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Re: libspring-java support

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Hi,

On 03/12/2021 23:50, Markus Koschany wrote:
> Hi Sylvain,
> 
> Am Freitag, dem 03.12.2021 um 14:28 +0100 schrieb Sylvain Beucler:
>> Hi,
>>
>> This year I worked on libspring-java twice for LTS&ELTS. In both case
>> upstream provided limited information for the CVEs, and for 5 of them
>> we're unable to determine the fixes.
>> https://deb.freexian.com/extended-lts/tracker/source-package/libspring-java
>>
>> Upstream declined to provide information to identify the fixes (which in
>> turn would allow us to determine whether stretch and jessie are
>> affected, and backport the fixes if needed).
>> https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/issues/26821
>> https://github.com/spring-projects/spring-framework/issues/27647
>>
>> They made clear that they wouldn't provide this information even if
>> paid, confirming they apply a security-by-obscurity strategy similar to
>> Oracle's.
>>
>> I exchanged with the Debian security team after they witnessed the last
>> exchanges above, and 2 weeks ago they concluded the latest CVE was minor
>> and no action was needed right now. I insisted about the other, prior
>> unfixable CVEs (1/4 impacting buster) but they haven't answered yet.
>>
>> I think we're not in capacity to offer further security support for
>> libspring-java for LTS and ELTS, but I'd like to hear from other team
>> members, especially if they work in the Java team (Markus?) - what do
>> you think?
>>
>> Cheers!
>> Sylvain Beucler
>> Debian LTS Team
>>
> 
> I have made similar experiences like you when I contacted upstream and asked
> for more information about previous CVE. I agree with you that their policy
> makes future security support for us nearly impossible. Currently the main
> purpose of libspring-java is to build other software from source. We don't ship
> any application or web project that depends on Spring and exposes users to the
> currently unfixed CVE which means the current status of all CVE in
> Stretch/Buster/Bullseye (no-dsa/minor) is correct. It is also very unlikely
> that Java developers who use Spring/Spring Boot for their web applications
> depend on one of our Debian packages.
> 
> In my opinion it is OK to ignore the currently known CVE. I would support
> adding libspring-java to the list of unsupported packages because of the lack
> of upstream support. We, as the Java team, should make this clear by mentioning
> libspring-java in the next release notes for Debian 12.

Looks like Spring was marked as EOL in the security-tracker and 
debian-security-support git, but never uploaded to stretch or announced on 
debian-lts-announce (unless I missed it). I think this (as well as other 
packages recently EOL'ed) should be announced there, so users are aware. Should 
we add this to dla-needed so that someone can take care of it?

Cheers,
Emilio

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Re: libspring-java support Markus Koschany <apo@debian.org> - 2021-12-04 00:00 +0100
  Re: libspring-java support Sylvain Beucler <beuc@beuc.net> - 2022-04-01 12:10 +0200
    Re: libspring-java support Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org> - 2022-04-02 14:40 +0200
  Re: libspring-java support Emilio Pozuelo Monfort <pochu@debian.org> - 2022-04-01 12:10 +0200

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