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Bug#1132024: Add insserv-bin binary package with /usr/libexec/insserv for easily creating Hurd chroots

From Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org>
Newsgroups linux.debian.bugs.dist
Subject Bug#1132024: Add insserv-bin binary package with /usr/libexec/insserv for easily creating Hurd chroots
Date 2026-03-27 23:40 +0100
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Hi Mark,

Quoting Mark Hindley (2026-03-27 20:49:05)
> On Fri, Mar 27, 2026 at 08:54:49AM +0100, Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues
> wrote:
> > This is not possible if the system on the outside has systemd installed
> > because that conflicts with insserv and according to Michael Biebl this is
> > not going to change.
> 
> My preference is that the systemd conflicts with insserv should be removed. You
> have a reasonable usage case for coinstalling insserv with systemd.  The
> conflicts also causes autopkgest failures on ci.d.o for startpar, openrc and
> insserv itself as systemd cannot be uninstalled from the autopkgtest testbed.
> 
> The conflicts was added to avoid interactions between systemd, initscripts and
> insserv, however support for LSB initscripts in systemd has now been removed and
> I find it unlikely that #1072562 or similar would still be issue even if
> initscripts and insserv were installed on a systemd system. If I am wrong in
> my analysis here, I would be happy to be pointed to a reproducer for such an
> issue.

do you want to bring this up with systemd maintainers? I'm not sure whether I
have enough energy right now to challenge the strong position on that topic
which I felt Michael Biebl seems to have when we talked in #debian-devel about
that topic.

Thanks!

cheers, josch

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Bug#1132024: Add insserv-bin binary package with /usr/libexec/insserv for easily creating Hurd chroots Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2026-03-27 09:00 +0100
  Bug#1132024: Add insserv-bin binary package with /usr/libexec/insserv for easily creating Hurd chroots Mark Hindley <mark@hindley.org.uk> - 2026-03-27 21:00 +0100
    Bug#1132024: Add insserv-bin binary package with /usr/libexec/insserv for easily creating Hurd chroots Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2026-03-27 23:40 +0100
    Bug#1132024: Add insserv-bin binary package with /usr/libexec/insserv for easily creating Hurd chroots Johannes Schauer Marin Rodrigues <josch@debian.org> - 2026-03-28 07:40 +0100

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