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| Started by | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| First post | 2026-01-13 00:31 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-01-13 11:59 -0500 |
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WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-13 00:31 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-12 20:22 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 18:18 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 08:02 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-13 11:17 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-13 14:21 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-13 11:24 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-01-13 07:18 +0100
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-12 22:23 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-01-13 07:53 +0100
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-13 01:05 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 06:16 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-01-13 13:58 +0100
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 08:06 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-13 12:13 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-14 17:49 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-14 13:06 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-14 10:15 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-14 23:27 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-14 19:03 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Chris <ithinkiam@gmail.com> - 2026-01-15 20:11 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:22 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-14 16:04 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-15 00:29 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-15 03:17 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-14 19:29 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-15 13:18 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-15 13:18 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-15 16:22 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-15 19:37 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:36 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-16 01:14 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-16 23:01 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-17 16:32 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-17 17:19 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-17 12:20 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-18 00:38 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:29 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-15 22:34 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 18:09 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 18:55 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 16:03 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 19:04 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 19:13 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 14:57 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-16 01:20 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-15 19:35 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:45 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 14:59 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:14 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 15:01 -0800
The real reason Arlen changes nyms (was Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 15:02 -0800
The real reason Arlen changes nyms (was Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 15:04 -0800
Re: The real reason Arlen changes nyms (was Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-15 23:23 +0000
Re: The real reason Arlen changes nyms (was Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jörg Lorenz <hugybear@gmx.net> - 2026-01-16 11:32 +0100
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:02 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-15 19:32 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 15:56 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-16 01:16 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-15 22:49 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-15 18:14 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> - 2026-01-16 01:18 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-16 02:25 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> - 2026-01-15 19:12 -0800
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-13 11:38 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 11:59 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-13 12:15 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-13 14:09 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> - 2026-01-13 09:10 -0500
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Tyrone <none@none.none> - 2026-01-13 14:17 +0000
Re: WHY does the Sun rise in the West? Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> - 2026-01-13 11:59 -0500
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-15 18:14 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10kbsbt$2s0i$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #200002 |
Tyrone wrote: >> You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does, >> without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him >> impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups. > > This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person. > I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was > using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But > someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on > other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers. > > Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same > person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here. > > Because Trolls Gotta Troll. Let's all get back to the topic at hand, which, from the vitriol in the OP, I presume is Tyrone voicing his distaste for threads on an Apple ng which are asking WHY iOS works the way Apple designed iOS to work. To that end, I ask Tyrone... Can you explain WHY you don't like threads asking WHY iOS works the way it does so that we, together, can answer your concerns about thread topics?
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| From | Jolly Roger <jollyroger@pobox.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-16 01:18 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <msthvbFtm5hU3@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #200009 |
On 2026-01-15, Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> wrote: > Tyrone wrote: >>> You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does, >>> without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him >>> impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups. >> >> This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person. >> I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was >> using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But >> someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on >> other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers. >> >> Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same >> person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here. >> >> Because Trolls Gotta Troll. > > Let's all get back to the topic at handi Fuck off. THIS is the topic at hand. You just don't like it. -- E-mail sent to this address may be devoured by my ravenous SPAM filter. I often ignore posts from Google. Use a real news client instead. JR
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-16 02:25 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10kc7ic$6rrk$1@solani.org> |
| In reply to | #200002 |
Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote: > On Jan 15, 2026 at 2:32:55 PM EST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: > >> >> You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does, >> without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him >> impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups. > > This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person. > I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was > using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But > someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on > other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers. > > Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same > person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here. > > Because Trolls Gotta Troll. > Really Tyrone? Just that you think this shows your paranoia is boundless. Even Lorenz is more reasonable than you.
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| From | Alan <nuh-uh@nope.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-15 19:12 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <10kcaap$1a5k0$3@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #200021 |
On 2026-01-15 18:25, badgolferman wrote: > Tyrone <none@none.none> wrote: >> On Jan 15, 2026 at 2:32:55 PM EST, "Jolly Roger" <jollyroger@pobox.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> You're chock full of shit. And you support everything Arlen does, >>> without question. You even gleefully forgave him after you caught him >>> impersonating your nym over and over right in the Apple news groups. >> >> This is why is still believe that Arlen and Badgolferman are the same person. >> I also remember when Arlen got tossed off of whatever news server he was >> using. Or the service went down for a couple weeks. Whatever the reason. But >> someone (I don't remember who) pointed out that "badgolferman" was seen on >> other newsgroups asking about replacement news servers. >> >> Now WHY would "badgolferman" be doing that? They are either (1) the same >> person or (2) are friends and are tag-teaming each other here. >> >> Because Trolls Gotta Troll. >> > > Really Tyrone? Just that you think this shows your paranoia is boundless. > Even Lorenz is more reasonable than you. > Really, Quisling?
