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Re: file access time and file modification time

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Hi Mischa,

On Tue, 09 Jul 2019 09:05:45 +0200
Mischa Baars <mjbaars1977.bug-bash@cyberfiber.eu> wrote:

> Hi Kerin,
> 
> That indeed solves the problem in 'accesstime.sh', although I would recommend some sort of reference from the bash manpage to the mount manpage.
> 
> Did you have a look at the 'conditional.sh' script too? Looks like the '-N' switch compares only the integer part of the timestamp seconds.

The stat structure supports timestamp fields of nanosecond granularity since POSIX.1-2008, so it should work. I tried a simple test case here, and the behaviour of -N seems generally broken:

# f=$(mktemp); [[ -N $f ]]; echo $?; touch -m "$f"; [[ -N $f ]]; echo $?
0
0

I expected the value of $? to be non-zero at first, followed by 0 after updating the mtime. Using the test command that ships with GNU coreutils (v8.31) exhibits the same problem:

# f=$(mktemp); command test -N "$f"; echo $?; touch -m "$f"; command test -N "$f"; echo $?
0
0

That was with ext4 as the filesystem backing the TMPDIR. I also tested FreeBSD/UFS, with the same results, even if sleeping one second before updating the mtime. Perhaps Chet would be so kind as to clarify what's going on here. In the meantime, your technique of comparing the timestamps lexicographically seems like a good workaround, although you should use [[ instead. For example:

# check() { local at=$(stat -c %x "$1") mt=$(stat -c %y "$1"); [[ $mt > $at ]]; }
# f=$(mktemp); check "$f"; echo $?; touch -m "$f"; check "$f"; echo $?
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Kerin Millar <kfm@plushkava.net>

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