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Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework?

From Matthias Geiger <werdahias@riseup.net>
Newsgroups linux.debian.project
Subject Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework?
Date 2026-04-27 18:30 +0200
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On Sat, 25 Apr 2026 11:46, Aryan Karamtoth <spaciouscoder78@disroot.org> wrote:
>Hello fellow developers and maintainers as well as the DPL,
>
>Framework caught my attention recently as I discovered that they have a 
>12'' inch version of their laptop line up and I was curious about the 
>Linux compatibility on their laptops and I came to know that they 
>officially support Fedora, Ubuntu and Bazzite but they also listed Mint, 
>Arch and NixOS as community supported ones [1].
>
I agree with Chris here. Endorsing a dev whose values are known to be 
deeply racist is very questionable.

This could've been an honest mistake; however the least they could've 
done is apologize and rescind the endorsement.

Anyway, I am not here to discuss Frameworks misgivings.

Regardless, I find this an important topic; if hardware has Debian 
preinstalled, this a) helps us and b) eventually gets more people to use 
Linux.
I would like to suggest a different company: Star Labs 
[0]. They are a small UK-based company also 
catering to linux-first devices. While it's not modular as the Framework 
it is still really good in terms of repairability and privacy (hardware 
kill switches). 
Furthermore, their support has been excellent. Disclaimer: I am owning a 
StarBook MK VI which is my main computing device since 2 years now. 

A few datapoints: 
- Battery life is fairly decent (~5 h medium usage under sway)
- Everything just works ootb (hardware-wise)
- The intel models are available with coreboot
- Every single part can be purchased as spare/replacement
- The bottom and lid is made out of aluminum and it's fairly 
  scratch-resistant


The only complaint that I have that the screen could be brighter, and 
that the rubber feet tend to get loose.

(I really should write a blogpost at some point about it)

best,

werdahias

Links:

[0]: https://de.starlabs.systems/

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Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Matthias Geiger <werdahias@riseup.net> - 2026-04-27 18:30 +0200
  Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? disaster2life <disaster2life@autistici.org> - 2026-04-27 19:40 +0200
    Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Matthias Geiger <werdahias@riseup.net> - 2026-04-27 22:20 +0200
      Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? nick black <dankamongmen@gmail.com> - 2026-04-28 11:00 +0200
        Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2026-04-28 13:50 +0200
          Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2026-04-28 15:50 +0200
        Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Soren Stoutner <soren@debian.org> - 2026-04-29 21:00 +0200
        Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Sune Vuorela <nospam@vuorela.dk> - 2026-04-30 08:50 +0200
          Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Ansgar 🙀 <ansgar@debian.org> - 2026-05-01 10:20 +0200
            Re: Debian Certified Laptops -- Possibility of collaborating with Framework? Sune Vuorela <nospam@vuorela.dk> - 2026-05-02 10:20 +0200

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