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Re: Canal+ crash

From "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de>
Newsgroups fr.comp.lang.ada, comp.lang.ada
Subject Re: Canal+ crash
Date 2024-07-21 09:22 +0200
Organization A noiseless patient Spider
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On 2024-07-21 03:04, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 11:08:47 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
> 
>> On 2024-07-20 09:43, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
>>
>>> On Sat, 20 Jul 2024 09:23:11 +0200, Dmitry A. Kazakov wrote:
>>>
>>>> It is about the fundamental principle that security cannot be added on
>>>> top of an insecure system.
>>>
>>> Actually, it can. Notice how the Internet itself is horribly insecure,
>>> yet we are capable of running secure applications and protocols on top
>>> of it.
>>
>> Why on earth do we need security updates?
> 
> Because computer systems are complex, and new bugs keep being discovered
> all the time.

This does not make sense. You can create a very complex system out of 
screwdrivers and still each screwdriver would require no update.

Systems consist of computers and computers of software modules. There is 
nothing inherently complex about making a module safe and bug free. 
Security interactions are primitive and 100% functional. There is no 
difficult issues with non-functional stuff like real-time problems. It 
is purely algorithmic while all mathematical complexity of cryptography 
is NOT what gets updated. It is complex only because it was designed as 
a Wood Block Tumbling Game.

>> Do you update your screwdriver each week?
> 
> I don’t depend on my screwdriver to keep my bank account secure.

I don't need a bank account to fasten the screws. Application area is 
irrelevant.

-- 
Regards,
Dmitry A. Kazakov
http://www.dmitry-kazakov.de

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