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| First post | 2025-02-17 08:00 +0000 |
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Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar J White <jwhite@none.com> - 2025-02-17 08:00 +0000
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 19:32 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-17 20:08 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 04:54 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Java <java@boner.org> - 2025-02-18 22:31 -0800
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 18:33 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 19:24 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 19:38 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 19:54 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-19 20:30 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Roderick <noreply@mixmin.net> - 2025-02-19 11:12 +0000
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-20 08:55 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-20 09:27 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Ed P <esp@snet.n> - 2025-02-17 08:29 -0500
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 07:21 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 09:03 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 10:03 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 10:51 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 11:25 +1100
Re: Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> - 2025-02-18 13:25 +1100
| From | J White <jwhite@none.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 08:00 +0000 |
| Subject | Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar |
| Message-ID | <vouqb7$dmnq$4@news.mixmin.net> |
Australia’s government will ban foreign investors from buying established houses for the next two years as part of an election pitch to tackle surging home prices. From April 1, foreign investors will be banned from buying established property until March 31, 2027, Housing Minister Clare O’Neil said in a statement Sunday. The restriction will then be reviewed to determine whether it should be extended. Australia’s housing is some of the most unaffordable in the world and soaring property prices will be a key election issue amid a broader cost- of-living crisis, especially among young voters who fear they’ll never be able to buy a home. In Sydney, housing values have jumped almost 70% over the past 10 years, with the median dwelling price now around A$1.2 million ($762,000), according to property consultancy CoreLogic Inc. Rents have also been climbing. Still, the ban is likely to have only a marginal effect on prices. Overseas investors bought A$4.9 billion of residential real estate — including vacant land, new and established dwellings — in the 12 months ended June 30, 2023, according to the Australian Taxation Office. Established dwellings accounted for about one third of the total. The tax office will be given extra funding to help enforce the ban, O’Neil said Sunday. The government’s move to ban foreign purchases of established houses matches a pledge by opposition leader Peter Dutton made last year. An election must be held by May 17, and polls show it will be a close fight, with cost-of-living concerns and housing among the top three issues. https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban- home-prices-rent/
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 19:32 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.213tzzigbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14865 |
J White <jwhite@none.com> wrote > Australia’s government will ban foreign investors from buying established > houses for the next two years as part of an election pitch to tackle > surging home prices. > From April 1, foreign investors will be banned from buying established > property until March 31, 2027, Housing Minister Clare O’Neil said in a > statement Sunday. The restriction will then be reviewed to determine > whether it should be extended. > Australia’s housing is some of the most unaffordable in the world Mindless bullshit > and soaring property prices will be a key election issue We'll see... > amid a broader cost-of-living crisis, There is no crisis > especially among young voters who fear they’ll never be > able to buy a home. Nothing new about that > In Sydney, housing values have jumped almost 70% over the past 10 years, > with the median dwelling price now around A$1.2 million ($762,000), > according to property consultancy CoreLogic Inc. Rents have also been > climbing. Nothing has been SOURING > Still, the ban is likely to have only a marginal effect on prices. > Overseas investors bought A$4.9 billion of residential real estate — > including vacant land, new and established dwellings — in the 12 months > ended June 30, 2023, according to the Australian Taxation Office. > Established dwellings accounted for about one third of the total. Still a substantial percentage > The tax office will be given extra funding to help enforce the ban, > O’Neil said Sunday. > The government’s move to ban foreign purchases of established houses > matches a pledge by opposition leader Peter Dutton made last year. An > election must be held by May 17, and polls show it will be a close fight, > with cost-of-living concerns and housing among the top three issues. > https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban- > home-prices-rent/
