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Re: c++17 - paper approvati

From 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid>
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Subject Re: c++17 - paper approvati
Date 2016-10-14 21:23 +0100
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On 14/10/2016 21:16, fmassei@gmail.com wrote:

[...]
> Mai detto "no Java, per carità",

Be`, hai detto che "grazie al cielo", ne stai lontano. Forse ho 
frainteso, ma mi sembrava che stessi attribuendo a Java/C# dei difetti 
intrinsechi per i quali starne alla larga, e siccome non trovo nei 
problemi che hai elencato una conferma di quei difetti...

> E' ovvio quello che dici, che una VM è "un ambiente di esecuzione del codice
> come un altro" ma, per forza di cose, deve essere più complesso dell'ambiente di
> esecuzione nativo. Tutto qui.

Perche`? In che senso una JVM sarebbe "piu` complessa" rispetto, ad 
esempio, ad un sistema Windows/Linux/multi-core di esecuzione codice 
C++? Tu parli di spostare la "complessita`". Il punto non e` che il C++ 
e` oggettivamente piu` complesso di Java e C#, e non perche` Java e C# 
siano VM-based.

> Come detto prima, anche se non ti piace la parola, tutto è un compromesso ;)

Ma non capisco dove sia il "compromesso", su Java/C#. Boh.

-- 
4ndre4

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  Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-03-25 08:55 -0700
    Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-03-25 18:31 -0600
      Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-03-27 20:56 -0700
        Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-03-28 08:12 -0600
          Re: c++17 - paper approvati LutherBlissett <LutherBlissett@email.invalid> - 2016-03-31 09:17 +0200
            Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-03-31 07:22 -0600
              Re: c++17 - paper approvati CortexA57 <CortexA57@ch.invalid> - 2016-04-01 10:23 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-04-01 07:51 -0600
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati CortexA57 <CortexA57@ch.invalid> - 2016-04-04 17:02 +0200
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-04-06 08:19 -0500
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-13 22:29 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-13 14:55 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-13 23:39 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-13 15:56 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-14 00:30 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-13 17:12 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-14 07:45 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 10:18 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 11:14 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 11:30 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-14 19:36 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 11:53 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 20:24 -0500
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 11:50 -0500
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 20:11 -0500
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-15 19:35 -0500
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-13 20:21 -0500
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-14 11:59 +0200
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 10:39 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-14 18:54 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 11:10 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 11:49 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 15:43 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 16:38 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-15 01:16 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati a.laforgia@gmail.com - 2017-02-01 07:26 -0800
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 12:09 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 11:59 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-14 20:04 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 11:16 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-14 23:01 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 15:04 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 12:06 +0200
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-14 20:14 -0500
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 14:26 +0200
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-16 10:44 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-16 22:21 -0500
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-17 11:45 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-10-17 12:33 -0500
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-14 23:10 +0200
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 14:32 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-15 18:46 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 12:05 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-15 18:25 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 15:09 -0700
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 12:15 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-14 23:17 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-14 23:27 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-15 00:09 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 12:18 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-15 18:19 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 18:37 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati 4ndre4 <626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920@626401fd-4bc7-4f8f-b641-563ae0f72920.invalid> - 2016-10-14 22:56 +0100
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-15 00:43 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 15:54 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati fmassei@gmail.com - 2016-10-14 16:22 -0700
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                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-14 23:06 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati acc <email@farlocca.it> - 2016-10-14 23:55 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati Enrico Maria Giordano <e.m.giordano@emagsoftware.it> - 2016-10-15 11:54 +0200
              Re: c++17 - paper approvati LutherBlissett <LutherBlissett@email.invalid> - 2016-04-15 10:16 +0200
                Re: c++17 - paper approvati enoquick <enoquick@gmail.com> - 2016-04-16 09:43 -0500
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