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At 2018-05-18T20:56:47+01:00, Peter Flynn wrote:

> Yes, it's very good, but it's not suitable for authoring or editing text
> documents because it lacks some of the basic controls editors need.

Thanks for the advice.  I have decided to try PSGML mode again, after a
long gap.  I see that the maintainers of the ELPA version have removed
`psgml-ids.el', which seemed useful, for copyright reasons, and have
replaced it with other functions.  I hope there is no problem with that.
Anyway, I'll find out once I start using it again.  I found xxml mode on
GitHub, and will load it after PSGML.

> See https://cora.ucc.ie/handle/10468/1690 for the gory details.

Thank you for the link to your thesis.  I have downloaded both the PDF
and the EPUB renditions of it.  There seems to be a wealth of
interesting material in it, and I'll dip into it slowly.

> The problem with "simple" schemas is that they rapidly become
> complicated. Norm Walsh put this more succinctly in his presentation on
> Underlying Technologies in the XML in Publishing track at the 2016 XML
> Summer School:
>
>>> Where do vocabularies come from?
>>>
>>> • Adopt — Take your pick: XHTML, DocBook, JATS, TEI, DITA, …
>>> • Adapt — Take one of the former, adapt to your needs.
>>> • Build your own (tl;dr: don’t)

That seems sage advice.  Let me explain where I am coming from.  I am
partway through a writing project which will occupy a large part of my
time in the next few years.  I am a mathematician, and the subject of my
writing project is some recent work on the foundations of mathematics.
The products of the project will be a collection of "volumes" on the
subject.  There will be cross-references between these volumes.  Part of
the product will be code in the language of the proof assistant Coq.
I will have to include delimited snippets of the code in the text.

I could have used LaTeX; I have been using it for the last 28 years,
since the time I was a graduate student, for all my mathematical
writing, and am absolutely comfortable with it, like most mathematicians
are.  However, I have always chafed at its non-semantic aspect.  I have
tried to work with ConTeXT during the last one year, but I found it hard
to write with, because its documentation is sketchy, and its code
changes fast, sometimes in a backward incompatible way.

I have some experience with DocBook, but, for my current purpose, it has
too many elements that are irrelevant.  As a result, it seems too
elaborate.  I have looked at JATS and BITS too, and again felt that they
are too elaborate.

In any case, I have to extend these schemas, to incorporate numbered
statements like "Definition", "Lemma", "Proposition", "Theorem",
"Corollary", and, "Remark", for which I usually use the LaTeX package
`ntheorem'.  I also need XML equivalents of the `amsmath' equation
environments, such as `eqnarray', and `split'.  Things like `cases',
too.  For the mathematics itself, I am planning to use LaTeX markup,
which in the HTML rendition, will be displayed using MathJaX.

I found the work of the `mathbook' project

http://mathbook.pugetsound.edu/

very relevant to my work; they deal with many of the above issues.
However, their schema too seems to be evolving, sometimes in a backward
incompatible manner, as a result of which, I cannot depend on it.

That is the background to my current notion that I have to write my own
schema.

Thanks again for your thought-provoking message.

Raghu.

--
N. Raghavendra <raghu@hri.res.in>, http://www.retrotexts.net/
Harish-Chandra Research Institute, http://www.hri.res.in/

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