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 20:08 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <dru5rjt03avrmegg9np0fjoba8a40tliha@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14865 |
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:00:39 -0000 (UTC), J White <jwhite@none.com> wrote: ><https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban-home-prices-rent/> https://tinyurl.com/t3rtctsh Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar *************************************** The REAL problems in housing unaffordability was started by John Howard in 1999 by cutting "CAPITAL GAINS TAX" from (check https://t.ly/2FKyw) example, 50% to 25% which, IMO, made negative gearing a guaranteed easy money scam. Property prices started increasing and escalating faster and faster. At 50% it was still a reasonable investment at 25% it's a money making scam. Federal Parliament has 435 politicians and only 12 have not declared a negative geared property portfolio! the link below explains most. https://youtu.be/iqUFERBJwoY If one has a good reliable stable income "negative gearing." is done by approaching a bank for a loan on rental property, that includes all repayments, insurance (bundled together), for the time of the loan.`` A bank is only concerned about one's ability to reliably pay the interest. Ones interest rates are tax deductible, one has to include rent as income. To find out more ask your bank and or financial advisor. Many invest in multiple properties/homes depending on their income from your employment (this particularly includes politicians). This suggests to me politicians need mass immigration to supply home renters and squalid rental homes for them to live in. https://nypost.com/2024/06/14/us-news/how-non-citizens-are-getting-voter-registration-forms-across-the-us-and-how-republicans-are-trying-to-stop-it/ How non-citizens ( ILLEGAL ALIENS) are getting voter registration forms across the US — and how Republicans are trying to stop it https://rumble.com/v5w0plw-biden-administration-under-fire-for-distributing-voter-id-forms-to-illegal-.html -- Petzl The Greens have never done anything worthwhile to this country. All they are known for is being an arm of the ALP and handing them and vice versa, preferences at election time. Labor the best party that Chinese money can buy!
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 04:54 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.214j1dz4byq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14867 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > J White <jwhite@none.com wrote >> <https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban-home-prices-rent/> >> https://tinyurl.com/t3rtctsh >> Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar > The REAL problems in housing unaffordability was started by John > Howard in 1999 by cutting "CAPITAL GAINS TAX" from (check > https://t.ly/2FKyw) example, 50% to 25% which, IMO, made negative > gearing a guaranteed easy money scam. More mindless pig ignorant bullshit. Capital gains tax is irrelevant to negative gearing because it only apply when property is sold, not to ongoing rental property income. > Property prices started increasing and escalating faster and faster. Because we stupidly allowed vast number of foreigners to show up here as legal migrants and 'student' which weren't in fact real students at all. ' > At 50% it was still a reasonable investment at 25% it's a money making > scam. More mindless pig ignorant bullshit. Its actually the rate of income tax that plenty pay > Federal Parliament has 435 politicians and only 12 have not declared a > negative geared property portfolio! You have no way of knowning how many of them are negatively geared and its very unlikely that many of them except maybe holiday houses are given the very tight rental market. > the link below explains most. > https://youtu.be/iqUFERBJwoY It just more mindless bullshit from some silly cow that doesnt have a fucking clue. > If one has a good reliable stable income "negative gearing." is done > by approaching a bank for a loan on rental property, that includes all > repayments, insurance (bundled together), for the time of the loan.`` > A bank is only concerned about one's ability to reliably pay the > interest. > Ones interest rates are tax deductible, > one has to include rent as income. > To find out more ask your bank and or financial advisor. > Many invest in multiple properties/homes depending on their income > from your employment (this particularly includes politicians). > This suggests to me politicians need mass immigration to supply home > renters and squalid rental homes for them to live in. It isnt possible to negatively gear in a very tight rental market where you can charge what you like rental wise and so the income will be more than your legally deductable costs. <reams of US shit irrelevant to what is being discussed flushed where it belongs>
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| From | Java <java@boner.org> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 22:31 -0800 |
| Message-ID | <vp3tr1$nol1$8@news.mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #14867 |
