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  Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-18 20:04 +0000
    Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-18 20:15 +0000
      Re: Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-19 03:22 +0000
        Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-19 16:53 +0000
        Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-02-20 15:50 -0400
    Re: Titles in lxterminal Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-02-19 00:43 +0000
      Re: Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-19 03:47 +0000
        Re: Titles in lxterminal Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-02-19 16:01 +0000
          Re: Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-19 16:54 +0000
            Re: Titles in lxterminal Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-02-19 17:52 +0000
            Re: Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-22 00:21 +0000
              Re: Titles in lxterminal Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> - 2026-02-23 10:26 +0000
                Re: Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-23 18:18 +0000
                  Re: Titles in lxterminal druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2026-02-23 23:46 +0000
                    Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-25 19:45 +0000
                      Re: Titles in lxterminal druck <news@druck.org.uk> - 2026-02-25 20:42 +0000
                        Re: Titles in lxterminal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-25 22:28 +0000
                          Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-27 16:29 +0000
                        Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-27 16:29 +0000
          Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-19 16:57 +0000
      Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-02-20 15:42 -0400
        Re: Titles in lxterminal Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-02-20 20:49 +0000
          Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-02-25 21:33 -0400
            Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-27 16:24 +0000
              Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-02-27 19:57 -0400
                Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-02-28 11:28 +0000
                  Re: Titles in lxterminal Lawrence D’Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> - 2026-02-28 22:15 +0000
                  Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-02-28 22:06 -0400
                    Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> - 2026-03-01 11:39 +0000
              Re: Titles in lxterminal Jim Diamond <zsd@jdvb.ca> - 2026-03-02 21:16 -0400
    Re: Titles in lxterminal Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2026-02-19 16:24 +0000
      Re: Titles in lxterminal bp@www.zefox.net - 2026-02-19 17:03 +0000
        Re: Titles in lxterminal Gordon Henderson <gordon+usenet@drogon.net> - 2026-02-19 20:06 +0000
          Re: Titles in lxterminal Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> - 2026-02-19 22:55 +0000

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#37765 — Titles in lxterminal

From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.

One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
and hostname.

Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
which I'm unable to intuit.

Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?

Thanks for reading,

bob prohaska

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#37766

On 2026-02-18, bp@www.zefox.net <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
> From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
>
> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
> and hostname.
>
> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
> which I'm unable to intuit.
>
> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?
>
> Thanks for reading,
>
> bob prohaska
>

You need to write the string ESC]0;Title^G  to the terminal.

I have this in a little script called xtn which does this.

To generate ESC in bash use ^V^[   where '^' is holding down the control key.
^G is done like wise. You will have to wrap the strings in quotes

e.g.  echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"

good luck. I've just done this in LXTerminal with bash as my shell.

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#37768

Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:
> On 2026-02-18, bp@www.zefox.net <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>> From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
>> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
>>
>> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
>> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
>> and hostname.
>>
>> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
>> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
>> which I'm unable to intuit.
>>
>> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?
>>
>> Thanks for reading,
>>
>> bob prohaska
>>
> 
> You need to write the string ESC]0;Title^G  to the terminal.
> 
> I have this in a little script called xtn which does this.
> 
> To generate ESC in bash use ^V^[   where '^' is holding down the control key.
> ^G is done like wise. You will have to wrap the strings in quotes
> 
> e.g.  echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"
> 
> good luck. I've just done this in LXTerminal with bash as my shell.

It doesn't seem to do much of anything in my case. Here's a transcript:
bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo $TERM
xterm-256color
bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"
^[]0;^Gbob@raspberrypi:~$ 
bob@raspberrypi:~$

I was hoping to see the title change, but no luck. As you might
guess, my fluency with shells is abysmal. I use them only in a
very simple-minded way, usually to type single commands.

