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Re: DPT ideas to organize

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On 2024-06-14 9 h 25 a.m., Emmanuel Arias wrote:
> Hi team,
> 
> Sorry for the subject, this mail is more like questions than given ideas
> :-).
> 
> After reading the DPL's contact and its responses, it got me
> thinking - and this is also a personal feeling - that the DPT is a
> place where I can seek help. This is beneficial because we understand
> that if we encounter a Debian packaging issue specific to Python, we
> can expect a prompt response from experienced people within the team.
> 
> However, it's true that each one maintains their own packages, while
> some others fix RC bugs. But IMHO we lack like clear direction to follow
> as a team. While ultimately, we just need to ensure that the packages
> under the DPT umbrella are up-to-date with upstream and free of RC bugs as
> much as possible. I don't know if that 'direction' is needed.
> 
> I understand that our team's priority is to address 3.12 bugs [0], as
> mentioned in the irc topic. I know that some people  are already
> working on this, and they don't necessarily need to seek permission
> before tackling an RC bug. However, perhaps we could attempt to organize
> our efforts better. Maybe we could identify packages that are candidates
> for removal like [1] and try to reduce the list of RC bugs. Another
> question is: what should we do with packages that are not under the
> team's umbrella but are affecting Python 3.12?
> 
> On the other hand, we could assess if there are any improvements needed
> in our tools, such as pybuild, or determine which packages require, for
> instance, autopkgtests, lintian, etc. Or maybe we can start making short
> IRC meetings once a week or every two weeks? Experienced members
> of the team, do you think this is feasible given the DPT workflow? I
> would like to hear the opinion from the team :-)
> 
> 
> [0] https://deb.li/3T4QN
> [1] https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1025181

I agree with the points you raise. It's true the DPT isn't a very 
organised entity (although there's much worse teams in Debian :9).

I think more would be possible if we were more organised. Having regular 
meetings would surely help.

On my side though, I sadly don't have time for that. I'm already part of 
plenty of Teams in Debian (some of which do have regular meetings, like 
the DebConf Videoteam) and I only have so many spoons... If others want 
to push this way, I'll root for you!

That said, if I had more time, I would probably prioritise reviewing and 
sponsoring more DPT packages, something I haven't done in a while.

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DPT ideas to organize Emmanuel Arias <eamanu@yaerobi.com> - 2024-06-14 15:30 +0200
  Re: DPT ideas to organize Louis-Philippe Véronneau <pollo@debian.org> - 2024-06-17 08:10 +0200
    Re: DPT ideas to organize Andreas Tille <andreas@an3as.eu> - 2024-06-18 08:20 +0200
      Re: DPT ideas to organize Emmanuel Arias <eamanu@debian.org> - 2024-06-20 07:00 +0200

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