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Re: Removing some python3-* packages

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From	Robert Collins <robertc@robertcollins.net>
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Subject	Re: Removing some python3-* packages
Date	Tue, 25 Aug 2015 00:50:01 +0200
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On 25 August 2015 at 10:37, Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> wrote:
> On Aug 25, 2015, at 10:03 AM, Robert Collins wrote:
>
>>On 25 August 2015 at 09:57, Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> wrote:
>>...
>>>  By all means, if there isn't any
>>> significant difference between a standalone package and what's available in
>>> the current supported Python 3 version, let's not ship unnecessary binary
>>> packages.
>>
>>Even at the cost of having to patch upstream projects?
>
> Sorry, I'm not sure what the question means.

Lets take Ironic. While it supports Python 2.7+ and 3.4+ it will
depend on 'mock' for unit testing.

If Debian has only Python 2.7 and 3.5 and wants to build Ironic for
only Python 3.5 - which is a reasonable thing, then 'mock' is needed
(because Ironic depends on 'mock').

We could:
 - patch Ironic to use unittest.mock on Python 3.5
 - patch the stdlib to make 'mock' be an alias to unittest.mock
 - include 'python3-mock' as a binary package
 - not run the Ironic unit tests.

Perhaps to you 'thing we package X uses library Y' implies 'binary
package X is uncessary' - but the thing is that 'binary package X' may
not be a significant difference vs the Python version in Debian at the
time - even if there are significant differences vs older still
upstream-supported Python versions - which is what the developer
ecosystem will be referencing.

-Rob

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Robert Collins <rbtcollins@hp.com>
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Re: Removing some python3-* packages Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2015-08-19 18:50 +0200
  Re: Removing some python3-* packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-08-25 00:00 +0200
    Re: Removing some python3-* packages Robert Collins <robertc@robertcollins.net> - 2015-08-25 00:10 +0200
      Re: Removing some python3-* packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-08-25 00:40 +0200
        Re: Removing some python3-* packages Robert Collins <robertc@robertcollins.net> - 2015-08-25 00:50 +0200
          Re: Removing some python3-* packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-08-25 01:30 +0200
            Re: Removing some python3-* packages Robert Collins <robertc@robertcollins.net> - 2015-08-25 01:40 +0200
              Re: Removing some python3-* packages Barry Warsaw <barry@debian.org> - 2015-08-25 01:50 +0200
              Re: Removing some python3-* packages Thomas Kluyver <thomas@kluyver.me.uk> - 2015-08-25 01:50 +0200
                Re: Removing some python3-* packages Robert Collins <robertc@robertcollins.net> - 2015-08-25 04:00 +0200

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