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Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux

From Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux
Date 2026-04-13 16:50 +0200
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On Mon, Apr 13, 2026 at 10:45:10AM +0100, Luca Boccassi wrote:
> > util-linux (specifically libmount) 2.42 and newer try to use the
> > udev database to resolve some data. This was introduced upstream in
> > this commit:
> >
> > https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/utils/util-linux/util-linux.git/commit/?h=8bdc2546d38979ca65fa9bfd1bbd6e7b985c69db
> >
> > This new code uses various sd_* symbols. As a result, libmount
> > depends on libsystemd. libmount is also used by d-i, thus libmount
> > provides a udeb.
> >
> > In #1132561 this was noticed, and I've temporarily disabled the new
> > code in src:util-linux. However, it seems like over time we will
> > need a libsystemd in d-i to satisfy such dependencies. Also the
> > util-linux packaging change to support this is fugly and I'd like to
> > remove it ASAP.
> >
> > Please provide a libsystemd udeb so libmount (and possibly other
> > things in the future) can use libsystemd.
> 
> Mmmh what is the exact use case for this specific functionality in the
> installer? It doesn't run systemd, and it will never do so, AFAIK.

TTBOMK it runs udev. I don't know the inner workings of udev etc., 
but the data is probably there?

> Adding more udebs basically is a busywork generator. Each new package
> is an unlimited, forever churn of busywork for everyone involved (d-i
> team and package team), so I think we really really really really need
> to be sure it's really needed before committing to it.

Sure, but so is running a separate no-systemd build in 
src:util-linux. The other option that I have is to disable this 
feature also in the non-udeb build.

Chris

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Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux Chris Hofstädtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2026-04-13 11:10 +0200
  Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux Chris Hofstaedtler <zeha@debian.org> - 2026-04-13 16:50 +0200
  Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2026-04-14 10:30 +0200
    Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> - 2026-04-14 11:20 +0200
      Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux Cyril Brulebois <kibi@debian.org> - 2026-04-14 12:00 +0200
        Bug#1133417: Provide libsystemd udeb for util-linux Samuel Thibault <sthibault@debian.org> - 2026-04-14 13:10 +0200

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