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On 18/05/18 09:22, N. Raghavendra wrote:
> At 2018-05-17T22:51:30+01:00, Peter Flynn wrote:
> 
>> I have been trying to make it clear for some time that nXML is *not* an
>> editor suitable for writing XML documents.
> 
> Well, it is a part of Emacs, and I have read good things about it, as in
[...]
> Therefore, I thought it was reasonable to use it for editing XML.

Yes, it's very good, but it's not suitable for authoring or editing text
documents because it lacks some of the basic controls editors need.

> If one wants to publish a book with a commercial publisher, one may have
> to use a DTD.  

Probably not; publishers don't normally accept XML from authors,
precisely because there are as yet no editing interfaces for structured
documents suitable for use by non-XML-experts. Advanced XML editors like
oXygen are getting there, but still need too much foreknowledge. See
https://cora.ucc.ie/handle/10468/1690 for the gory details.

> However, I am planning to release my work under a combination of the
> Gnu FDL and the GNU GPL, so I will have to take care of the
> publishing myself, whatever "publishing" may mean here (it will 
> certainly include putting the product on a public Web site).
That's very generous of you.

> Given that, I have considered two schemas, the DocBook schema, and
> the `mathbook' schema (http://mathbook.pugetsound.edu/). Both of them
> use RELAX NG as their primary schema language. However, neither of
> these schemas really suits my needs, so I am trying to write a simple
> schema that will do for me.

The problem with "simple" schemas is that they rapidly become
complicated. Norm Walsh put this more succinctly in his presentation on
Underlying Technologies in the XML in Publishing track at the 2016 XML
Summer School:

>> Where do vocabularies come from?
>> 
>> • Adopt — Take your pick: XHTML, DocBook, JATS, TEI, DITA, …
>> • Adapt — Take one of the former, adapt to your needs.
>> • Build your own (tl;dr: don’t)

(tl;dr = Too Long; Didn't Read)

> PS: Thanks also for the book `Understanding SGML and XML tools'. I
> have often found it a useful reference.

I'm delighted it's still useful. Sadly, we have lost some of the very
good software that I reviewed, including stand-alone graphical
DTD/Schema design packages.

///Peter

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