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Re: -20°C

From Carla Schneider <carla_sch@protonmail.com>
Newsgroups de.sci.ing.elektrotechnik, de.sci.electronics, de.soc.politik.misc
Subject Re: -20°C
Date 2023-05-02 16:30 +0200
Organization Gurken & Wasserstoff
Message-ID <64511E9D.CAB1821E@protonmail.com> (permalink)
References (10 earlier) <u2bnud$1fn2f$1@dont-email.me> <u2buu7$1gd4b$2@dont-email.me> <644A0B46.3B2D726C@protonmail.com> <kbbr2mFj4rhU1@mid.individual.net> <6450EEC2.F964D1F5@Berger-Odenthal.De>

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Axel Berger wrote:
> 
> Thomas Heger wrote:
> > Damit das funktioniert muss der Prozess aber deutlich mehr als 100%
> > Energie-Effizienz besessen haben.
> 
> Du sagst es. Nach der bisherigen Erfahrung sind Deine Schlüsse aus
> diesem Satz aber andere als unsere.
> 
> Mein eigenes Wasserauto fährt leider nicht. Für ein Einzelstück
> beherrsche ich die Fertigungstechnik nicht gut genug und einer Serie mit
> der Hilfe von Fachleuten steht Meyers Patent entgegen. Da muß ich weiter
> Erdöl verfeuern, leider.

Das Patent ist nur fuer die USA, in Deutschland wird nur patentiert was
auch funktionieren kann, insbesondere Perpetuum Mobile nicht.

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