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Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds

From "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk>
Newsgroups england.genealogy.misc, england.history.misc, soc.genealogy.britain, alt.history, soc.history, alt.genealogy
Subject Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds
Date 2015-10-24 08:04 +0100
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In message <0m4m2blnpj3el62hehob679o1danln696u@4ax.com>, Steve Hayes 
<hayesstw@telkomsa.net> writes:
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>A new genetic map of Britain shows that there has been little movement
>between areas of Britain which were former tribal kingoms in
>Anglo-Saxon England
[]
>The ‘People of the British Isles’ study analysed the DNA of 2,039
>people from rural areas of the UK, whose four grandparents were all
>born within 80km of each other.
>
>Because a quarter of our genome comes from each of our grandparents,
>the researchers were effectively sampling DNA from these ancestors,
>allowing a snapshot of UK genetics in the late 19th Century before
>mass migration events caused by the industrial revolution.
[]
Thanks for posting this; interesting.

Although the Telegraph's analysis - though it left the second two 
paragraphs above in - seems to have ignored them; by limiting its focus 
to those whose grandparents were all born within 80 km of each other, it 
is obviously biased to immobility. The general thrust of the article is 
that we haven't moved much for 14 centuries; however, a better summary 
would be that _up to the late 19th century_ we hadn't moved much. Still 
interesting, especially the fact that Viking, Saxon, and Roman (genetic) 
influence is only moderate, but not particularly startling to 
genealogists: anyone who has done much research in the field will have 
already discovered that people before even up to the end of the 
nineteenth century often lived their entire lives within a few miles of 
where they were born.

It would be interesting to have another study taken without the 
restriction, to see how things _have_ changed since "mass migration".

In my own researches, I had assumed the coming of the railways in the 
mid to late 19C would have led to much greater migration around the 
country; however, I've found the effect was much less than I'd expected. 
Still, when doing research for work colleagues (at Rochester in Kent), I 
find quite a lot of them are from local areas.
-- 
J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

My daughter is appalled by it at all times, but you know you have to appal
your 14-year-old daughter otherwise you're not doing your job as a father. -
Richard Osman to Alison Graham, in Radio Times 2013-6-8 to 14

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Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-10-24 07:16 +0200
  Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-24 08:04 +0100
    Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-10-24 09:29 +0200
      Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds "J. P. Gilliver (John)" <G6JPG@soft255.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-24 09:12 +0100
        Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-24 09:45 +0100
          Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds Steve Hayes <hayesstw@telkomsa.net> - 2015-10-24 14:02 +0200
    Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds Ian Goddard <goddai01@hotmail.co.uk> - 2015-10-24 21:35 +0100
  Re: Britons still live in Anglo-Saxon tribal kingdoms, Oxford University finds Graeme Wall <rail@greywall.demon.co.uk> - 2015-10-24 08:37 +0100

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