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Re: Proposed Mass Bug: removal of Python standard libraries in Python 3.13

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Subject	Re: Proposed Mass Bug: removal of Python standard libraries in Python 3.13
Date	Sun, 06 Oct 2024 22:20:02 +0200
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On 2024-10-06 2 h 24 p.m., Karsten Hilbert wrote:
> Am Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 08:20:23PM +0200 schrieb Karsten Hilbert:
> 
>> Am Sun, Oct 06, 2024 at 11:51:39AM -0400 schrieb Louis-Philippe Véronneau:
>>
>>> The `uses-deprecated-python-stdlib` lintian tag finally seems to be ready. \0/
> ...
>>>     gnumed-client (U)
>>>     gnumed-server (U)
>>
>> That's a false positive. It uses mailcap, which is removed
>> in 3.13, but when it fails to import mailcap from stdlib it
>> uses its own copy.
> 
> I would, however, still be interested in what lintian says.
> 
> I may have missed a dependency ;-)

There's bound to be _some_ false positives... Considering that Lintian 
doesn't actually run any Python code and only statically analyses source 
code, weeding out packages that try to import removed libraries and do 
something else when that fails would be pretty hard to do.

In those cases, I'm sure maintainers will know better and just close the 
bugs.

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