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 11:38 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10k5sea$2r6u$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #199926 |
badgolferman wrote: >> This is misc.phone.mobile.iphone not an amusement park. >> Such OT-threads are destroying what is left of the Usenet. >> >> More and more I get the impression that englishspeaking news groups are >> a kind of a virtual nursing home for demented people. >> >> Just taking some amusement out of this Troll-thread. >> > > > When was the last time you provided a discussion topic? Never! > > Your entire purpose here is to berate others so you can feel good about > yourself. Hi badgolferman, I agree fully with your appraisal above, and commend you for making that point, but I wish to discuss something VERY IMPORTANT with you if I may. I see you stayed out of the thread which discussed why only iOS is designed with so many different yet intertwined authentication tokens, that the end result of a long-term refusal to authenticate results in a 'bricked' device (i.e., Authentication Lock that only Apple can solve with proper ID). That simple thread asked why only Apple does what it does, and only with iOS (not with macOS); but it became a "circular" discussion simply because while some agreed that iOS does, indeed, ask for a password even when we never logged out -- but a few disagreed with that fact. They disagreed so repeatedly that, to them, it became a "circular argument", but only because they denied the very existence of fact. When they could no longer dismiss the facts, they resorted to insults. Which, I'm sure, is no surprise to anyone who has been on this newsgroup. However, to my credit, you'll note I never descended to their level. If you read the threads, I ignored their personal taunts (e.g., Tyrone owns the vitriol of Jolly Roger and Chris calls me political taunts, even as I've never been political on any of these threads as I'm no parrot). My goal for the entire year of "Maria", is to never respond to their taunts and to always bring the thread back to the factual intelligent level. It's actually an experiment that I've designed to last at least a year. My goal is to improve the discussion content of this ng within that time. That's why, in part, the questions are probing questions of why Apple does what it does with iOS, especially when no other OS is done that way. Wish me luck in improving the content of this newsgroup. I've solved tougher problems in my storied past so I'm confident that this approach of always not dropping to the level of taunts and staying technical and asking probing questions of why Apple does what only Apple does, will improve the intellectual level of this newsgroup. Note also I never respond to Alan Baker, Snit (Brock McNuggets) and Joerg Lorenze, which, you might wryly note, if I had wanted to "troll" (as I am accused of doing), I'd be able to easily troll by responding to them. -- If you never think how iOS works, you'll never understand how iOS works. If you never think why iOS works as it does, you'll never understand Apple.
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 11:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10k5tm3$39e44$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #199941 |
On 01/13/2026 11:38, Maria Sophia wrote: > Wish me luck in improving the content of this newsgroup. Good luck. That will only happen when people stop being so defensive all the time. And people become defensive (and offensive) when they have something to hide.
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 12:15 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10k5ujq$143t$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #199943 |
badgolferman wrote: > On 01/13/2026 11:38, Maria Sophia wrote: >> Wish me luck in improving the content of this newsgroup. > > > Good luck. That will only happen when people stop being so defensive > all the time. And people become defensive (and offensive) when they > have something to hide. Thank you. I believe it's a worthwhile experiment. Groundbreaking in fact. (If it works.) If it works, we all benefit from uplifting the discussions on this ng. The strategy of the "Year of Maria" is to ask probing questions of why and how iOS works the way only iOS works, so as to raise intellectual content. My promise to you, and to everyone, is to avoid responding to the taunts, and to deflect each taunt and attack back to the technical topic analyzed. Note that I'm making the goal obvious and public so as to add impetus to the realization of a newsgroup which becomes more intellectually uplifted. I'm not perfect, so at times I may spiral into the abyss, but if/when I do, I hope you (& others) help us all bring the ng back to the highest level. -- Note that I took a woman's moniker for the purpose, as men tend to soften their approach with women - although I was and am upfront as to who I am.
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 14:09 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <t--dneFOJKWZz_v0nZ2dnZfqnPednZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #199919 |
On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51 AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > On 2026-01-12 22:18, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >> On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote: >>> We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the >>> West, not HOW. >>> >>> Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West: >>> >>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk> >>> >>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/> >>> >>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/> >>> >>> See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim! >> >> Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll? >> > > He's doing what you apparently cannot: > > Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change. > > :-) The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread. Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then attack everyone who points out the obvious. Over and over and over.