On 2/17/2025 1:08 AM, Petzl wrote: > On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:00:39 -0000 (UTC), J White <jwhite@none.com> > wrote: > >> <https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban-home-prices-rent/> > https://tinyurl.com/t3rtctsh > Australia to ban foreigners from buying some homes as costs soar > *************************************** > > The REAL problems in housing unaffordability was started by John > Howard in 1999 by cutting "CAPITAL GAINS TAX" from (check > https://t.ly/2FKyw) example, 50% to 25% which, IMO, made negative > gearing a guaranteed easy money scam. > Property prices started increasing and escalating faster and faster. > At 50% it was still a reasonable investment at 25% it's a money making > scam. > Federal Parliament has 435 politicians and only 12 have not declared a > negative geared property portfolio! > the link below explains most. > https://youtu.be/iqUFERBJwoY The US problem got it's roots when Bill Clinton relaxed loan requirements and suddenly anyone could "qualify" for a loan. That led to a flood of purchases, defaults and outright theft. Obama tried something similar, but he didn't have near the impact Clinton did. There are still lawsuits in progress and abandoned properties around that were totally stripped and wrecked by the buyers. > If one has a good reliable stable income "negative gearing." is done > by approaching a bank for a loan on rental property, that includes all > repayments, insurance (bundled together), for the time of the loan.`` > A bank is only concerned about one's ability to reliably pay the > interest. Unless you're doing business in the state of New York, your name is Trump and a Republican. Then despite paying back the loan on time and in full, the attorney general does a ham sandwich indictment and conviction on you. > Ones interest rates are tax deductible, > one has to include rent as income. > To find out more ask your bank and or financial advisor. > Many invest in multiple properties/homes depending on their income > from your employment (this particularly includes politicians). > This suggests to me politicians need mass immigration to supply home > renters and squalid rental homes for them to live in. > > https://nypost.com/2024/06/14/us-news/how-non-citizens-are-getting-voter-registration-forms-across-the-us-and-how-republicans-are-trying-to-stop-it/ > How non-citizens ( ILLEGAL ALIENS) are getting voter registration > forms across the US — and how Republicans are trying to stop it > > https://rumble.com/v5w0plw-biden-administration-under-fire-for-distributing-voter-id-forms-to-illegal-.html The USA had voter registration cards back in the 60's. If you didn't have a card, you didn't vote. Democrats claim blacks are too stupid to get ID cards or drivers licenses now in 2025.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 18:33 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <i41brjl2uo3jhms5ivdnaehbet6pfh0ckd@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14876 |
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 22:31:02 -0800, Java <java@boner.org> wrote: Snipped this was about negative gearing bank loans in Australia driving homes and rents up >> https://nypost.com/2024/06/14/us-news/how-non-citizens-are-getting-voter-registration-forms-across-the-us-and-how-republicans-are-trying-to-stop-it/ >> How non-citizens ( ILLEGAL ALIENS) are getting voter registration >> forms across the US — and how Republicans are trying to stop it >> >> https://rumble.com/v5w0plw-biden-administration-under-fire-for-distributing-voter-id-forms-to-illegal-.html > >The USA had voter registration cards back in the 60's. If you didn't >have a card, you didn't vote. > >Democrats claim blacks are too stupid to get ID cards or drivers >licenses now in 2025. > I'm in Sydney Australia Yes the US election in 2020 looks stolen and computer manipulated In 2024 the cheating was even more, Donald Trump caused more Americans to go out and vote which overwhelmed even this cheating The only states Kamala Harris "won" do not require voter IP Newsmax raised eyebrows about this Screenshot from TV https://ibb.co/4nMShX76 Political state maps RED Trump, BLUE Harris Says it all -- Petzl Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.” I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 19:24 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.217izfb1byq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14877 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > Snipped this was about negative gearing bank loans in Australia No such animal, there are JUST mortgages which may or may not qualify as negatively geared depending on the income the landlord manages to get the renter to pay nd that isnt even possible with a very tight rental market when the landlord can charge anything they like rent wise. > driving homes and rents up More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit. <reams of your pig ignorant shit flushed where it belongs>
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 19:38 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <fq5brj5sml28r2qavl4725kbsik0hmm7sf@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14878 |
