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| Started by | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| First post | 2026-03-12 16:41 +0000 |
| Last post | 2026-04-22 09:55 +0100 |
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Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-03-12 16:41 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 17:38 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-03-12 11:11 -0700
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-03-12 19:20 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> - 2026-03-12 12:54 -0700
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> - 2026-03-12 20:15 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:04 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-03-12 18:14 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> - 2026-03-12 18:34 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> - 2026-03-12 20:27 +0100
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> - 2026-03-18 14:50 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-12 19:12 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> - 2026-03-12 19:22 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> - 2026-03-12 22:31 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-03-13 11:03 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> - 2026-03-26 17:39 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> - 2026-03-26 17:56 +0000
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> - 2026-04-21 15:09 -0700
Re: Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> - 2026-04-22 09:55 +0100
| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 16:41 +0000 |
| Subject | Pi Zero 2W - which end is pin 1?????? |
| Message-ID | <ku6b8m-3ufs2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a layout diagram which shows me. Thank you. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 17:38 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10outmg$27f7l$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37815 |
On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote: > This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the > 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a > layout diagram which shows me. > > Thank you. > Try https://pinout.xyz/ -- Chris
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 11:11 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n1gdurFcjevU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37816 |
Chris Townley wrote: > Chris Green wrote: >> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of >> the 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct >> me to a layout diagram which shows me. > > Try https://pinout.xyz/ > Great site. Try this tidbit: > Pin 1 is the only pin with a square solder pad, which may only be > visible from the underside of your Pi. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 19:20 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <f9gb8m-uc1t2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #37817 |
Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote: > Chris Townley wrote: > > Chris Green wrote: > >> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of > >> the 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct > >> me to a layout diagram which shows me. > > > > Try https://pinout.xyz/ > > > Great site. > > Try this tidbit: > > Pin 1 is the only pin with a square solder pad, which may only be > > visible from the underside of your Pi. > Yes, that was the first thing I tried. My other Pis have a square pad but the Pi Zero 2W doesn't, so no help there. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 12:54 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <n1gjvaFdgcbU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37823 |
Chris Green wrote: > Mike Easter >>> Chris Green wrote: >>>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of >>>> the 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct >>>> me to a layout diagram which shows me. >> >> Try this tidbit: >>> Pin 1 is the only pin with a square solder pad, which may only be >>> visible from the underside of your Pi. >> > Yes, that was the first thing I tried. My other Pis have a square pad > but the Pi Zero 2W doesn't, so no help there. > Hmmm. All the pix I see for the Pi Zero 2W are square pin 1, at least on one side. -- Mike Easter
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| From | Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 20:15 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ov6tc$2bt5g$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37823 |
On 12/03/2026 19:20, Chris Green wrote: > Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote: >> Chris Townley wrote: >>> Chris Green wrote: >>>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of >>>> the 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct >>>> me to a layout diagram which shows me. >>> >>> Try https://pinout.xyz/ >>> >> Great site. >> >> Try this tidbit: >>> Pin 1 is the only pin with a square solder pad, which may only be >>> visible from the underside of your Pi. >> > Yes, that was the first thing I tried. My other Pis have a square pad > but the Pi Zero 2W doesn't, so no help there. > That site includes a graphic showing the orientation -- Chris
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-13 11:04 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10p0r01$30rut$9@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37823 |
On 12/03/2026 19:20, Chris Green wrote: > Mike Easter <MikeE@ster.invalid> wrote: >> Chris Townley wrote: >>> Chris Green wrote: >>>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of >>>> the 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct >>>> me to a layout diagram which shows me. >>> >>> Try https://pinout.xyz/ >>> >> Great site. >> >> Try this tidbit: >>> Pin 1 is the only pin with a square solder pad, which may only be >>> visible from the underside of your Pi. >> > Yes, that was the first thing I tried. My other Pis have a square pad > but the Pi Zero 2W doesn't, so no help there. > Really? I haven't uses a 2 W yet, only the W... But they are supposed to be pin compatible -- “People believe certain stories because everyone important tells them, and people tell those stories because everyone important believes them. Indeed, when a conventional wisdom is at its fullest strength, one’s agreement with that conventional wisdom becomes almost a litmus test of one’s suitability to be taken seriously.” Paul Krugman
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 18:14 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <6dcb8m-g7qs2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #37816 |
Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote: > On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote: > > This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the > > 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a > > layout diagram which shows me. > > > > Thank you. > > > > Try https://pinout.xyz/ > How does that help? Oh, am I supposed to work it out from that inset diagram below the main one? If so it's too small to be sure on my laptop screen. -- Chris Green ·
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| From | mm0fmf <none@invalid.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 18:34 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ov0vs$28rrh$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37818 |
On 12/03/2026 18:14, Chris Green wrote: > Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote: >> On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote: >>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the >>> 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a >>> layout diagram which shows me. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >> >> Try https://pinout.xyz/ >> > How does that help? > > Oh, am I supposed to work it out from that inset diagram below the > main one? If so it's too small to be sure on my laptop screen. > Facepalm!
