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Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started

From	c.buhtz@posteo.jp
Newsgroups	linux.debian.maint.python
Subject	Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started
Date	2024-11-13 11:50 +0100
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Hello,

I am an upstream maintainer and ask just because I want to learn.

It was a similar case before the Debian 12 release introducing Python 
3.12 near to the freeze. Why are fresh Python releases introduced so 
early and near to the next Debian release?

This is not how I do experience Debian at all. This is not "rock solid". 
Python 3.13 is very fresh, no one needs it yet. I see no problem 
introducing it with Debian 14 in 2027.

For my project it does not matter directly. I do support 3.13. But this 
process does bind a lot of resources on Debian which could be used more 
productive into other problems.

Who decide which Python version is introduced in Debian? Isn't there a 
council for heavy decisions like this?

Regards,
Christian Buhtz

Am 13.11.2024 11:04 schrieb PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel:
> do we know how long we will have to fix all the FTBFS and autopkgtest
> before the freeze ?
> 
> I am a bit worrying for the scientific stack , will we have enough
> time to work with our upstream in order to fix all these FTBFS. In the
> scientific stack, things are going slowly....
> 
> We are not 100% of our time dedicated to Debian work... so I hope that
> it will not ruine the effort of the trixie cycle for scientific
> softwares.
> 
> moving to Python 3.12 was not that simple...
> 
> Cheers
> 
> Frédéric

Thread

Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2024-11-13 10:50 +0100
  Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2024-11-13 11:30 +0100
    Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Matthias Klose <doko@debian.org> - 2024-11-13 11:50 +0100
      Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started PICCA Frederic-Emmanuel <frederic-emmanuel.picca@synchrotron-soleil.fr> - 2024-11-13 12:10 +0100
        Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Andrey Rakhmatullin <wrar@debian.org> - 2024-11-13 12:20 +0100
    Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started c.buhtz@posteo.jp - 2024-11-13 11:50 +0100
      Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started buhtz@posteo.de - 2024-11-13 13:30 +0100
        Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2024-11-13 15:50 +0100
    Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2024-11-13 16:10 +0100
      Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Stefano Rivera <stefanor@debian.org> - 2024-11-13 16:10 +0100
  Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-12-16 03:00 +0100
    Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-12-17 14:00 +0100
      Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-12-20 04:30 +0100
        Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Julian Gilbey <julian@d-and-j.net> - 2024-12-20 10:50 +0100
    Re: Python 3.13 addition as a supported Python version started Colin Watson <cjwatson@debian.org> - 2024-12-20 04:40 +0100

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