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:24:41 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > >> Snipped this was about negative gearing bank loans in Australia > >No such animal, there are JUST mortgages which may >or may not qualify as negatively geared depending on >the income the landlord manages to get the renter to pay >nd that isnt even possible with a very tight rental market >when the landlord can charge anything they like rent wise. > >> driving homes and rents up > >More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit. > ><reams of your pig ignorant shit flushed where it belongs> > Coming from someone heading to Turkey while a European war hot's up Take care Rod I for one would miss you! -- Petzl Stalin has decreed that murder is a capitalist disease; there is no murder in a communist paradise. The soviet governments job was to shoot and kill anyone who had proof of something different "Our" government and media decree that this "secular multiculturalism paradise" does not have immigrant crime and remove anyone stating different!.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 19:54 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.217kcmptbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14879 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >>> Snipped this was about negative gearing bank loans in Australia >> No such animal, there are JUST mortgages which may >> or may not qualify as negatively geared depending on >> the income the landlord manages to get the renter to pay >> nd that isnt even possible with a very tight rental market >> when the landlord can charge anything they like rent wise. >>> driving homes and rents up >> More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit. >> <reams of your pig ignorant shit flushed where it belongs> > Coming from someone heading to Turkey Taint me doing that, fuckwit, as I said right from the start.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 20:30 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <l39brj531ova4supaqbsoe245vl0i6be66@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14880 |
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 19:54:12 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > >>>> Snipped this was about negative gearing bank loans in Australia > >>> No such animal, there are JUST mortgages which may >>> or may not qualify as negatively geared depending on >>> the income the landlord manages to get the renter to pay >>> nd that isnt even possible with a very tight rental market >>> when the landlord can charge anything they like rent wise. > >>>> driving homes and rents up > >>> More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit. > >>> <reams of your pig ignorant shit flushed where it belongs> > >> Coming from someone heading to Turkey > >Taint me doing that, fuckwit, as I said right from the start. > Good news, make a few more beers, sounds good -- Petzl Jesus “taught with authority” (Matthew 7:29), and the risen Lord gave his Apostles a share in his authority when he commissioned them to make disciples from all the nations by teaching what he had commanded them (Matthew 28:18–20). Tiberius Caesar who reigned for 22 years, and his last year was AD 37. wrote: "The extremities of Spain, the various parts of Gaul, the regions of Britain which have never been penetrated by Roman arms, have received the religion of Christ."
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| From | Roderick <noreply@mixmin.net> |
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| Date | 2025-02-19 11:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <20250219.111245.72157d1d@mixmin.net> |
| In reply to | #14880 |
In <op.217kcmptbyq249@pvr2.lan> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote > > Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > >>>> Snipped this was about negative gearing bank loans in Australia > >>> No such animal, there are JUST mortgages which may >>> or may not qualify as negatively geared depending on >>> the income the landlord manages to get the renter to pay >>> nd that isnt even possible with a very tight rental market >>> when the landlord can charge anything they like rent wise. > >>>> driving homes and rents up > >>> More of your mindless pig ignorant bullshit. > >>> <reams of your pig ignorant shit flushed where it belongs> > >> Coming from someone heading to Turkey > > Taint me doing that, fuckwit, as I said right from the start. You can't afford to go to Turkey. Hell, you probably can't even afford to buy one.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-20 08:55 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <62kcrj9ibmgqgjiuj4j3g7scdd2d5odthq@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14882 |
On Wed, 19 Feb 2025 11:12:45 +0000, Roderick <noreply@mixmin.net>
wrote:
>>> Coming from someone heading to Turkey
>>
>> Taint me doing that, fuckwit, as I said right from the start.
>
>You can't afford to go to Turkey.
>Hell, you probably can't even afford to buy one.
>
Pretty sure Rod has more than a few bob on him at any time
been reading Rod Speed since 1980's he has not changed.
More often right than wrong.
Not nice to anyone though.
Turkish Airlines are now operating from Sydney to Istanbul
4 flights a week from October 2 with latest Aircraft
Apparently at very, very good prices?
Guessing that travel to Europe will drop in price from AU
<https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/turkish-airlines-daily-sydney-istanbul-flights>
https://t.ly/TULmx
February 14 2025
Turkish Airlines to start daily Sydney flights
Daily flights between Sydney and Istanbul will run via Kuala Lumpur,
with non-stop flights soon to follow...