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska

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#37773

On 2026-02-19, bp@www.zefox.net <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
> Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 2026-02-18, bp@www.zefox.net <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>>> From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
>>> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
>>>
>>> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
>>> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
>>> and hostname.
>>>
>>> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
>>> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
>>> which I'm unable to intuit.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?
>>>
>>> Thanks for reading,
>>>
>>> bob prohaska
>>>
>> 
>> You need to write the string ESC]0;Title^G  to the terminal.
>> 
>> I have this in a little script called xtn which does this.
>> 
>> To generate ESC in bash use ^V^[   where '^' is holding down the control key.
>> ^G is done like wise. You will have to wrap the strings in quotes
>> 
>> e.g.  echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"
>> 
>> good luck. I've just done this in LXTerminal with bash as my shell.
>
> It doesn't seem to do much of anything in my case. Here's a transcript:
> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo $TERM
> xterm-256color
> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"
> ^[]0;^Gbob@raspberrypi:~$ 
> bob@raspberrypi:~$

Did you type '^' then '['? Instead you should type ctl-V Ctl-[
and the same for for the other control character.

It worked for me in lxterminal and the $TERM was identical to yours.

>
> I was hoping to see the title change, but no luck. As you might
> guess, my fluency with shells is abysmal. I use them only in a
> very simple-minded way, usually to type single commands.
>
> Thanks for writing!
>
> bob prohaska
>
>

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#37781

On 2026-02-18 at 23:22 AST, bp@www.zefox.net <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
> Jim Jackson <jj@franjam.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 2026-02-18, bp@www.zefox.net <bp@www.zefox.net> wrote:
>>> From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
>>> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.

>>> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
>>> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
>>> and hostname.

>>> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
>>> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
>>> which I'm unable to intuit.

>>> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?

>>> Thanks for reading,

>>> bob prohaska


>> You need to write the string ESC]0;Title^G  to the terminal.

>> I have this in a little script called xtn which does this.

>> To generate ESC in bash use ^V^[   where '^' is holding down the control key.
>> ^G is done like wise. You will have to wrap the strings in quotes

>> e.g.  echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"

>> good luck. I've just done this in LXTerminal with bash as my shell.

> It doesn't seem to do much of anything in my case. Here's a transcript:
> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo $TERM
> xterm-256color
> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo -n "^[]0;"$1"^G"
> ^[]0;^Gbob@raspberrypi:~$ 
> bob@raspberrypi:~$

> I was hoping to see the title change, but no luck. As you might
> guess, my fluency with shells is abysmal. I use them only in a
> very simple-minded way, usually to type single commands.

Bob,

bp mentioned that he was using a script, and in his script $1 would be the
first argument to the script.

You were just typing that from the command line, where $1 is not what you want.

As has been pointed out (and "bravo"ed), there are less error-prone ways to
get the escape char out of the echo command, but assuming you know that to get
        ^[
you want to type
        Ctrl-V Escape
and that to get
        ^G
you want to type
        Ctrl-V Ctrl-G
then putting something useful in for $1 above might help:

echo -n "^[]0;Hello There^G"

Finally, if something in your default setup is resetting the tab/terminal
title to something else every time before the prompt is printed, try

echo -n "^[]0;Hello There^G" ; sleep 10

and see if you see "Hello There" for 10 seconds (+/-) after you hit Enter.

Cheers.
                                Jim

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#37767

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
> From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
> 
> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
> and hostname.
> 
> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
> which I'm unable to intuit.
> 
> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?

Does this set the window title:

$ export TITLE="hello world"
$ echo -en "\e]30;$TITLE\a"

bash should set the window title to the current command, using the same
escape sequence.  If it doesn't:

a) you aren't using bash. Maybe it needs to be enabled in your shell?

b) bash is not configured to set the title, I'm not sure where you'd find
that

c) your terminal is not advertising itself as a suitable type that uses the
escape code.  What's your TERM variable set to?

d) your terminal is choosing not to display it, for some reason (perhaps
the configuration you mention above)

Theo

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#37769

Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
> bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>> From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
>> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
>> 
>> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
>> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
>> and hostname.
>> 
>> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
>> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
>> which I'm unable to intuit.
>> 
>> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?
> 
> Does this set the window title:
> 
> $ export TITLE="hello world"
> $ echo -en "\e]30;$TITLE\a"
 
No. Neither does it trigger an error message....

