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Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms

From	Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org>
Newsgroups	linux.debian.bugs.dist, linux.debian.devel
Subject	Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms
Date	2025-07-24 02:50 +0200
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On Wed, Jul 23, 2025 at 06:40:39PM -0500, Aaron Rainbolt wrote:
>Who says we can't build anything against it though?

Anyone using common sense, IMO.

>Big, security-sensitive packages can't use it, but other programs might 
>end up needing it in the future for non-security-sensitive things.

A non-security-sensitive application that needs PQC vs existing 
widely available encryption algorithms? Do you have any plausible 
example of this? "Might maybe needs this someday" isn't very compelling.

>Plus, "the source is more useful and easily obtained elsewhere" doesn't 
>work when dependencies in a stable release of Debian may not be new 
>enough to build the latest version of things. `sudo apt install 
>liboqs-dev` is orders of magnitude easier than `git clone ...; # figure 
>out the right version to check out, possibly by trial and error; # 
>figure out the actually needed build dependencies, may need trial and 
>error here too; configure; make`.

Do you have actual examples of applications which need to use an 
obsolete version of this (let's be honest, security sensitive) library 
which is declared to be unstable? And the concern is that the library 
will evolve to not build on stable debian, but the application will not? 
This smells a lot more like rationalizing than addressing practical 
concerns.

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Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Hector Oron Martinez <zumbi@debian.org> - 2025-07-22 09:50 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Andrius Merkys <andrius.merkys@gmail.com> - 2025-07-22 10:20 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2025-07-22 11:30 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-07-22 11:30 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2025-07-23 06:50 +0200
    Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2025-07-23 13:10 +0200
      Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2025-07-23 18:40 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-07-23 13:00 +0200
    Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Hector Oron <zumbi@debian.org> - 2025-07-23 13:20 +0200
      Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-07-23 13:40 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-07-24 00:00 +0200
    Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2025-07-24 19:20 +0200
      Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-07-25 10:20 +0200
        Re: Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe  cryptographic algorithms Andreas Metzler <ametzler@bebt.de> - 2025-07-25 19:20 +0200
          Re: Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe  cryptographic algorithms Simon Josefsson <simon@josefsson.org> - 2025-07-26 10:00 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-07-24 01:20 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-07-24 02:50 +0200
  Bug#1109697: ITP: liboqs -- library for quantum-safe cryptographic algorithms Michael Stone <mstone@debian.org> - 2025-07-24 03:40 +0200

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