Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL)

From	Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.project
Subject	Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL)
Date	2026-02-17 10:50 +0100
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Quoting Andreas Tille (2026-02-17 09:05:08)
> Am Sat, Feb 14, 2026 at 03:46:25PM +0100 schrieb Tobias Frost:
[...]
> > There are teams that are
> > very well organized and we've never had issues with; We've
> > got agreements with some teams how to handle their retirement cases and
> > that worked well; but those teams are usually not sources of concerns
> > for the MIA team; usually those agreements are in the line of "don't
> > file bugs, send us a mail that someone went missing and we'll use our
> > automation to update the Uploaders file".)
> 
> I would very much welcome this becoming the default way of dealing with
> such situations.

Do you mean to say, that you would welcome treating only very well
organized teams as teams in Debian?

I mean, what Tobias says about teams is likely same for human beings as
well: Very well organized human beings don't go missing but properly
retire or in other ways inform their surroundings before $life happens
to them. Your response is "great, let's then streamline around those
types of beings, because that sounds lovely", but it feels to me that
you are missing an important point in there...

 - Jonas

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unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) "Jonathan Dowland" <jmtd@debian.org> - 2026-02-05 14:20 +0100
  Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) Jonas Smedegaard <dr@jones.dk> - 2026-02-05 15:50 +0100
  Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2026-02-05 16:20 +0100
    Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2026-02-05 16:50 +0100
      Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2026-02-05 18:30 +0100
        Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2026-02-05 19:30 +0100
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                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance (was Re: Bits from the DPL) Charles Plessy <plessy@debian.org> - 2026-02-17 15:20 +0100
                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2026-02-17 18:30 +0100
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                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2026-02-18 21:40 +0100
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                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2026-02-19 08:50 +0100
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                Bug#798476: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance Tobias Frost <tobi@debian.org> - 2026-02-19 22:50 +0100
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                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2026-02-20 15:00 +0100
                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance Dominik George <natureshadow@debian.org> - 2026-02-20 15:30 +0100
                Re: unmaintained packages hidden by team maintenance gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2026-02-22 04:50 +0100
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