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Re: Integer Overflow in braces

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On Monday, August 17, 2015 04:15:50 PM Eric Blake wrote:
> On 08/17/2015 09:58 AM, Pasha K wrote:
> > Hey Greg,
> > 
> > I wasn't particularly trying to actually generate that large amount of
> > strings in memory, I wa purposely trying to overflow the integer variable
> > "nelem"hoping to get Code Execution. This could potentially be a security
> > risk as shell shock was just more of a denial of service rather than
> > straight up code execution. However, just because I wasn't able to gain
> > control of the registers doesn't mean someone else with more skill can't.
> 
> This is not a security risk.
> 
> Shell shock was a security hole because the shell could be coerced into
> executing user-supplied code WITHOUT a way for a script to intervene.
> 
> Any poorly-written shell script can do stupid things, including crashing
> bash because it overflows the heap by trying to allocate memory for such
> a stupidly large expansion.  But unless the problem can be triggered
> without a script (the way shell shock executed user code before even
> starting to parse a script), then you can't exploit the problem to gain
> any more access to the system than you already have by being able to run
> a script in the first place.
> 
> Fix your script to not do stupid things, like trying an insanely-large
> brace expansion, or trying an 'eval' (or similar) on untrusted user
> input. But don't call it a bash security hole that bash allows you to
> write stupid scripts.
> 
> 

IMHO the issue of whether the integer is allowed to overflow is separate from 
the question of whether the resulting expansion is "too big". Code that does 
an `eval "blah{0..$n}"` is reasonably common and not necessarily stupid. 
-- 
Dan Douglas

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