--
Petzl
Gough Whitlam when Joe Riordan lost the seat of Philip in Sydney’s
eastern suburbs. “Comrade, comrade, how negligent of you. To lose a
seat in which there is not one but three cemeteries is unforgivable.”
I had an uncle that lived in Wellington. He voted Liberal all his
life until he passed away 10 years ago. Now he votes Labor.
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-20 09:27 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.218lz5b0byq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14883 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >>>> Coming from someone heading to Turkey >>> Taint me doing that, fuckwit, as I said right from the start. > Pretty sure Rod has more than a few bob on him at any time Yep, completely trivial to afford that trip or any other world wide if I wanted to do it. > been reading Rod Speed since 1980's he has not changed. > More often right than wrong. > Not nice to anyone though. I have been nice to plenty now long gone. > Turkish Airlines are now operating from Sydney to Istanbul And Melburg too. That suits my mates better even tho Sydney is cheaper, because they drive to Melburg and stay with the relos overnight and leave the car there while they are away in Turkey. And Turkish Airlines fly to the eastern turkey town where they are going so no need to hike bags at Istanbul airport either. ' > 4 flights a week from October 2 with latest Aircraft They have been flying from here for years now. > Apparently at very, very good prices? Not the cheapest but certainly were as cheap as any others when we first started looking but have now hiked by 10% and the others at the low end havent. > Guessing that travel to Europe will drop in price from AU > <https://www.executivetraveller.com/news/turkish-airlines-daily-sydney-istanbul-flights> > https://t.ly/TULmx > February 14 2025 > Turkish Airlines to start daily Sydney flights They have been doing flights from AU for a while now. > Daily flights between Sydney and Istanbul will run via Kuala Lumpur, Flights from Melburg go via Singapore and some others like Qantas/BalikAir via Indonesia. They prefer Singapore. > with non-stop flights soon to follow... They dont care, they quite like the stopover in Singapore given they gave 3 kids, the oldest just started highschool this year and the youngest at the bottom of primary school who is a fierce little fella.
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| From | Ed P <esp@snet.n> |
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| Date | 2025-02-17 08:29 -0500 |
| Message-ID | <vovdjs$15hf6$4@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #14865 |
On 2/17/2025 3:00 AM, J White wrote: > Australia’s government will ban foreign investors from buying established > houses for the next two years as part of an election pitch to tackle > surging home prices. > > From April 1, foreign investors will be banned from buying established > property until March 31, 2027, Housing Minister Clare O’Neil said in a > statement Sunday. The restriction will then be reviewed to determine > whether it should be extended. > > Australia’s housing is some of the most unaffordable in the world and > soaring property prices will be a key election issue amid a broader cost- > of-living crisis, especially among young voters who fear they’ll never be > able to buy a home. > > In Sydney, housing values have jumped almost 70% over the past 10 years, > with the median dwelling price now around A$1.2 million ($762,000), > according to property consultancy CoreLogic Inc. Rents have also been > climbing. > > Still, the ban is likely to have only a marginal effect on prices. > Overseas investors bought A$4.9 billion of residential real estate — > including vacant land, new and established dwellings — in the 12 months > ended June 30, 2023, according to the Australian Taxation Office. > Established dwellings accounted for about one third of the total. > > The tax office will be given extra funding to help enforce the ban, O’Neil > said Sunday. > > The government’s move to ban foreign purchases of established houses > matches a pledge by opposition leader Peter Dutton made last year. An > election must be held by May 17, and polls show it will be a close fight, > with cost-of-living concerns and housing among the top three issues. > > https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban- > home-prices-rent/ Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new houses and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out and are driving up rental prices.