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| From | badgolferman <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 09:10 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10k5jp9$366rf$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #199933 |
On 01/13/2026 09:09, Tyrone wrote: > On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51 AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: > >> On 2026-01-12 22:18, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>> On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote: >>>> We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the >>>> West, not HOW. >>>> >>>> Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West: >>>> >>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk> >>>> >>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/> >>>> >>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/> >>>> >>>> See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim! >>> >>> Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll? >>> >> >> He's doing what you apparently cannot: >> >> Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change. >> >> :-) > > The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread. > Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the > absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then > attack everyone who points out the obvious. > > Over and over and over. I thought your OP was funny!
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| From | Tyrone <none@none.none> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 14:17 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <DjydnciLH_aYyfv0nZ2dnZfqn_SdnZ2d@supernews.com> |
| In reply to | #199934 |
On Jan 13, 2026 at 9:10:49 AM EST, "badgolferman" <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: > On 01/13/2026 09:09, Tyrone wrote: >> On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51 AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >> >>> On 2026-01-12 22:18, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>> On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote: >>>>> We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the >>>>> West, not HOW. >>>>> >>>>> Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West: >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/> >>>>> >>>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/> >>>>> >>>>> See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim! >>>> >>>> Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll? >>>> >>> >>> He's doing what you apparently cannot: >>> >>> Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change. >>> >>> :-) >> >> The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread. >> Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the >> absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then >> attack everyone who points out the obvious. >> >> Over and over and over. > > I thought your OP was funny! It was supposed to be.
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| From | Maria Sophia <mariasophia@comprehension.com> |
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| Date | 2026-01-13 11:59 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <10k5tlu$19v7$1@nnrp.usenet.blueworldhosting.com> |
| In reply to | #199936 |
Tyrone wrote: > On Jan 13, 2026 at 9:10:49 AM EST, "badgolferman" > <REMOVETHISbadgolferman@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On 01/13/2026 09:09, Tyrone wrote: >>> On Jan 13, 2026 at 1:23:51 AM EST, "Alan" <nuh-uh@nope.com> wrote: >>> >>>> On 2026-01-12 22:18, Jörg Lorenz wrote: >>>>> On 13.01.26 01:31, Tyrone wrote: >>>>>> We all know the Sun rises in the West. My question is WHY does it rise in the >>>>>> West, not HOW. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here are my links that prove The Sun rises in the West: >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/tvandshowbiz/37890247/brooklyn-beckham-nicola-peltz-birthday/> >>>>>> >>>>>> <https://www.thesun.co.uk/health/37892058/nhs-four-hospital-trusts-surge-no-beds/> >>>>>> >>>>>> See? All links to The Sun! I have proved my claim! >>>>> >>>>> Is it your ambition to beat Arlen at any price, Troll? >>>>> >>>> >>>> He's doing what you apparently cannot: >>>> >>>> Taking amusement out of something that he cannot change. >>>> >>>> :-) >>> >>> The point of this topic is that this illustrates a typical Arlen thread. >>> Start with an absurd premise, link to random web pages that do not support the >>> absurd premise, CLAIM that the websites support the absurd premise and then >>> attack everyone who points out the obvious. >>> >>> Over and over and over. >> >> I thought your OP was funny! > > It was supposed to be. Hi Tyrone, Thank you very much for opening this question which forces us all to think. Specifically, it forces us to think deeper about WHY iOS is the way it is. There's a vast difference between humor and ridicule, yet, I enjoyed this thread you kindly authored because it provides us all an equal opportunity to intelligently discuss the intellectual future of this Apple newsgroup. To your fundamental (if slightly hidden) main point, intentional ridicule does not change nor alter the fact that iOS handles identity and token renewal in a way that is different from other platforms, including macOS. That difference is worth examining in a newsgroup dedicated to the product. Understanding why a system behaves the way it does is part of any technical discussion, especially when the behavior is unique & has real effects on devices (e.g., 'bricking', aka "Activation Lock" as the ultimate outcome). No other common consumer operating system behaves that way. Just iOS. What you appear to be attempting to ridicule is simply the question: Q: Why? A: ? I believe that asking how and why something works is not an absurd premise. It is the fundamental basis of truly understanding any operating system. If you think the behavior I have described cannot happen, then explain the mechanism in iOS that prevents it instead of attacking the question with ridicule. -- My goal on this Apple newsgroup is three fold, the first of which is to help people, and the second of which is to learn, and lastly, to teach.
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