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| From | "R.Wieser" <address@is.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 20:27 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10ov440$2air7$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37818 |
Chris, >> Try https://pinout.xyz/ >> > How does that help? If nothing else, you *could* have concluded from that reply that googeling for it yourself could give you what you are after. > Oh, am I supposed to work it out from that inset diagram below > the main one? What ? From the "Legend" just below it with the text, "A+", "Zero: and "B+" in *big* letters in the graphic to its right ? Yes, from that one. Hint : notice the colors of the pins in both the pinout section and the image in the legend below it. > If so it's too small to be sure on my laptop screen. That sounds like a "you" problem. Maybe you should find out how you can "zoom in" with your browser (in my FireFox its ctrl + ). Or use a software or even a hardware magnifying glass (the former is build into Win11). Heck, you could even take a screenshot, dump it in some image-editing program (paint?) and use its magnifying capabilities. But no, instead of saying "thank you" you are whining about how it doesn't work for you, because you have next-to-zero idea about how your browser or google works. Regards, Rudy Wieser
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| From | Brian Gregory <void-invalid-dead-dontuse@email.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-18 14:50 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <n1vse6FpjhiU1@mid.individual.net> |
| In reply to | #37818 |
On 12/03/2026 18:14, Chris Green wrote: > Chris Townley <news@cct-net.co.uk> wrote: >> On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote: >>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the >>> 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a >>> layout diagram which shows me. >>> >>> Thank you. >>> >> >> Try https://pinout.xyz/ >> > How does that help? > > Oh, am I supposed to work it out from that inset diagram below the > main one? If so it's too small to be sure on my laptop screen. > https://pico2.pinout.xyz/ -- Brian Gregory (in England).
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 19:12 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10ov36t$296s5$5@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37815 |
On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote: > This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the > 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a > layout diagram which shows me. > > Thank you. > LOL! It's in there buried at the bottom of the documentation This is a handy thing to print out https://i.sstatic.net/yHddo.png -- "When a true genius appears in the world, you may know him by this sign, that the dunces are all in confederacy against him." Jonathan Swift.
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| From | Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 19:22 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <adgb8m-uc1t2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu> |
| In reply to | #37820 |
The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote: > On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote: > > This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the > > 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a > > layout diagram which shows me. > > > > Thank you. > > > > LOL! > > It's in there buried at the bottom of the documentation > > This is a handy thing to print out > > https://i.sstatic.net/yHddo.png > Yes, **that** is what I wanted, thank you! :-) -- Chris Green ·
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| From | David Higton <dave@davehigton.me.uk> |
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| Date | 2026-03-12 22:31 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <37e59db85c.DaveMeUK@BeagleBoard-xM> |
| In reply to | #37822 |
In message <adgb8m-uc1t2.ln1@q957.zbmc.eu>
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
> > On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote:
> > > This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the
> > > 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a
> > > layout diagram which shows me.
> > >
> > > Thank you.
> > >
> >
> > LOL!
