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Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source

From Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.policy
Subject Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source
Date 2017-09-18 12:50 +0200
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On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:28:42AM +0200, Bill Allombert wrote:
> get-orig-source and watch files serve a different purpose.
> 
> get-orig-source is used to build the .orig. tarball from the true
> upstream one. Most package do not need that.  Watch files could not do
> that until recently.
> 
> So the comparaison is unfair.
> 
> What need to be checked is how many get-orig-source rules has been
> reimplemented in term of watch files.

Challenge accepted. ticharich.d.o has an unpack of rules debian/rules
files. Most of them are world-readable. A small number (~30) are
inaccessible, so my analysis will have an error of around 0.2%.

A simple method is to just look at which of them contain the string
"get-orig-source" and which of them contain the string "uscan" assuming
that when both show up, get-orig-source is implemented using uscan.

The following packages do not implement get-orig-source with uscan:

biojava4-live
boinc-app-seti
cjk
edk2
fasttree
freeorion
freerdp
gr-air-modes
gr-fcdproplus
gr-iqbal
gr-osmosdr
htmlunit
ioquake3
iortcw
josm
libb64
libreoffice
libtgvoip
neobio
nvidia-graphics-drivers
nvidia-graphics-drivers-legacy-304xx
pencil2d
pixelmed
qemu
r-cran-rniftilib
sagemath
west-chamber
zsh

So we have around 22500 source packages with watch files, we have 3000
packages with get-orig source, of those 28 don't use uscan. The fair
comparison is 22500 vs. 28. That's almost 3 magnitudes. If anything,
policy should document debian/watch, not get-orig-source. The perl
policy, python policy, elpa policy, ... each affect more packages than
get-orig-source. Keeping it is uneconomic.

Helmut

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Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2017-09-18 11:10 +0200
  Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-09-18 11:40 +0200
    Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Helmut Grohne <helmut@subdivi.de> - 2017-09-18 12:50 +0200
      Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-09-18 13:10 +0200
        Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-29 20:10 +0100
          Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Bill Allombert <ballombe@debian.org> - 2017-12-29 21:10 +0100
            Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Simon McVittie <smcv@debian.org> - 2017-12-30 02:00 +0100
              Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Russ Allbery <rra@debian.org> - 2017-12-30 02:30 +0100
            Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-30 15:20 +0100
              Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Alexandre Detiste <alexandre.detiste@gmail.com> - 2017-12-30 15:40 +0100
                Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Sean Whitton <spwhitton@spwhitton.name> - 2017-12-30 17:10 +0100
  Bug#515856: [debhelper-devel] Bug#515856: debhelper: please implement dh get-orig-source Niels Thykier <niels@thykier.net> - 2017-12-29 10:10 +0100

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