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Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages

From Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com>
Newsgroups comp.unix.shell, comp.unix.programmer, comp.lang.misc
Subject Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages
Date 2024-03-29 17:58 +0000
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On 2024-03-29, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 17:13:47 -0000 (UTC)
> Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> wrote:
>>On 2024-03-29, Muttley@dastardlyhq.com <Muttley@dastardlyhq.com> wrote:
>>> On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 08:44:54 -0700
>>> John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>On Fri, 29 Mar 2024 09:55:33 -0000 (UTC)
>>>>Muttley@dastardlyhq.com wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> My rule of thimb is that a scripting language is one whereby the
>>>>> source code can be run immediately by the interpreter, eg perl,
>>>>> python, regardless of what happens internally. A full fledged
>>>>> programming language is one that requires a compile/debug/link step
>>>>> first with the compiler and runtime (if required) being seperate. eg
>>>>> Java, C
>>>>
>>>>By *that* logic, even Lisp and Forth don't count as "full-fledged
>>>>programming languages" o_O Johanne's definition of a "scripting
>>>
>>> As a counter point, good luck writing a device driver in lisp.
>>
>>The Lisp machines had operating systems and device drivers written in
>>Lisp, interrupt-driven and all.  Where do you perceive the difficulty?
>
> Were the mucky bits actually written in Lisp or was Lisp simply calling some
> routines written in assembler?

Sorry, could you demarcate where exactly the goalposts are? Which mucky
bits?

In kernels written in C, there are mucky bits in assembler, like
entry and exit into an trap/interrupt handler.  You usually can't save
the machine state in an interrupt handler without some instruction that
is of no use in general code generation, not to mention detailed access
to all the working registers that are not normally manipulated from the
HLL.

Yes, the mucky bits of communicating with the device, like passing
frames to and from an ethernet card, would be written in Lisp.

Assembly routines in Lisps, though not Lisp, can at least be written
in Lisp notation and assembled within Lisp.

In machine-compiled Lisps, there is the possibility of inline code,
like in C or other languages.