> >
> > It's in there buried at the bottom of the documentation
> >
> > This is a handy thing to print out
> >
> > https://i.sstatic.net/yHddo.png
> >
> Yes, **that** is what I wanted, thank you! :-)
Also note that the rectangular legend around the connecter has one mitred
corner; this has been a standard way to denote pin 1 for decades in the
electronics indstry.
David
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-03-13 11:03 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10p0qtc$30rut$8@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37822 |
On 12/03/2026 19:22, Chris Green wrote:
> The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> wrote:
>> On 12/03/2026 16:41, Chris Green wrote:
>>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the
>>> 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a
>>> layout diagram which shows me.
>>>
>>> Thank you.
>>>
>>
>> LOL!
>>
>> It's in there buried at the bottom of the documentation
>>
>> This is a handy thing to print out
>>
>> https://i.sstatic.net/yHddo.png
>>
> Yes, **that** is what I wanted, thank you! :-)
>
I've been there etc.
There is a copious amount of online literature on this. The puzzle is
why you couldn't find it yourself...
--
"Strange as it seems, no amount of learning can cure stupidity, and
higher education positively fortifies it."
- Stephen Vizinczey
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| From | Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-26 17:39 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10q3r10$31oo5$1@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37815 |
Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: > This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the > 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a > layout diagram which shows me. If only there was an FM... https://pip-assets.raspberrypi.com/categories/1088-raspberry-pi-pico-2-w/documents/RP-008304-DS-2-pico-2-w-datasheet.pdf page 5.
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| From | Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> |
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| Date | 2026-03-26 17:56 +0000 |
| Message-ID | <10q3s0b$31oo5$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37901 |
Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> wrote: > Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: >> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the >> 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a >> layout diagram which shows me. > > If only there was an FM... > https://pip-assets.raspberrypi.com/categories/1088-raspberry-pi-pico-2-w/documents/RP-008304-DS-2-pico-2-w-datasheet.pdf > > page 5. sigh...wrong Pi flavor...on second pass, the Zero(2W) documentation is sorely lacking, but it follows the convention of 1 being at the end with the SD card slot. Square hole, like others have said.
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| From | Daniel <me@sc1f1dan.com> |
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| Date | 2026-04-21 15:09 -0700 |
| Message-ID | <87v7dk2cfi.fsf@rpi3> |
| In reply to | #37901 |
Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> writes: > Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: >> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the >> 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a >> layout diagram which shows me. > > If only there was an FM... > https://pip-assets.raspberrypi.com/categories/1088-raspberry-pi-pico-2-w/documents/RP-008304-DS-2-pico-2-w-datasheet.pdf > > page 5. I bought some hardware yesterday, being shipped, a GPIO extender for my pi500. Anyway, I also included a gpio guide for $2. If you go to pishop and zoom in on the item, you may get enough detail to know which pin is 1 That's the best I can come up with.
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| From | The Natural Philosopher <tnp@invalid.invalid> |
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| Date | 2026-04-22 09:55 +0100 |
| Message-ID | <10sa2df$24a8s$2@dont-email.me> |
| In reply to | #37927 |
On 21/04/2026 23:09, Daniel wrote: > Sam Thomas <sam@noneya.com> writes: > >> Chris Green <cl@isbd.net> wrote: >>> This is ridiculous, I can find nowhere that tells me which end of the >>> 40-pin header is pin 1. Can someone tell me please, or direct me to a >>> layout diagram which shows me. >> >> If only there was an FM... >> https://pip-assets.raspberrypi.com/categories/1088-raspberry-pi-pico-2-w/documents/RP-008304-DS-2-pico-2-w-datasheet.pdf >> >> page 5. > > I bought some hardware yesterday, being shipped, a GPIO extender for my > pi500. Anyway, I also included a gpio guide for $2. If you go to pishop > and zoom in on the item, you may get enough detail to know which pin is > 1 > > That's the best I can come up with. I think we answered this several weeks ago? -- The higher up the mountainside The greener grows the grass. The higher up the monkey climbs The more he shows his arse. Traditional
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