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 07:21 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <j367rjt4a47jotkhl0rva20pskrhgf0knc@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14868 |
On Mon, 17 Feb 2025 08:29:31 -0500, Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote: >> >> https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban- >> home-prices-rent/ > >Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new houses >and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out and >are driving up rental prices. > Price of housing and rents can be controlled (lowered) by raising the "Capital Gains tax" on negative gearing. Just as putting Tariffs on imported goods can increase employment with GOOD well paying jobs Australian Manufacturing, would return to Australia, The REAL problems in housing unaffordability was started by John Howard in 1999 by cutting "CAPITAL GAINS TAX" from (check https://t.ly/2FKyw) example, 50% to 25% which, IMO, made negative gearing a guaranteed easy money scam. Property prices started increasing and escalating faster and faster. At 50% it was still a reasonable investment at 25% it's a money making scam. Federal Parliament has 435 politicians and only 12 have not declared a negative geared property portfolio! the link below explains most. https://youtu.be/iqUFERBJwoY If one has a good reliable stable income "negative gearing." is done by approaching a bank for a loan on rental property, that includes all repayments, insurance (bundled together), for the time of the loan.`` A bank is only concerned about one's ability to reliably pay the interest. Ones interest rates are tax deductible, one has to include rent as income. To find out more ask your bank and or financial advisor. Many invest in multiple properties/homes depending on their income from your employment (this particularly includes politicians). This suggests to me politicians need mass immigration to supply home renters and squalid rental homes for them to live in. -- Petzl ALWAYS Vote oligarchies Coalition, Labor, "Greens" One Nation. *LAST*, Federal State and Council! “Everything that defines us is now an enemy, so they attack national identity, they attack religious identity, they attack gender identity, they attack family identity. I can’t define myself as Italian, Christian, woman, mother, no. I must be citizen x, gender x, parent 1, parent 2. I must be a number, because when I am only a number, when I no longer have an identity or roots, then I will be the perfect slave at the mercy of financial speculators. : - Italian Prime Minister Giorgia Meloni
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 09:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.214vjzwhbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14870 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > Ed P <esp@snet.n> wrote >>> https://fortune.com/2025/02/16/australia-housing-foreign-investor-ban- >>> home-prices-rent/ >> Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new houses >> and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out and >> are driving up rental prices. > Price of housing and rents can be controlled (lowered) by raising the > "Capital Gains tax" on negative gearing. There is no capital gains tax on negative gearing. There is JUST a lower capital gains tax on longer financial investments and its there because its impossible to separate real capital gain from inflation of that financial investment. Nothing to do with negative gearing. > Just as putting Tariffs on imported goods can increase employment with > GOOD well paying jobs More mindless bullshit, particularly when doing that sees reciprical tariffs on what is already GOOD well paying jobs like in the mining industry, beef exports, other high value food like lobsters and wine. > Australian Manufacturing, would return to Australia, BULLSHIT And what was manufactured here like cars were steaming turds like cars and domestic appliances. <reams of your pig ignorant repetetive shit flushed where it belongs>
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 10:03 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <kqf7rjpks7uhk8rv17sfsl3b3m4ckv0qe8@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14871 |
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 09:03:25 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new houses >>> and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out and >>> are driving up rental prices. > >> Price of housing and rents can be controlled (lowered) by raising the >> "Capital Gains tax" on negative gearing. > >There is no capital gains tax on negative gearing. > >There is JUST a lower capital gains tax on longer financial investments >and its there because its impossible to separate real capital gain from >inflation of that financial investment. Nothing to do with negative >gearing. > The voice of "god" Rod Speed and his "ouija board" <https://www.suburbsfinder.com.au/capital-gains-tax-calculator-know-how-much-should-you-pay/> https://t.ly/K4997 Capital Gains Tax Calculator – Know How Much Should You Pay Are you thinking of selling a home or property? You have to pay Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on the sale based on your taxable income. This CGT applies in Australia whenever you sell an investment property, shares, or other assets at a profit. But it doesn’t apply to most personal property and items, such as your car or family home. __ Petzl Anthony Albanese at age of 18 got a job for nine months in commonwealth bank <https://www.linkedin.com/posts/vern-hughes-92341119_it-is-not-true-that-anthony-albanese-has-activity-7068765502021517312-jwAC> https://t.ly/5jJjE It is not true that Anthony Albanese has never held a real job. He worked in the Commonwealth Bank for 9 months when he was 18. Albo's replacement at Commonwealth Bank https://youtu.be/hWemeervqhA?si=-M7SWX55dyWD_ked just push"F5" to remove advert
