Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal

From	Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.policy
Subject	Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal
Date	2018-08-12 19:50 +0200
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Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> writes:
> On Sat, Jul 28, 2018 at 01:51:12PM -0700, Russ Allbery wrote:

>> One remaining question in my mind is whether we should take the
>> opportunity of a format change to achieve a few other goals.  The most
>> obvious one would be to reconcile our short license identifiers with
>> SPDX (probably by making our identifiers a superset of the SPDX ones).

> The obvious objection to that would be the fact that the SPDX
> identifiers are not set in stone; a future update of the SPDX
> identifiers might then conflict with one of the identifiers that we add.
> Either we'd need a rule to have identifiers namespaced (say, "spdx:mit",
> and then use "debian:" as a non-spdx namespace, or some such), or a rule
> to not have non-SPDX identifiers.

A third option would be to tie each version of the copyright-format
specification to a specific version of SPDX.

I kind of like the namespacing idea, but maybe it's too complicated.

> Personally, I have a preference towards the latter; it seems simpler,
> and there is benefit to be had to encourage creating a new SPDX
> identifier over having a "local" fix.

We'd need to have some mechanism for one-off licenses.  SPDX has a
mechanism for that, although it's kind of ugly and only vaguely
applicable.

(I should probably fork this discussion off into another bug.)

-- 
Russ Allbery (rra@debian.org)               <http://www.eyrie.org/~eagle/>

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Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-16 16:10 +0100
  Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-12-16 16:40 +0100
    Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> - 2017-12-18 23:40 +0100
      Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-12-19 01:00 +0100
        Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifiero Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-12-19 11:00 +0100
    Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-23 20:10 +0100
      Bug#883950: [INPUT REQUIRED] Re: Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2017-12-28 21:00 +0100
        Bug#883950: [INPUT REQUIRED] Re: Bug#883950: debian-policy: allow specifying common licenses with only the identifier Joerg Jaspert <joerg@debian.org> - 2017-12-28 22:40 +0100
        Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-29 10:30 +0100
          Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2017-12-30 04:00 +0100
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-12-30 04:40 +0100
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-30 15:30 +0100
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2017-12-30 22:30 +0100
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-12-30 22:40 +0100
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2017-12-31 11:40 +0100
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-30 15:30 +0100
          Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2018-07-23 23:50 +0200
          Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-07-27 06:00 +0200
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-07-27 06:10 +0200
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-27 11:40 +0200
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-08-02 06:50 +0200
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal gregor herrmann <gregoa@debian.org> - 2018-08-02 10:40 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Guillem Jover <guillem@debian.org> - 2018-08-02 12:40 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2018-08-03 09:50 +0200
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-08-02 19:10 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> - 2018-08-03 05:10 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-08-03 05:20 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-08-14 19:10 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-08-15 00:30 +0200
          Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2018-07-28 17:00 +0200
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-07-28 17:30 +0200
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2018-07-29 02:40 +0200
            Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-07-28 23:00 +0200
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Stuart Prescott <stuart@debian.org> - 2018-07-29 10:20 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-07-29 19:10 +0200
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Wouter Verhelst <wouter@debian.org> - 2018-08-12 14:40 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2018-08-12 19:50 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2018-08-13 12:40 +0200
              Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-08-14 19:30 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Jonathan Nieder <jrnieder@gmail.com> - 2018-08-14 20:50 +0200
                Bug#883950: Next steps on "[GPL-3+]" proposal Ian Jackson <ijackson@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2018-08-15 15:00 +0200

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