Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915

From	Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.kernel
Subject	Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915
Date	2025-07-10 18:10 +0200
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On Thu, Jul 10, 2025 at 06:52:58AM +0200, Mike Galbraith wrote:
> On Wed, 2025-07-09 at 23:09 +0300, Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > On Wed, Jul 09, 2025 at 09:44:43PM +0200, Sebastian Andrzej Siewior wrote:
> > > On 2025-07-09 20:30:26 [+0300], Ville Syrjälä wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > It seems like the critical uncore lock is currently held in a lot of
> > > > > places and potentially for a long time.
> > > > 
> > > > It shouldn't be held for that long. I think it should just be
> > > > a raw spinlock.
> > > 
> > > What about I resubmit the series and we look again? I don't think the
> > > lock should be made raw just to be done with it.
> > 
> > Until someone actually does the work to confirm the thing is working
> > reliably there's no point in posting anything.
> 
> What does that entail?

Basic testing would be something like this:
- enable CONFIG_DRM_I915_DEBUG_VBLANK_EVADE
- set i915.enable_dsb=0 to make sure everything takes the
  mmio path
- stress the heck out of it and make sure the histogram
  doesn't look significantly worse than on !RT
  (kms_atomic_transition --extended might take care of the display
  side here, but it should probably be accompanied with some
  horrendous system loads which is a less well defined part)
- ideally do that on a potato
  (some VLV/CHV (Atom) thing would probably be a good candidate)
- repeat with lockdep enabled to make everything even harder

-- 
Ville Syrjälä
Intel

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PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ben Hutchings <ben@decadent.org.uk> - 2025-07-08 21:40 +0200
  Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-09 20:00 +0200
    Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2025-07-09 22:10 +0200
      Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-09 22:40 +0200
        Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2025-07-10 08:50 +0200
        Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2025-07-10 09:00 +0200
          Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-10 17:30 +0200
            Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Sebastian Andrzej Siewior <bigeasy@linutronix.de> - 2025-07-10 17:40 +0200
              Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Maarten Lankhorst <maarten.lankhorst@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-11 15:10 +0200
        Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-10 17:40 +0200
          Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-10 20:40 +0200
        Re: PREEMPT_RT vs i915 Ville Syrjälä <ville.syrjala@linux.intel.com> - 2025-07-10 18:10 +0200

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