> bash should set the window title to the current command, using the same
> escape sequence.  If it doesn't:
> 
> a) you aren't using bash. Maybe it needs to be enabled in your shell?
>
According to /etc/passwd, bash is my login shell, running 
bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo $TERM
xterm-256color

suggests that lxterm is a variant of xterm, which makes sense.


 
> b) bash is not configured to set the title, I'm not sure where you'd find
> that
> 
> c) your terminal is not advertising itself as a suitable type that uses the
> escape code.  What's your TERM variable set to?
>
 
As above, xterm-256color

> d) your terminal is choosing not to display it, for some reason (perhaps
> the configuration you mention above)
> 
The configuration file at ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf contains
quite a few entries, but none appears to be related to titles. The man
page for lxterminal doesn't give any useful hints. The config file
appears to be name=value format, Shift-ctrl-I brings up the dialog
to manually enter a title which is interpreted as a simple string.

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska

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#37771

On 19/02/2026 03:47, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>> bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>>>  From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
>>> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
>>>
>>> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
>>> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
>>> and hostname.
>>>
>>> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
>>> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
>>> which I'm unable to intuit.
>>>
>>> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?
>>
>> Does this set the window title:
>>
>> $ export TITLE="hello world"
>> $ echo -en "\e]30;$TITLE\a"
>   
> No. Neither does it trigger an error message....
> 
>> bash should set the window title to the current command, using the same
>> escape sequence.  If it doesn't:
>>
>> a) you aren't using bash. Maybe it needs to be enabled in your shell?
>>
> According to /etc/passwd, bash is my login shell, running
> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo $TERM
> xterm-256color
> 
> suggests that lxterm is a variant of xterm, which makes sense.
> 
> 
>   
>> b) bash is not configured to set the title, I'm not sure where you'd find
>> that
>>
>> c) your terminal is not advertising itself as a suitable type that uses the
>> escape code.  What's your TERM variable set to?
>>
>   
> As above, xterm-256color
> 
>> d) your terminal is choosing not to display it, for some reason (perhaps
>> the configuration you mention above)
>>
> The configuration file at ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf contains
> quite a few entries, but none appears to be related to titles. The man
> page for lxterminal doesn't give any useful hints. The config file
> appears to be name=value format, Shift-ctrl-I brings up the dialog
> to manually enter a title which is interpreted as a simple string.
> 


Does

echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"

work?

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#37774

Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> On 19/02/2026 03:47, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>> Theo <theom+news@chiark.greenend.org.uk> wrote:
>>> bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>>>>  From time to time I get badly confused about which terminal window does what.
>>>> This is on a Pi5 running bookworm, if it matters.
>>>>
>>>> One thing that would help is causing each lxterminl window or tab to display
>>>> the name of the command being run. In most cases that would be an ssh command
>>>> and hostname.
>>>>
>>>> Obviously, this can be done manually by using the Tabs > Name Tab menuu,
>>>> but it seems likely there'd be a setting in .config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf
>>>> which I'm unable to intuit.
>>>>
>>>> Does anyone know if this is true, and if so what syntax is required?
>>>
>>> Does this set the window title:
>>>
>>> $ export TITLE="hello world"
>>> $ echo -en "\e]30;$TITLE\a"
>>   
>> No. Neither does it trigger an error message....
>> 
>>> bash should set the window title to the current command, using the same
>>> escape sequence.  If it doesn't:
>>>
>>> a) you aren't using bash. Maybe it needs to be enabled in your shell?
>>>
>> According to /etc/passwd, bash is my login shell, running
>> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo $TERM
>> xterm-256color
>> 
>> suggests that lxterm is a variant of xterm, which makes sense.
>> 
>> 
>>   
>>> b) bash is not configured to set the title, I'm not sure where you'd find
>>> that
>>>
>>> c) your terminal is not advertising itself as a suitable type that uses the
>>> escape code.  What's your TERM variable set to?
>>>
>>   
>> As above, xterm-256color
>> 
>>> d) your terminal is choosing not to display it, for some reason (perhaps
>>> the configuration you mention above)
>>>
>> The configuration file at ~/.config/lxterminal/lxterminal.conf contains
>> quite a few entries, but none appears to be related to titles. The man
>> page for lxterminal doesn't give any useful hints. The config file
>> appears to be name=value format, Shift-ctrl-I brings up the dialog
>> to manually enter a title which is interpreted as a simple string.
>> 
> 
> 
> Does
> 
> echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"
> 
> work?