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 10:51 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2140jdcqbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14872 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>> Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new houses >>>> and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out and >>>> are driving up rental prices. >>> Price of housing and rents can be controlled (lowered) by raising the >>> "Capital Gains tax" on negative gearing. >> There is no capital gains tax on negative gearing. >> There is JUST a lower capital gains tax on longer financial investments >> and its there because its impossible to separate real capital gain from >> inflation of that financial investment. Nothing to do with negative >> gearing. > <https://www.suburbsfinder.com.au/capital-gains-tax-calculator-know-how-much-should-you-pay/> > https://t.ly/K4997 > Capital Gains Tax Calculator – Know How Much Should You Pay > Are you thinking of selling a home or property? You have to pay > Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on the sale based on your taxable income. > This CGT applies in Australia whenever you sell an investment > property, shares, or other assets at a profit. But it doesn’t apply to > most personal property and items, such as your car or family home. Says absolutely NOTHING about NEGATIVE GEARING
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| From | Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 11:25 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <krk7rjlmp35obil7jcs5f77bdhh2e1naa3@4ax.com> |
| In reply to | #14873 |
On Tue, 18 Feb 2025 10:51:03 +1100, "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote: >Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote > >>>>> Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new houses >>>>> and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out and >>>>> are driving up rental prices. > >>>> Price of housing and rents can be controlled (lowered) by raising the >>>> "Capital Gains tax" on negative gearing. > >>> There is no capital gains tax on negative gearing. > >>> There is JUST a lower capital gains tax on longer financial investments >>> and its there because its impossible to separate real capital gain from >>> inflation of that financial investment. Nothing to do with negative >>> gearing. > >> <https://www.suburbsfinder.com.au/capital-gains-tax-calculator-know-how-much-should-you-pay/> >> https://t.ly/K4997 >> Capital Gains Tax Calculator – Know How Much Should You Pay >> Are you thinking of selling a home or property? You have to pay >> Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on the sale based on your taxable income. >> This CGT applies in Australia whenever you sell an investment >> property, shares, or other assets at a profit. But it doesn’t apply to >> most personal property and items, such as your car or family home. > >Says absolutely NOTHING about NEGATIVE GEARING > It explains what Capital gains, one will pay on selling a negative geared property Bur thwn you knew that. -- Petzl Rod Speed help 24/7 https://www.sensationbot.com/jschat.php?db=rodspeed
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| From | "Rod Speed" <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> |
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| Date | 2025-02-18 13:25 +1100 |
| Message-ID | <op.2147pfmxbyq249@pvr2.lan> |
| In reply to | #14874 |
Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote > Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >> Petzl <petzlx@gmail.com> wrote >>> Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote >>>>>> Similar happening in this country. A developer put up 200 new >>>>>> houses >>>>>> and half were bought by investment firms. They will rent them out >>>>>> and >>>>>> are driving up rental prices. >>>>> Price of housing and rents can be controlled (lowered) by raising the >>>>> "Capital Gains tax" on negative gearing. >>>> There is no capital gains tax on negative gearing. >>>> There is JUST a lower capital gains tax on longer financial >>>> investments >>>> and its there because its impossible to separate real capital gain >>>> from >>>> inflation of that financial investment. Nothing to do with negative >>>> gearing. >>> <https://www.suburbsfinder.com.au/capital-gains-tax-calculator-know-how-much-should-you-pay/> >>> https://t.ly/K4997 >>> Capital Gains Tax Calculator – Know How Much Should You Pay >>> Are you thinking of selling a home or property? You have to pay >>> Capital Gains Tax (CGT) on the sale based on your taxable income. >>> This CGT applies in Australia whenever you sell an investment >>> property, shares, or other assets at a profit. But it doesn’t apply to >>> most personal property and items, such as your car or family home. >> Says absolutely NOTHING about NEGATIVE GEARING > It explains what Capital gains, one will pay on selling a > negative geared property It applys to selling ANY property, not just negative geared property, fuckwit.
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