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        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-03-30 19:32 +0100
          Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-03-30 20:19 +0000
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-03-29 17:12 +0000
  Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-03-29 08:09 -0300
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-29 12:36 +0100
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-03-29 21:06 +0000
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-03-29 21:24 -0300
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-03-30 01:11 +0000
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-03-29 21:17 -0300
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-03-30 11:28 +0100
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2024-03-30 13:37 +0000
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-03-30 19:25 +0000
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2024-03-30 21:48 +0000
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 11:15 -0700
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-04-01 19:42 +0000
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 13:25 -0700
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-02 00:20 +0000
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages James Kuyper <jameskuyper@alumni.caltech.edu> - 2024-04-02 05:13 -0400
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 13:44 -0700
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 14:30 -0700
          Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-04-01 22:40 +0000
            Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-04-02 15:30 +0000
              Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-02 08:43 -0700
                Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-04-02 16:09 +0000
                Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-04-02 18:50 +0000
            Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Richard Kettlewell <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-03 15:45 +0100
              Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-04-03 16:56 +0000
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-04-01 15:56 -0700
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-02 00:19 +0000
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-01 21:43 +0000
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-07 00:01 +0000
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-07 02:02 +0000
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-04-06 20:46 -0700
          Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-04-12 15:55 +0200
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-08 07:55 -0700
        Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-08 17:54 +0000
          Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-08 22:21 +0000
          Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-04-12 15:48 +0200
            I did not inhale (Was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-04-12 14:13 +0000
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                Re: I did not inhale (Was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) Janis Papanagnou <janis_papanagnou+ng@hotmail.com> - 2024-04-15 14:28 +0200
              Re: I did not inhale (Was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-04-12 16:52 +0000
                Re: I did not inhale Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-04-12 20:52 -0300
                Re: I did not inhale Johanne Fairchild <jfairchild@tudado.org> - 2024-04-13 08:17 -0300
                Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-13 21:54 +0000
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              Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) Blue-Maned_Hawk <bluemanedhawk@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-15 12:43 +0000
                Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-15 22:12 +0000
                Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-15 15:29 -0700
                Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-15 22:58 +0000
                Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-16 10:14 +0200
                Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 08:35 +0000
                Re: on Perl (was: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages) David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-16 11:35 +0200
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                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 14:51 +0000
                Re: on Perl candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-04-16 15:10 +0000
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 15:42 +0000
                Re: on Perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-17 02:44 +0000
                Re: on Perl Andreas Eder <a_eder_muc@web.de> - 2024-04-17 07:34 +0200
                Re: on Perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-17 06:44 +0000
                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-17 11:27 +0200
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-17 07:55 -0700
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                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-17 21:52 +0200
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-17 13:39 -0700
                Re: on Perl Kaz Kylheku <643-408-1753@kylheku.com> - 2024-04-18 04:18 +0000
                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-18 10:30 +0200
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                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-18 11:31 +0200
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                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 14:49 +0000
                Re: on Perl scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) - 2024-04-16 15:01 +0000
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 15:26 +0000
                Re: on Perl Chris Elvidge <chris@mshome.net> - 2024-04-16 16:42 +0100
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 15:43 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-16 08:49 -0700
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 15:51 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-16 08:59 -0700
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-16 16:13 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-16 09:18 -0700
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-17 08:22 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-17 07:59 -0700
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-17 16:15 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-17 09:55 -0700
                Re: on Perl D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-17 23:05 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-18 07:35 +0000
                Re: on Perl D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-18 11:28 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-18 15:37 +0000
                Re: on Perl D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-18 20:59 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-19 08:57 +0000
                Re: on Perl D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-19 22:40 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-20 08:58 +0000
                Re: on Perl D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-20 12:40 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-20 10:52 +0000
                Re: on Perl D <nospam@example.net> - 2024-04-20 21:00 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-18 07:33 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-18 10:16 -0700
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-19 08:57 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-19 16:08 -0700
                Re: on Perl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-04-20 01:48 +0000
                Re: on Perl John Ames <commodorejohn@gmail.com> - 2024-04-24 08:36 -0700
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-20 08:59 +0000
                Re: on Perl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-04-16 18:11 +0000
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-17 08:23 +0000
                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-17 11:36 +0200
                Re: on Perl Muttley@dastardlyhq.com - 2024-04-17 10:21 +0000
                Re: on Perl gazelle@shell.xmission.com (Kenny McCormack) - 2024-04-16 18:09 +0000
                Re: on Perl "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-16 12:05 -0400
                Re: on Perl "David W. Hodgins" <dwhodgins@nomail.afraid.org> - 2024-04-16 12:25 -0400
                Re: on Perl Christian Weisgerber <naddy@mips.inka.de> - 2024-04-16 19:59 +0000
                Re: on Perl Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-04-16 13:36 -0700
                Re: on Perl candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-04-16 16:10 +0000
                Re: on Perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-17 02:45 +0000
                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-17 11:44 +0200
                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-17 11:30 +0200
                Re: on Perl candycanearter07 <candycanearter07@candycanearter07.nomail.afraid> - 2024-04-18 15:10 +0000
                Re: on Perl David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-04-18 21:55 +0200
                Re: on Perl Javier <invalid@invalid.invalid> - 2024-04-16 20:47 +0000
                Re: on Perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-17 03:14 +0000
                Re: on Perl Ben Bacarisse <ben.usenet@bsb.me.uk> - 2024-04-17 18:04 +0100
                Re: on Perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-17 23:23 +0000
                Re: on Perl Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-04-17 16:59 -0700
                Re: on Perl Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-04-18 01:33 +0000
                Re: on Perl Rainer Weikusat <rweikusat@talktalk.net> - 2024-04-18 18:09 +0100
  Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages David Brown <david.brown@hesbynett.no> - 2024-03-29 13:47 +0100
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2024-03-29 20:36 +0000
  Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2024-03-30 12:44 +0100
    Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages Keith Thompson <Keith.S.Thompson+u@gmail.com> - 2024-03-30 14:28 -0700
      Re: Command Languages Versus Programming Languages "Dmitry A. Kazakov" <mailbox@dmitry-kazakov.de> - 2024-03-31 22:06 +0200

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