No, it doesn't do anything visible:

bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"
bob@raspberrypi:~$ 

so no output beyond the echoed input and no change in
the tab title. I rather wonder where the command output
went, since no error was reported.

If I'm missing something idiotic please point it out!

Thanks for writing,

bob prohaska

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#37777

On 19/02/2026 16:54, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
> Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:

>>
>> Does
>>
>> echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"
>>
>> work?
> 
> No, it doesn't do anything visible:
> 
> bob@raspberrypi:~$ echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"
> bob@raspberrypi:~$
> 
> so no output beyond the echoed input and no change in
> the tab title. I rather wonder where the command output
> went, since no error was reported.
> 
> If I'm missing something idiotic please point it out!
> 

Does your PS1 keep overwritting the window title?
Does the window title change if you, say, change directory?

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#37783

bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
> Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>> On 19/02/2026 03:47, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> Does
>> 
>> echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"
>> 
>> work?
> 
> No, it doesn't do anything visible:

Looks like I was mistaken. A simple copy and paste
of the lineabove changes the tab title to Hello World.

I'm not sure what's different now, it's the same Pi,
just a newly-created tab.

I'm also not sure I got the quotes right, apologies if things
are now mis-attributed. 

It seems the remaining puzzle is how to replace the string
Hello World with the name of the last-typed command...

Thanks for writing!

bob prohaska
  

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#37784

On 22/02/2026 00:21, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:

> 
> It seems the remaining puzzle is how to replace the string
> Hello World with the name of the last-typed command...
> 

I think this works ...

ESC=$(echo -en "\033")
BEL=$(echo -en "\007")

export HISTFILE=~./bash_history$(tty | sed "s,/,_,g")

export PS1='${ESC}]0;\
$(fc -ln -1 |\
tail -1 |\
sed "s/^[[:space:]]*//g")${BEL}\
${LOGNAME}@${HOSTNAME}:${PWD/$HOME/\~} $ '

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#37785

Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
> On 22/02/2026 00:21, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
> 
>> 
>> It seems the remaining puzzle is how to replace the string
>> Hello World with the name of the last-typed command...
>> 
> 
> I think this works ...
> 
> ESC=$(echo -en "\033")
> BEL=$(echo -en "\007")
> 
> export HISTFILE=~./bash_history$(tty | sed "s,/,_,g")
> 
> export PS1='${ESC}]0;\
> $(fc -ln -1 |\
> tail -1 |\
> sed "s/^[[:space:]]*//g")${BEL}\
> ${LOGNAME}@${HOSTNAME}:${PWD/$HOME/\~} $ '

I really owe everybody an apology here. I thought there'd
be some trivial way to auto-title lxterminal windows so 
they could be easily distinguished. Clearly there isn't
such a thing. The "name tab" option takes only a few seconds
and is probably the most efficient way to keep folks like me
from typing the wrong commands in the wrong window....

Thanks for everybody's help and patience!


bob prohaska

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#37786

On 23/02/2026 18:18, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
> I really owe everybody an apology here. I thought there'd
> be some trivial way to auto-title lxterminal windows so
> they could be easily distinguished. Clearly there isn't
> such a thing. The "name tab" option takes only a few seconds
> and is probably the most efficient way to keep folks like me
> from typing the wrong commands in the wrong window....

The problem is lxterminal is not as fully featured as the alternatives 
most people were probably using when they suggested the command 
sequences which work for them.

