś robię, bo dla 
mnie to zawsze było hobby, pasja. Nigdy się nie nudzę.

Inni traktują to po prostu jak zawód, zajęcie.

> 4. Mam małe rozeznanie w środowisku polskich programistów. Więc chcę 
> przeprowadzić "małe śledztwo" w Internetach. Obecnie moje podejrzenie 
> jest takie: Tajna policja zabrania młodym programistom prowadzenia 
> prywatnych projektów.

Na czym opierasz swoje podejrzenie?

> 4.2 Podawane ostatnio statystyki na temat programistów pokazują, że oni 
> gdzieś "znikają". Praktycznie nie ma programistów po 40. Nie podaje się 
> co się z nimi stało. Przecież informę studiowano na polibudach już w 
> latach 70-tych XXw. I zawsze był to oblegany kier. studiów. Więc biorąc 
> pod uwagę niż demograficzny od 1989r. starych programistów (PRL-owców) 
> powinno być więcej niż młodych.

Ci, których znałem, awansowali na stanowiska kierownicze i już nie 
programują, tylko zarządzają ludźmi i projektami.

Mam 38 lat i nie mam zamiaru rezygnować z programowania (nie lubię 
zarządzać, lubię programować). Przypomnij mi się za dwa lata, jak nie 
odpowiem to szukaj w dole z wapnem.

Na koniec wkleję fragment książki "Schizophrenia: A Very Short 
Introduction", który może rzucać światło na źródło podejrzeń dotyczących 
tajnej policji i sekretnego unicestwiania programistów po 40-ce.

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The patient is aware of the identity of the person in front of him, but, 
through the lack of an emotional response, feels that there is something 
fundamentally wrong. This person looks like my wife, but cannot really be 
her. But is this abnormal experience really sufficient to justify the 
extremely unlikely conclusion that the wife has been replaced by a double? 
There is some evidence from patients with brain lesions that such 
delusions only occur after a combination of impairments. First, there must 
be damage to visual systems concerned with face recognition, so that the 
patient is not quite so good at recognizing faces as before. Second, there 
must be damage to the right frontal cortex, an area that seems to be 
involved in preventing us from adopting extremely unlikely hypotheses.

This idea that abnormal experiences are sufficient to cause delusions can 
be tested by presenting normal people with abnormal experiences. We 
attempted to do this by distorting the sound of peoples voices. The 
volunteers were rigged up with a throat microphone and earphones. The 
speech recorded by the microphone was played into special-effects 
equipment where it could be distorted before being played back into the 
earphones. All this happened without any detectable delay, so that the 
volunteer heard their own voice at a different pitch. So, for example, a 
male speaker might hear his voice at a higher pitch, like the voice of a 
woman. We did this with patients during an acute episode of schizophrenia, 
asking them to speak while we altered the pitch of the voice in various 
ways. The comments they made were rather surprising.

A female voice doesnt sound like me. It only speaks when I speak. Sounds 
like the sounds a deaf person might make.
 
The voice has changed to a masculine voice. Same as a deaf masculine 
voice. I think its an evil spirit speaking when I speak.
 
Patients who were suffering from delusions at the time of the experiment 
were very likely to attribute the voice they heard to another person, but 
only when the voice was distorted. On the other hand, our healthy 
volunteers and patients not reporting delusions would correctly attribute 
the voice to themselves. Its my voice I can hear, but youve done something 
to it with that box.

This study shows that weird experiences are not enough. Only the patients 
who were concurrently experiencing delusions thought the voice they heard 
belonged to someone else.

Many of the delusions reported by patients with schizophrenia seem to 
result from a combination of an abnormal experience with a willingness to 
develop extremely unlikely explanations for that experience.

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