Groups | Search | Server Info | Keyboard shortcuts | Login | Register [http] [https] [nntp] [nntps]


Groups > linux.debian.maint.python > #8972

Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’

Path csiph.com!news.mixmin.net!aioe.org!gothmog.csi.it!bofh.it!news.nic.it!robomod
From Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.maint.python
Subject Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’
Date Thu, 03 Nov 2016 00:50:02 +0100
Message-ID <szds6-4tX-21@gated-at.bofh.it> (permalink)
References <syIeB-1oI-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <syJkm-232-31@gated-at.bofh.it> <syODn-5xo-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <syPpL-63q-5@gated-at.bofh.it> <syRUB-7vj-7@gated-at.bofh.it> <syTWp-hG-1@gated-at.bofh.it> <sz4oN-7k0-17@gated-at.bofh.it> <szccG-3OO-13@gated-at.bofh.it> <szcw2-3Ve-3@gated-at.bofh.it>
X-Original-To debian-python@lists.debian.org
X-Mailbox-Line From debian-python-request@lists.debian.org Wed Nov 2 23:40:56 2016
Old-Return-Path <debian-python@m.gmane.org>
X-Amavis-Spam-Status No, score=-5.318 tagged_above=-10000 required=5.3 tests=[BAYES_00=-2, HEADER_FROM_DIFFERENT_DOMAINS=0.001, LDO_WHITELIST=-5, RDNS_NONE=0.793, SARE_HEAD_8BIT_SPAM=0.888] autolearn=no autolearn_force=no
X-Policyd-Weight using cached result; rate:hard: -6.1
X-Injected-Via-Gmane http://gmane.org/
Lines 28
MIME-Version 1.0
Content-Type text/plain; charset=utf-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding 8bit
User-Agent Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.4 (gnu/linux)
X-Public-Key-ID 0xAC128405
X-Public-Key-Fingerprint 517C F14B B2F3 98B0 CB35 4855 B8B2 4C06 AC12 8405
X-Public-Key-URL http://www.benfinney.id.au/contact/bfinney-pubkey.asc
X-Post-From Ben Finney <bignose+hates-spam@benfinney.id.au>
Cancel-Lock sha1:iofJQ0IAMQptM0kHJczEMtKQe5o=
X-Mailing-List <debian-python@lists.debian.org> archive/latest/14316
List-ID <debian-python.lists.debian.org>
List-URL <https://lists.debian.org/debian-python/>
List-Archive https://lists.debian.org/msgid-search/85y4118n9b.fsf@benfinney.id.au
Approved robomod@news.nic.it
Organization linux.* mail to news gateway
Sender robomod@news.nic.it
X-Original-Date Thu, 03 Nov 2016 10:39:44 +1100
X-Original-Message-ID <85y4118n9b.fsf@benfinney.id.au>
X-Original-References <20161101102801.0350863b@subdivisions.wooz.org> <D7DAFF32-455F-4B1E-B14C-CB817B1F44F8@kitterman.com> <20161101171421.0368f9dc@subdivisions.wooz.org> <2202191.8VQVvDViSp@kitterma-e6430> <31ACB83D-3FF5-408E-BB71-8647D2FFC1CC@stufft.io> <857f8ma8s6.fsf_-_@benfinney.id.au> <20161102100853.46ecb3e2@subdivisions.wooz.org> <8537j9a545.fsf@benfinney.id.au> <20161102184836.1137cdf4@subdivisions.wooz.org>
X-Original-X-Complaints-To usenet@blaine.gmane.org
Xref csiph.com linux.debian.maint.python:8972

Show key headers only | View raw


Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> writes:

> AFAIK, there is *no* official declaration (e.g. from Guido or the
> mythical Python 4 release manager) about this either way.

In support of your position, Guido van Rossum has informally implied
version “3.10” is feasible for a future Python 3
<URL:https://twitter.com/gvanrossum/status/583346987925278720>.

I had thought GvR expressed a distaste for Semantic Versioning but can't
find it now.

So, yes, my panic is lessened :-)

> I predict that when the time comes, it'll generate a gigathread's
> worth of discussion, 3 or 4 competing PEPs, and then Guido will just
> pronounce.

Hopefully, informed by reasoned argument about consequences, more than
aesthetic preferences of a small group (I'm still sore about the process
evidenced in the Python VCS decisions, so don't wholly trust this will
be better).

-- 
 \        “With Lisp or Forth, a master programmer has unlimited power |
  `\     and expressiveness. With Python, even a regular guy can reach |
_o__)                               for the stars.” —Raymond Hettinger |
Ben Finney

Back to linux.debian.maint.python | Previous | NextPrevious in thread | Next in thread | Find similar | Unroll thread


Thread

/usr/bin/python2 shebangs Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-11-01 15:30 +0100
  Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-11-01 16:40 +0100
    Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-11-01 22:20 +0100
      Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-11-01 23:10 +0100
        Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Donald Stufft <donald@stufft.io> - 2016-11-02 01:50 +0100
          Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-11-02 02:10 +0100
          Python 4 and ‘python3’ (was:  /usr/bin/python2 shebangs) Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2016-11-02 04:00 +0100
            Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’ (was:  /usr/bin/python2 shebangs) Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-11-02 15:10 +0100
              Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’ Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2016-11-02 23:30 +0100
                Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’ Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-11-02 23:50 +0100
                Re: Python 4 and ‘python3’ Ben Finney <bignose@debian.org> - 2016-11-03 00:50 +0100
        Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2016-11-07 11:50 +0100
          Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2016-11-07 16:10 +0100
            Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Scott Kitterman <debian@kitterman.com> - 2016-11-07 16:30 +0100
              Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Thomas Goirand <zigo@debian.org> - 2016-11-09 17:10 +0100
                Re: /usr/bin/python2 shebangs Paul Wise <pabs@debian.org> - 2016-11-10 03:40 +0100

csiph-web