You might want to consider an alternative desktop with a different 
terminal program, MATE is almost as light weight as Pixel and runs very 
nicely on Pi4s and Pi5s.

---druck

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#37787

On 2026-02-23, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 23/02/2026 18:18, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>> I really owe everybody an apology here. I thought there'd
>> be some trivial way to auto-title lxterminal windows so
>> they could be easily distinguished. Clearly there isn't
>> such a thing. The "name tab" option takes only a few seconds
>> and is probably the most efficient way to keep folks like me
>> from typing the wrong commands in the wrong window....
>
> The problem is lxterminal is not as fully featured as the alternatives 
> most people were probably using when they suggested the command 
> sequences which work for them.
>
> You might want to consider an alternative desktop with a different 
> terminal program, MATE is almost as light weight as Pixel and runs very 
> nicely on Pi4s and Pi5s.

??? Why a differnet desktop. Just a different terminal emulator - or are 
modern Term. Emu's stupidly tied inextricably to a fixed set of other 
software that makes up a "desktop" whatever that is. I fired up 
lxterminal even though I'm not running lxde - it worked just fine. I've 
tried several others, all in my home made "desktop environment", they 
all worked.

A term. emu. is just a program for creating a window for running command 
line programs in.

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#37788

On 25/02/2026 19:45, Jim Jackson wrote:
> On 2026-02-23, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>> On 23/02/2026 18:18, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>> You might want to consider an alternative desktop with a different
>> terminal program, MATE is almost as light weight as Pixel and runs very
>> nicely on Pi4s and Pi5s.
> 
> ??? Why a differnet desktop. Just a different terminal emulator - or are
> modern Term. 
Depends whether you want your desktop to be consistent, or have half a 
dozen different types of menus and window furniture on the apps that you 
use.

---druck

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#37789

On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 20:42:05 +0000, druck wrote:

> On 25/02/2026 19:45, Jim Jackson wrote:
>>
>> ??? Why a differnet desktop. Just a different terminal emulator -
>> or are modern Term.
>>
> Depends whether you want your desktop to be consistent, or have half
> a dozen different types of menus and window furniture on the apps
> that you use.

Especially if you do this on the day your interior decorator comes to
visit ...

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#37793

On 2026-02-25, Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
> On Wed, 25 Feb 2026 20:42:05 +0000, druck wrote:
>
>> On 25/02/2026 19:45, Jim Jackson wrote:
>>>
>>> ??? Why a differnet desktop. Just a different terminal emulator -
>>> or are modern Term.
>>>
>> Depends whether you want your desktop to be consistent, or have half
>> a dozen different types of menus and window furniture on the apps
>> that you use.
>
> Especially if you do this on the day your interior decorator comes to
> visit ...

My interior decorator lives in the same house :-)

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#37792

On 2026-02-25, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
> On 25/02/2026 19:45, Jim Jackson wrote:
>> On 2026-02-23, druck <news@druck.org.uk> wrote:
>>> On 23/02/2026 18:18, bp@www.zefox.net wrote:
>>> You might want to consider an alternative desktop with a different
>>> terminal program, MATE is almost as light weight as Pixel and runs very
>>> nicely on Pi4s and Pi5s.
>> 
>> ??? Why a differnet desktop. Just a different terminal emulator - or are
>> modern Term. 
> Depends whether you want your desktop to be consistent, or have half a 
> dozen different types of menus and window furniture on the apps that you 
> use.
>

I thought your window manager dealt with window furniture. 

So which desktop environments are Firefox, GIMP, libreoffice etc etc 
meant to work with then? On my debian derived system, no matter what 
desktop system I'm running there's only one of each to install?

Sorry that argument does not run. But you can try and prove me wrong.

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#37775

On 2026-02-19, Richard Harnden <richard.nospam@gmail.invalid> wrote:
>
> Does
>
> echo -en "\033]0;Hello World\007"
>
> work?

Bravo. The simplest solution - all "normal" characters.

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