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Re: Providing GraalVM Community Edition Debian package

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Hi Tony,

> In this case, given that Graal is GPLv2 with the CPE, it feels like we
should be building it from source.

Thanks for the comprehensive explanation. It was the very answer I needed.

Then, if I create the Debian package in the way you described(i.e., built
from the source), may I contact the mailing list again?

Best,
Dongjin

On Tue, Jul 14, 2020 at 11:26 AM tony mancill <tmancill@debian.org> wrote:

> Hello Dongjin,
>
> On Thu, Jul 09, 2020 at 06:45:43PM +0900, Dongjin Lee wrote:
> > Hello Debian Java community,
> >
> > It seems like there was a discussion about providing GraalVM community
> > edition (aka GraalVM CE) Debian package years ago, but it is still not
> > offered yet:
> >
> > https://www.mail-archive.com/debian-java@lists.debian.org/msg23951.html
> >
> > I have built and maintained GraalVM CE's Debian package (link below) and
> > hope to contribute to the community. Could anyone help me? I am a total
> > layman to Debian package maintenance.
> >
> > https://github.com/dongjinleekr/graalvm-ce-deb
> >
> > All kinds of feedbacks and advice are greatly appreciated.
>
> I took a look at the repo, which takes prebuilt binaries and creates a
> .deb from them.  This sort of binary-only package is not suitable for
> Debian "main" - the package would need to build the Graal CE compiler
> from its sources [1] in order to comply with the DFSG (Debian Free
> Software Guidelines).  Furthermore, and this can be the difficult part,
> all components in the tool chain used to compile that package must also
> be packaged for Debian and build from source within Debian.  There are
> occasionally exceptions made for bootstapping, but that's a different
> topic.
>
> Sometimes software is packaged and is available via non-free [2], but it
> is not part of Debian.  Is that what you are asking about?  In this
> case, given that Graal is GPLv2 with the CPE, it feels like we should be
> building it from source.
>
> If you are interested, here is a link to the DFSG and an excellent FAQ
> about [3,4].
>
> Cheers,
> tony
>
> [1] https://github.com/oracle/graal
> [2] https://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-archive#s-non-free
> [3] https://www.debian.org/social_contract.html#guidelines
> [4] https://people.debian.org/~bap/dfsg-faq.html
>


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