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Re: Should $(fg) resume a stopped job?

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Subject Re: Should $(fg) resume a stopped job?
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On 7/31/20 12:43 PM, Oğuz wrote:

>     Maybe a minor bug, but certainly a choice. The command substitution keeps
>     the jobs list around, since the subshell is supposed to be an exact copy of
>     the parent, and it's useful to get the output of `jobs' out of command
>     substitution.
> 
>     You just can't expect to do anything with any of those jobs, since the
>     command substitution shell is not the parent of any of them. It would
>     make sense to have `fg' complain about that.
> 
> 
> Right, it would. bosh behaves the same way as bash btw.

Behavior is mixed. I put in something that should produce an error when you
try to use `fg' or `bg' in a command substitution without having done
anything to enable job control first.

Chet

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